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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump Reportedly Took Documents That 'Didn't Come From Trump's Time in the White House'
Link to tweet
https://www.politicalflare.com/2022/08/trump-reportedly-took-documents-that-didnt-come-from-trumps-time-in-the-white-house/
*snip*
Further in the article, there was a rather innocuous line that I havent seen reported much. It was in regards to when NARA started to look through the boxes taken from Trump. The Washington Post reported, Instead, when Archives employees began opening up and sifting through the material, they noticed an immediate problem. The boxes arrived without any kind of logs or inventories to describe their content, according to a person familiar with the recovery. Instead, they contained a hodgepodge of documents, including some that didnt even come from Trumps time in the White House.
Did you catch that last part?
Instead, they contained a hodgepodge of documents, including some that didnt even come from Trumps time in the White House.
What in the world is Trump doing with classified documents from an earlier administration? Were those from Obama? Bush? I have a strong feeling its Obama, and I can only imagine why. Trump had such a deep-seated hatred for Obama, I can see him stealing documents that he thought would incriminate or cause trouble for Obama.
Or could he have taken older documents that were concerning things he did in the past?
We will probably never know, since the documents were classified and by the time they are declassified we will probably all be gone. But its frightening to think of what Trump was planning, since we know hes a sociopath who wouldnt stop at anything to gain power and money.
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tanyev
(42,603 posts)Prof. Toru Tanaka
(1,980 posts)And they can send him to Saudi Arabia to do it.
Irish_Dem
(47,334 posts)I hope Obama is being informed of any pertinent information.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,570 posts)Kompromat!
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,570 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,254 posts)Arugula?
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)(though he actually asked for spicy brown first)
sprinkleeninow
(20,254 posts)wnylib
(21,586 posts)Alwaysna
(574 posts)wnylib
(21,586 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)Or as elitist southern republicans say, catsup?
ProfessorGAC
(65,159 posts)Ketchup on a hot dog is heresy around these parts!
wnylib
(21,586 posts)That was the whole issue about the Dijon mustard "scandal." Obama's campaign people feared that his Dijon mustard request at a public appearance was too elite and not populist enough. Obama said that he would be himself and could connect better that way by being authentic instead of packaged.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,452 posts)Sogo
(4,992 posts)It would be just like Trump to want to be one of the only ones who knows the intelligence about that.
Irish_Dem
(47,334 posts)Wants info on Kennedy's death. Anything event with intense historical speculation.
Or tabloid type interest. Stuff like UFO's.
Anything he can brag about to his MAL guests and friends.
mchill
(1,018 posts)Ill never forget they were sealing many documents on this topic for 75 years, to be put in the Archives. Nobody would have access, period. That should be 2038. Perhaps they are just photos, but it always felt like something more to do with who what why and the country could not take the news. Mind you, a 10 year-olds perspective.
wnylib
(21,586 posts)halfulglas
(1,654 posts)Maybe they got pics of Alien Babies from Area 57.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,570 posts)Yet he seemly forgets about that core issue and plunders the US Intelligence files like a kid in a candy store...
oldsoftie
(12,587 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,728 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)He took everything with his name on it. And then some
calimary
(81,441 posts)or felt threatened by.
mopinko
(70,202 posts)and i'd guess he was a busy lil bees during his short tenure.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Secretly.
mopinko
(70,202 posts)i'm lookin at you kash patel, and the rest of the moles that got crammed in while the biden team was iced out. and i aint blinkin.
crickets
(25,982 posts)I doubt Flynn was the only little helper he had. Doubtless tfg was looking for dirt on Obama and Biden for personal reasons, but if he had people looking through everything, going back who knows how far...
It sounds like the research project from hell, perhaps an assignment directly from Putin himself.
Oh, please let's not bother just throwing the book at him. Throw the entire National Archives and the Library of Congress at his pointy bald head. This man is so evil, it's hard to wrap my mind around it.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)Flynn has been dirty for a long time.
H2O Man
(73,594 posts)I heard that last night. I think he took things about the investigation of his 2016 campaign's ties to Russian military intelligence. Lots of other things, too, of course. But that was what Patel was threatening to publish. Sources and methods, right there.
wnylib
(21,586 posts)Intel from before his administration would likely be anything about his Russian connections during the 2016 campaign.
mjvpi
(1,389 posts)This is the shit that ate his lunch.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,570 posts)Trump's legal life and his MAGA Fan Club....wait 3 months.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)All Russian diplomats. All killed within a 3 month period after Trump took office. Some fell out of windows. Some "shot themselves" while tied up with a pillowcase over their heads.
Joinfortmill
(14,452 posts)crickets
(25,982 posts)So many people were "falling" out of windows, it was strange. *sigh*
Recursion
(56,582 posts)early in the pandemic. Russian windows are apex predators.
Kid Berwyn
(14,951 posts)by Jim Sciutto
CNN, Sept. 9, 2019
In a previously undisclosed secret mission in 2017, the United States successfully extracted from Russia one of its highest-level covert sources inside the Russian government, multiple Trump administration officials with direct knowledge told CNN.
A person directly involved in the discussions said that the removal of the Russian was driven, in part, by concerns that President Donald Trump and his administration repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy.
The decision to carry out the extraction occurred soon after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office in which Trump discussed highly classified intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. The intelligence, concerning ISIS in Syria, had been provided by Israel.
The disclosure to the Russians by the President, though not about the Russian spy specifically, prompted intelligence officials to renew earlier discussions about the potential risk of exposure, according to the source directly involved in the matter.
At the time, then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo told other senior Trump administration officials that too much information was coming out regarding the covert source, known as an asset. An extraction, or exfiltration as such an operation is referred to by intelligence officials, is an extraordinary remedy when US intelligence believes an asset is in immediate danger.
The source was considered the highest level source for the US inside the Kremlin, high up in the national security infrastructure, according to the source familiar with the matter and a former senior intelligence official.
According to CNNs sources, the spy had access to Putin and could even provide images of documents on the Russian leaders desk.
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Though there's no shortage of moments like that. Another classic was "I didn't say Israel! They all said I said it but I didn't!" while Netanyahu looks on appalled.
Joinfortmill
(14,452 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,570 posts)A new line of inquiry into obstruction of justice....or espionage...or whatever this walking wannabe mob-boss gets tied to.
onenote
(42,749 posts)I read it as suggesting that some of Trump's personal documents from before his election were tossed in the boxes along with presidential records.
marybourg
(12,634 posts)I read somewhere that the contents of the first 15 boxes he returned to the NARA were a complete hodgepodge, classified documents randomly mixed with other papers, no organization or anything.
I can't recall where I read that at the moment. If I remember, I'll edit this post ot add a link.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)Not all of the government documents that Trump carried off illegally were classified. It is left unclear by that text.
reACTIONary
(5,771 posts)Aussie105
(5,429 posts)TFG had no legal right to take any documents with him once he was demoted out of the White House.
If those documents were from his administration it's no less of a crime than if they were from a previous one.
He simply took stuff that he thought he could monetise later.
Intelligent minds need to analyse what implications Trump's theft of classified documents has, and will have.
live love laugh
(13,124 posts)onenote
(42,749 posts)They could be referring--and I wouldn't be at all surprised--to documents that were created by or for Trump prior to his election. Might be nothing more than some of his golf scorecards, given how sloppily the boxing up of documents was handled.
SunSeeker
(51,664 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)More important news!
Warpy
(111,332 posts)We got to see a lot of Nixon's garbage exposed, something we all knew at the time but couldn't prove. Well, it's been proven: he was scum. Gen Z will see this piece of traitorous shit exposed, but probably no surprises for them, either.
You just klnow he was convinced Obama's Kenyan birth certificate was in there.
The most dangerous people in the world are fools who believe their own bullshit.
raging moderate
(4,308 posts)Nixon supporters (with the help of some news organizations) managed to downplay those rumors. Then, early in the second Nixon administration, most of those rumors turned out to be true. I hope we can manage to avoid a similar fiasco. I do see some encouraging signs that justice may prevail this time. I hope so, because it seems worse this time.
Warpy
(111,332 posts)it will be good.
I was in Boston reading the muckraking tabloid press in town. It was amazing what they got right. Right in the middle of it, I spent a year and a half in DC, where I got to get passive aggressive over part of his enemies list. Couldn't find a thing, honestly.
C Moon
(12,221 posts)Maybe he was going to try to make it look like President Obama stole documents, too.
Solly Mack
(90,780 posts)I know, I know.
Still. Damn.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,409 posts)flying_wahini
(6,643 posts)catchnrelease
(1,945 posts)Call it The Presidential Suite--let him think it's a special place for the greatest (traitor) president in the history of the US!!! Then throw away the key.
Kid Berwyn
(14,951 posts)Souvenir hunter.
Suuuuure.
Alwaysna
(574 posts)allegorical oracle
(2,357 posts)was filed on his activities in Russia.
gulliver
(13,186 posts)He'd go in to try to find out what law enforcement has on him, how close they were to getting him, who he could drag into the mud or blackmail for leverage, who the witnesses were against him...
Nevilledog
(51,186 posts)Link to tweet
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Do take a moment to watch this one and the next in the thread.
Old enough to remember when this actually happened
Seth Hettena
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Sammy "The Bull" Gravano, Mafia underboss who confessed to 19 murders, explains in 1993 how he would "reach" Donald Trump.
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Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Most of the stuff the Russians would want to know was created before Trump was president. Trump defunded the whole government to pay for his vanity projects and his agent meetings at golf courses, so the big agencies really didnt have the money for original research.
DeeDeeNY
(3,356 posts)How was he allowed to take any documents at all, let alone from previous administrations??
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)jaxexpat
(6,844 posts)It would be prudent for a president to anticipate a traitor. It would be on Trump's "my secret stuff" list.