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Nevilledog

(51,186 posts)
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 10:30 PM Aug 2022

Trump Reportedly Took Documents That 'Didn't Come From Trump's Time in the White House'





https://www.politicalflare.com/2022/08/trump-reportedly-took-documents-that-didnt-come-from-trumps-time-in-the-white-house/


*snip*


Further in the article, there was a rather innocuous line that I haven’t seen reported much. It was in regards to when NARA started to look through the boxes taken from Trump. The Washington Post reported, “Instead, when Archives employees began opening up and sifting through the material, they noticed an immediate problem. The boxes arrived without any kind of logs or inventories to describe their content, according to a person familiar with the recovery. Instead, they contained a hodgepodge of documents, including some that didn’t even come from Trump’s time in the White House.”

Did you catch that last part?

“Instead, they contained a hodgepodge of documents, including some that didn’t even come from Trump’s time in the White House.”

What in the world is Trump doing with classified documents from an earlier administration? Were those from Obama? Bush? I have a strong feeling it’s Obama, and I can only imagine why. Trump had such a deep-seated hatred for Obama, I can see him stealing documents that he thought would incriminate or cause trouble for Obama.

Or could he have taken older documents that were concerning things he did in the past?

We will probably never know, since the documents were classified and by the time they are declassified we will probably all be gone. But it’s frightening to think of what Trump was planning, since we know he’s a sociopath who wouldn’t stop at anything to gain power and money.

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Trump Reportedly Took Documents That 'Didn't Come From Trump's Time in the White House' (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2022 OP
Time for Grabby McGrabberton to get his grabby little hands slapped. tanyev Aug 2022 #1
I'm all for having them chopped off. Prof. Toru Tanaka Aug 2022 #44
Trump would steal documents to damage his opponents, especially if he was jealous of them. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #2
Trump has actual pictures of Obama grabbing a smoke on top of the WH. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #4
While wearing a tan suit. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2022 #7
Listening to some Marvin Gaye on his hi-tech ear buds. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #12
After a meal of radicchio or what was it? 🤔 sprinkleeninow Aug 2022 #22
A hot dog with Dijon mustard! NullTuples Aug 2022 #23
Yah, Dijon! sprinkleeninow Aug 2022 #27
Maybe a hot dog with Dijon mustard. wnylib Aug 2022 #26
And not wearing his flag lapel pin. Alwaysna Aug 2022 #53
Oh, the unpatriotic horror! wnylib Aug 2022 #61
What, no ketchup? SergeStorms Aug 2022 #70
A Guy From Chicago? ProfessorGAC Aug 2022 #71
Not for a sophisticated Dem from Chicago. wnylib Aug 2022 #72
That is it! True Blue American Aug 2022 #69
👍 Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #20
I'm betting some of those prior administration documents had to do the Kennedy assassination.... Sogo Aug 2022 #3
I thought that right away. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #9
I was a little kid when Kennedy assassinated and mchill Aug 2022 #14
I was 14 and I had a similar perspective. wnylib Aug 2022 #28
Is the National Enquirer still paying big bucks for that? halfulglas Aug 2022 #42
Kinda bizarre though, right? His whole 2016 campaign was about Hilary's emails - Lock Her Up! OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #15
Oswald shot him. End of story. oldsoftie Aug 2022 #60
I am thinking about 9/11 LiberalArkie Aug 2022 #75
My guess... Cracklin Charlie Aug 2022 #5
Whatever he took, he did it because it either helped him or hurt somebody he hated calimary Aug 2022 #39
he was getting help. flynn would know where a lot of bodies were buried. mopinko Aug 2022 #6
Also came in uninvited at the end. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2022 #8
yup. and left moles everywhere, mopinko Aug 2022 #11
Bet on it. crickets Aug 2022 #13
👍 Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #21
That's a good call. 2naSalit Aug 2022 #43
Recommended. H2O Man Aug 2022 #10
That's what I thought of, too. wnylib Aug 2022 #34
Yes, my imagination took off when I read the post, but this take sounds spot on. mjvpi Aug 2022 #65
Death by a Thousand Cuts...... OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #16
Krivov, Karlov, Polshikov, Erovinkin, Malanin, Churkin, Gorokhov, Voronenkov Recursion Aug 2022 #17
👍 Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #24
Damn. I remember that. crickets Aug 2022 #31
A Russian doctor fell out of a window *during a conference call* on Covid Recursion Aug 2022 #77
Yup. 2naSalit Aug 2022 #45
A series of unfortunate events is no accident. Kid Berwyn Aug 2022 #51
👆👆 crickets Aug 2022 #63
How that moment didn't end TFG's presidency is beyond me Recursion Aug 2022 #76
It gets worse and worse. Guy's totally corrupt. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #18
Everyday it gets a little worse for Trump. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #25
The article doesn't say those were records from a prior administration onenote Aug 2022 #19
I read it that way, too. marybourg Aug 2022 #38
Yes, ShazzieB Aug 2022 #47
Nor does it say that those docuents were among those that are classified Tom Rinaldo Aug 2022 #49
+100 nt reACTIONary Aug 2022 #67
Why does it matter? Aussie105 Aug 2022 #29
I think it matters bc ** claims they were HIS docs. But certainly the ones prior to him weren't. live love laugh Aug 2022 #36
Again, not clear from the statement that the documents referred to are from a prior administration onenote Aug 2022 #40
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Aug 2022 #30
K n R ! Thanks for posting! JoeOtterbein Aug 2022 #32
Gen Z has something to look forward to Warpy Aug 2022 #33
I remember the bad rumors about Nixon during his re-election campaign. raging moderate Aug 2022 #37
As long as it isolates him and keeps him busy trying to stay out of prison Warpy Aug 2022 #41
He did say "What about Obama?" C Moon Aug 2022 #35
Why is he still free? Solly Mack Aug 2022 #46
He is a greased pig. CentralMass Aug 2022 #52
It is past time to restore the 'dungeons' at Alcatraz for housing the traitor. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #48
Oh I prefer GITMO for him ,but I'm not picky. flying_wahini Aug 2022 #68
I suggested this a couple of weeks ago catchnrelease Aug 2022 #74
Odd interest for a guy who hates to read. Kid Berwyn Aug 2022 #50
Who is going to read & explain these documents to him? Alwaysna Aug 2022 #54
Obama for sure, maybe others. Likely scrounging for anything to do with what intel allegorical oracle Aug 2022 #55
What if you let a mob boss have access to all the law enforcement information in the country? gulliver Aug 2022 #56
Blast from the past Nevilledog Aug 2022 #57
How else can he support his failing company, flea markets of sensitive docs for sale. Pepsidog Aug 2022 #58
This pretty much confirms he didn't take them as souvenirs jmowreader Aug 2022 #59
Who could have allowed this? DeeDeeNY Aug 2022 #62
..and still not under arrest! Brainfodder Aug 2022 #64
I would like to believe Obama had info about Trump. jaxexpat Aug 2022 #66
How much more of this shit do we have to swallow ? Haggis 4 Breakfast Aug 2022 #73

Irish_Dem

(47,334 posts)
2. Trump would steal documents to damage his opponents, especially if he was jealous of them.
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 10:41 PM
Aug 2022

I hope Obama is being informed of any pertinent information.

wnylib

(21,586 posts)
72. Not for a sophisticated Dem from Chicago.
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 07:51 PM
Aug 2022

That was the whole issue about the Dijon mustard "scandal." Obama's campaign people feared that his Dijon mustard request at a public appearance was too elite and not populist enough. Obama said that he would be himself and could connect better that way by being authentic instead of packaged.

Sogo

(4,992 posts)
3. I'm betting some of those prior administration documents had to do the Kennedy assassination....
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 10:45 PM
Aug 2022

It would be just like Trump to want to be one of the only ones who knows the intelligence about that.

Irish_Dem

(47,334 posts)
9. I thought that right away.
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 10:58 PM
Aug 2022

Wants info on Kennedy's death. Anything event with intense historical speculation.

Or tabloid type interest. Stuff like UFO's.

Anything he can brag about to his MAL guests and friends.

mchill

(1,018 posts)
14. I was a little kid when Kennedy assassinated and
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 11:05 PM
Aug 2022

I’ll never forget they were sealing many documents on this topic for 75 years, to be put in the Archives. Nobody would have access, period. That should be 2038. Perhaps they are just photos, but it always felt like something more to do with who what why and the country could not take the news. Mind you, a 10 year-old’s perspective.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
42. Is the National Enquirer still paying big bucks for that?
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 12:47 AM
Aug 2022

Maybe they got pics of Alien Babies from Area 57.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,570 posts)
15. Kinda bizarre though, right? His whole 2016 campaign was about Hilary's emails - Lock Her Up!
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 11:06 PM
Aug 2022

Yet he seemly forgets about that core issue and plunders the US Intelligence files like a kid in a candy store...

calimary

(81,441 posts)
39. Whatever he took, he did it because it either helped him or hurt somebody he hated
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 12:35 AM
Aug 2022

or felt threatened by.

mopinko

(70,202 posts)
6. he was getting help. flynn would know where a lot of bodies were buried.
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 10:55 PM
Aug 2022

and i'd guess he was a busy lil bees during his short tenure.

mopinko

(70,202 posts)
11. yup. and left moles everywhere,
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 11:01 PM
Aug 2022

i'm lookin at you kash patel, and the rest of the moles that got crammed in while the biden team was iced out. and i aint blinkin.

crickets

(25,982 posts)
13. Bet on it.
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 11:03 PM
Aug 2022

I doubt Flynn was the only little helper he had. Doubtless tfg was looking for dirt on Obama and Biden for personal reasons, but if he had people looking through everything, going back who knows how far...

It sounds like the research project from hell, perhaps an assignment directly from Putin himself.

Oh, please let's not bother just throwing the book at him. Throw the entire National Archives and the Library of Congress at his pointy bald head. This man is so evil, it's hard to wrap my mind around it.

H2O Man

(73,594 posts)
10. Recommended.
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 10:58 PM
Aug 2022

I heard that last night. I think he took things about the investigation of his 2016 campaign's ties to Russian military intelligence. Lots of other things, too, of course. But that was what Patel was threatening to publish. Sources and methods, right there.

wnylib

(21,586 posts)
34. That's what I thought of, too.
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 12:17 AM
Aug 2022

Intel from before his administration would likely be anything about his Russian connections during the 2016 campaign.

mjvpi

(1,389 posts)
65. Yes, my imagination took off when I read the post, but this take sounds spot on.
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 03:57 PM
Aug 2022

This is the shit that ate his lunch.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
17. Krivov, Karlov, Polshikov, Erovinkin, Malanin, Churkin, Gorokhov, Voronenkov
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 11:20 PM
Aug 2022

All Russian diplomats. All killed within a 3 month period after Trump took office. Some fell out of windows. Some "shot themselves" while tied up with a pillowcase over their heads.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
77. A Russian doctor fell out of a window *during a conference call* on Covid
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 11:48 PM
Aug 2022

early in the pandemic. Russian windows are apex predators.

Kid Berwyn

(14,951 posts)
51. A series of unfortunate events is no accident.
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 08:22 AM
Aug 2022
Exclusive: US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017

by Jim Sciutto
CNN, Sept. 9, 2019

In a previously undisclosed secret mission in 2017, the United States successfully extracted from Russia one of its highest-level covert sources inside the Russian government, multiple Trump administration officials with direct knowledge told CNN.

A person directly involved in the discussions said that the removal of the Russian was driven, in part, by concerns that President Donald Trump and his administration repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy.

The decision to carry out the extraction occurred soon after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office in which Trump discussed highly classified intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. The intelligence, concerning ISIS in Syria, had been provided by Israel.

The disclosure to the Russians by the President, though not about the Russian spy specifically, prompted intelligence officials to renew earlier discussions about the potential risk of exposure, according to the source directly involved in the matter.

At the time, then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo told other senior Trump administration officials that too much information was coming out regarding the covert source, known as an asset. An extraction, or “exfiltration” as such an operation is referred to by intelligence officials, is an extraordinary remedy when US intelligence believes an asset is in immediate danger.

The source was considered the highest level source for the US inside the Kremlin, high up in the national security infrastructure, according to the source familiar with the matter and a former senior intelligence official.

According to CNN’s sources, the spy had access to Putin and could even provide images of documents on the Russian leader’s desk.

Continues…

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
76. How that moment didn't end TFG's presidency is beyond me
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 11:46 PM
Aug 2022

Though there's no shortage of moments like that. Another classic was "I didn't say Israel! They all said I said it but I didn't!" while Netanyahu looks on appalled.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,570 posts)
25. Everyday it gets a little worse for Trump.
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 11:39 PM
Aug 2022

A new line of inquiry into obstruction of justice....or espionage...or whatever this walking wannabe mob-boss gets tied to.

onenote

(42,749 posts)
19. The article doesn't say those were records from a prior administration
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 11:34 PM
Aug 2022

I read it as suggesting that some of Trump's personal documents from before his election were tossed in the boxes along with presidential records.

ShazzieB

(16,497 posts)
47. Yes,
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 01:06 AM
Aug 2022

I read somewhere that the contents of the first 15 boxes he returned to the NARA were a complete hodgepodge, classified documents randomly mixed with other papers, no organization or anything.

I can't recall where I read that at the moment. If I remember, I'll edit this post ot add a link.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
49. Nor does it say that those docuents were among those that are classified
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 07:15 AM
Aug 2022

Not all of the government documents that Trump carried off illegally were classified. It is left unclear by that text.

Aussie105

(5,429 posts)
29. Why does it matter?
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 11:46 PM
Aug 2022

TFG had no legal right to take any documents with him once he was demoted out of the White House.

If those documents were from his administration it's no less of a crime than if they were from a previous one.

He simply took stuff that he thought he could monetise later.

Intelligent minds need to analyse what implications Trump's theft of classified documents has, and will have.

onenote

(42,749 posts)
40. Again, not clear from the statement that the documents referred to are from a prior administration
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 12:38 AM
Aug 2022

They could be referring--and I wouldn't be at all surprised--to documents that were created by or for Trump prior to his election. Might be nothing more than some of his golf scorecards, given how sloppily the boxing up of documents was handled.

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
33. Gen Z has something to look forward to
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 12:09 AM
Aug 2022

We got to see a lot of Nixon's garbage exposed, something we all knew at the time but couldn't prove. Well, it's been proven: he was scum. Gen Z will see this piece of traitorous shit exposed, but probably no surprises for them, either.

You just klnow he was convinced Obama's Kenyan birth certificate was in there.

The most dangerous people in the world are fools who believe their own bullshit.

raging moderate

(4,308 posts)
37. I remember the bad rumors about Nixon during his re-election campaign.
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 12:27 AM
Aug 2022

Nixon supporters (with the help of some news organizations) managed to downplay those rumors. Then, early in the second Nixon administration, most of those rumors turned out to be true. I hope we can manage to avoid a similar fiasco. I do see some encouraging signs that justice may prevail this time. I hope so, because it seems worse this time.

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
41. As long as it isolates him and keeps him busy trying to stay out of prison
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 12:44 AM
Aug 2022

it will be good.

I was in Boston reading the muckraking tabloid press in town. It was amazing what they got right. Right in the middle of it, I spent a year and a half in DC, where I got to get passive aggressive over part of his enemies list. Couldn't find a thing, honestly.

C Moon

(12,221 posts)
35. He did say "What about Obama?"
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 12:20 AM
Aug 2022

Maybe he was going to try to make it look like President Obama stole documents, too.

catchnrelease

(1,945 posts)
74. I suggested this a couple of weeks ago
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 08:35 PM
Aug 2022

Call it The Presidential Suite--let him think it's a special place for the greatest (traitor) president in the history of the US!!! Then throw away the key.

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
55. Obama for sure, maybe others. Likely scrounging for anything to do with what intel
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 10:47 AM
Aug 2022

was filed on his activities in Russia.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
56. What if you let a mob boss have access to all the law enforcement information in the country?
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 11:01 AM
Aug 2022

He'd go in to try to find out what law enforcement has on him, how close they were to getting him, who he could drag into the mud or blackmail for leverage, who the witnesses were against him...

Nevilledog

(51,186 posts)
57. Blast from the past
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 12:17 PM
Aug 2022


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jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
59. This pretty much confirms he didn't take them as souvenirs
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 01:10 PM
Aug 2022

Most of the stuff the Russians would want to know was created before Trump was president. Trump defunded the whole government to pay for his vanity projects and his agent meetings at golf courses, so the big agencies really didn’t have the money for original research.

DeeDeeNY

(3,356 posts)
62. Who could have allowed this?
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 02:33 PM
Aug 2022

How was he allowed to take any documents at all, let alone from previous administrations??

jaxexpat

(6,844 posts)
66. I would like to believe Obama had info about Trump.
Sun Aug 28, 2022, 04:41 PM
Aug 2022

It would be prudent for a president to anticipate a traitor. It would be on Trump's "my secret stuff" list.

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