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hedda_foil

(16,355 posts)
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 05:02 PM Sep 2022

Nicolle's show on MSNBC: Multiple IC guests are saying the fake Rothschild woman at MAL ...

was a Russian spy. Remember, the "Ukrainian" broad who spent lots of time with the Manchurian Canteloupe for months? Yeah. That one. A former head of Counter Intel and a former CIA agent both just came out and described her as a Russian spy. It was fairly obvious, but I didn't expect it to be stated on air so matter of factly.

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Nicolle's show on MSNBC: Multiple IC guests are saying the fake Rothschild woman at MAL ... (Original Post) hedda_foil Sep 2022 OP
Honey pot central scrutinizer Sep 2022 #1
Let's not overlook Traildogbob Sep 2022 #16
Will she talk about the mushroom? COL Mustard Sep 2022 #50
She's another Maria Butina. sop Sep 2022 #2
+1 dalton99a Sep 2022 #42
"...the 'Ukrainian' broad..." regnaD kciN Sep 2022 #3
Jesus MuseRider Sep 2022 #13
I think when Abigail_Adams Sep 2022 #78
I disagree. MuseRider Sep 2022 #87
Who, Natasha Fatale? When it comes to godsdamn spies, I am not too worried about that... Hekate Sep 2022 #14
Agreed, some skins might be a little thin for politics. Warpy Sep 2022 #56
TY for getting the point, Warpy Hekate Sep 2022 #64
I can't remember the people involved, but the story was that soldierant Sep 2022 #57
i dunno. i call myself that, and many of the women i admire, but mopinko Sep 2022 #67
This one, she was more of a Dame than a Broad. maxsolomon Sep 2022 #90
"Grab them by the p***y" central scrutinizer Sep 2022 #4
If they're spies and 3Hotdogs Sep 2022 #21
Not necessarily money.... SergeStorms Sep 2022 #37
IC? Sanity Claws Sep 2022 #5
Intelligence community gratuitous Sep 2022 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Sep 2022 #35
Mar-ma-lardo. SergeStorms Sep 2022 #38
Mar-A-Lago Native Sep 2022 #39
MaraLoco Captain Zero Sep 2022 #73
Merde-a-Lardo will always be my favorite. Native Sep 2022 #76
Mierda-Loco. Ocelot II Sep 2022 #84
Or Merde a GoGo MineralMan Sep 2022 #86
"Broad"? Ocelot II Sep 2022 #6
Squirrel Fullduplexxx Sep 2022 #26
More specifically Rocky StClone Sep 2022 #48
True story - cab67 Sep 2022 #93
Yup, even at DU. MrsCoffee Sep 2022 #82
"Narrow" does sound better. orangecrush Sep 2022 #83
Again - Why Are We Just Now Hearing That This Lady Was A Spy?...... global1 Sep 2022 #7
You don't cross the boss gratuitous Sep 2022 #12
After all, Kush orthoclad Sep 2022 #29
They don't don't want Donald going for their necks. sop Sep 2022 #43
It was first reported.... SergeStorms Sep 2022 #41
a+! True Blue American Sep 2022 #74
Maybe because many of us already assumed it, I guess. GoCubsGo Sep 2022 #70
What you said.... Jade Fox Sep 2022 #92
Something else from Nicolle's show, gab13by13 Sep 2022 #9
This does harm the trust we share with our allies. BigmanPigman Sep 2022 #17
Yes. We all need to let that sink in. wnylib Sep 2022 #20
People just cannot wrap their heads around that fact yet. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #54
Antichrist is not in my belief system. But, wnylib Sep 2022 #59
I have been thinking about the devil lately too. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #61
It's frightening to Abigail_Adams Sep 2022 #79
It started playing out the minute he walked into the WH. And will play out for decades to come. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #81
I expect tfg knew full well she was a Russian agent. Why else horde Gaugamela Sep 2022 #10
They quickly proved that her name was not Quakerfriend Sep 2022 #11
A couple days ago they said: Captain Zero Sep 2022 #23
In international waters.... SergeStorms Sep 2022 #44
Unless she accidentally shoots herself in the back louis-t Sep 2022 #53
Or "falls" out Abigail_Adams Sep 2022 #80
K n R ! Thanks for posting! nt JoeOtterbein Sep 2022 #15
"Manchurian Cantaloupe"? OMG I haven't heard that one before!!!!!! oldsoftie Sep 2022 #18
I got it from someone here a couple of weeks ago. Love it! hedda_foil Sep 2022 #19
His head sounds hollow when you thump it, and he's definitely seedy Hekate Sep 2022 #65
If anyone thinks Traildogbob Sep 2022 #22
All the senators involved need arrested questionseverything Sep 2022 #68
I think... 2naSalit Sep 2022 #24
That's something I hadn't considered about the speech. Thanks. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #60
Trump was a Russian spy for four years. And he sold out his country. lpbk2713 Sep 2022 #25
or liked Dijon mustard, wore a tan suit, called them "deplorables" etc.....How far we have fallen Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #27
That was a known feature, not a bug Mr. Ected Sep 2022 #28
Lindsey Graham's golfing buddy is a spy, say it ain't so. Emile Sep 2022 #30
Where is the picture of the three of them? efhmc Sep 2022 #58
And anyone with a clue knew Trump was compromised way before the elections. PurgedVoter Sep 2022 #31
But Trump "told it like it was". SergeStorms Sep 2022 #46
K&R UTUSN Sep 2022 #32
Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2022 #33
You know TFG was an asset of multiple foreign countries. His allegiance is to only himself. Pepsidog Sep 2022 #34
I know who you mean, butt I don't recall the name Rothschild in reference to her (?) msfiddlestix Sep 2022 #36
"Russia's a ruse" was a BigLie. czarjak Sep 2022 #40
This needs to be a headline, I mean its kind of a big deal. After some 2live is 2fly Sep 2022 #45
None of our allies should trust us until we totally clean house. That means fearlessly prosecuting diane in sf Sep 2022 #47
They already don't. triron Sep 2022 #63
MAL is so compromised and penetrated..... paleotn Sep 2022 #49
Sexpionage... dlk Sep 2022 #51
That's who the Orange Cantaloupe hangs out with ... ificandream Sep 2022 #52
You say 'Russian spy'. Dotard says 'honored guest'. keithbvadu2 Sep 2022 #55
WTF isn't Trump in handcuffs? triron Sep 2022 #62
K&R spanone Sep 2022 #66
Don't you think sigpooie Sep 2022 #69
Yashchyshyn had several passports. Swede Sep 2022 #71
Is that Lindsey Graham in the golf photo? NullTuples Sep 2022 #77
Wow D_Master81 Sep 2022 #72
"Spy" Heather MC Sep 2022 #75
Broad? Oh, dear... MineralMan Sep 2022 #85
Oh, dear... orangecrush Sep 2022 #89
I REALLY like that "Manchurian Cantaloupe" label! calimary Sep 2022 #88
Thanks, but I can't take credit for it, calimary. Another DUer used it first and I picked it up. hedda_foil Sep 2022 #94
Dump just made it so easy for anybody to traipse in and poke around. Martin68 Sep 2022 #91

Traildogbob

(8,289 posts)
16. Let's not overlook
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 05:31 PM
Sep 2022

The photos of her Trump and Lindsay, all smiles on his golf course, obviously talking “Business” which is what golf outings are for. Especially for amateurs that like to dress the part with the most expensive cubs made.

MuseRider

(34,016 posts)
13. Jesus
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 05:23 PM
Sep 2022

I had hoped, was never ever even closed to comfortable, that we were passed that. A broad. Really?

Abigail_Adams

(284 posts)
78. I think when
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:21 AM
Sep 2022

somebody truly deserves a derogatory term, it's acceptable to use it. And that's the case here. It shows just how bad that woman is. (The worst thing my mother would call a terrible woman was a "broad" or a "dame.&quot In other words the poster wouldn't call anyone else a broad.

MuseRider

(34,016 posts)
87. I disagree.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:57 AM
Sep 2022

I could not disagree more strongly. There are words that would explain the feeling without being sexist about it. The only thing worse than a man being a sexist is a woman who finds uses for those same words, you know, just THIS special time. NOPE

Hekate

(89,598 posts)
14. Who, Natasha Fatale? When it comes to godsdamn spies, I am not too worried about that...
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 05:27 PM
Sep 2022

Cristina Bayardella, who married Madison Cawthorn for 8 months
Maria Butina, who also cozied up to conservative American influencers/politicians

And now we’ve got the fake Rothschild, also Russian

I can think of a few other words for them besides “spy,” but “broad” is sanitary enough for conversation.

Warpy

(110,519 posts)
56. Agreed, some skins might be a little thin for politics.
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 07:53 PM
Sep 2022

Besides, it's cumbersome to keep saying things like "female Russian spy who was whelped in a kennel."

Republicans are suckers for these females. That party needs a massive cleanout.

However, Madison Cawthorn's "earthen vessel" was a spy? I hadn't heard that one. Methinks after 8 months with that little weasel will net her PTSD treatment for the rest of her life.

(Of course, the first thing to go when you go into nursing is your language. Mine has been known to blister paint)

Hekate

(89,598 posts)
64. TY for getting the point, Warpy
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 09:29 PM
Sep 2022

I’m just speculating about the ex Mrs Cawthorn. I wondered from the start, then yesterday there were a bunch of bikini photos posted here, with her new boyfriend. They have matching swimsuits and he looks like a male model.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217105231

soldierant

(6,454 posts)
57. I can't remember the people involved, but the story was that
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 07:56 PM
Sep 2022

a famed British actress of the day had just received from the Crown the equivalent of knighthood, which comes with the title "Dame." And this American was terribly upset.

"I don't get it," he said. "Why would they call a dignified broad like that a dame?"

maxsolomon

(32,736 posts)
90. This one, she was more of a Dame than a Broad.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 02:12 PM
Sep 2022

She had gams up to here, and always made with the snappy patter. Trump was a sittin' duck!

I just watched a bad Bogey movie and it was so like that. 1942.

Response to gratuitous (Reply #8)

Captain Zero

(6,649 posts)
73. MaraLoco
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:53 AM
Sep 2022

Top Secret File Folders that are EMPTY.

One of passports said her birthplace was MOSCOW.

That's not in Ukraine.


cab67

(2,828 posts)
93. True story -
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 04:13 PM
Sep 2022

A close friend was visited by a colleague from Russia many years ago.

At some point, my friend’s brother, who has a sick sense of humor, met this colleague.

He asked the colleague to say ‘Moose and Squirrel.’

I don’t think the Russian fellow got the joke.

global1

(25,099 posts)
7. Again - Why Are We Just Now Hearing That This Lady Was A Spy?......
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 05:13 PM
Sep 2022

Aren't there any checks on the people that TFG hangs with? He's got a Secret Service contingent assigned to him. Don't they check out the people that get close to him?

I don't understand how this can happen?

One would think that this would have been know right from the start that this lady was a spy.

As an aside: Does anyone think it is someone from TFG Secret Service contingent that was the informant on the documents that TFG had at MAL?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. You don't cross the boss
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 05:22 PM
Sep 2022

So when the former guy says "She comes in," she comes in. If the former guy isn't all that picky about security, why should the Secret Service stick their necks out?

SergeStorms

(18,564 posts)
41. It was first reported....
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 06:48 PM
Sep 2022

weeks ago, but the media didn't deem it important. Until now.

They were too busy covering every outrageous statement uttered by The Big Orange Pig to report important news.

GoCubsGo

(32,031 posts)
70. Maybe because many of us already assumed it, I guess.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:07 AM
Sep 2022

I mean, how many times have we seen this kind of thing already? Maria Butina, the Chinese spies freely roaming Merde a Lardo, Cawthorn's wife... It's safe to assume this one was a spy, as well, even after trying to pass her off as "Ukrainian."

gab13by13

(20,382 posts)
9. Something else from Nicolle's show,
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 05:14 PM
Sep 2022

she had on a former CIA agent who tracked the time line from when classified documents came up missing to the possible deaths of our overseas agents. We know that NARA was asking for the documents around April-May of 2021 and the CIA put out a warning to our foreign agents in October when some may have been outed.

Trump needs to be outed as a spy. I really hope that 5 Eyes intercepted something implicating Trump. The other 5 Eyes nations may not want to share information with us.

Irish_Dem

(44,132 posts)
54. People just cannot wrap their heads around that fact yet.
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 07:46 PM
Sep 2022

Even worse, he probably sold intel to Saudi and Iran as well.
And North Korea which sold it to China.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
59. Antichrist is not in my belief system. But,
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 08:20 PM
Sep 2022

if it were, Trump would fit as the ultimate evil in the world.

I also do not subscribe to reincarnation beliefs, but if I did, Hitler died on April 30, 1945. Trump was born on June 14, 1946. Both had abusive fathers. Both had Germanic connections, Hitler to Austria and later as dictator of Germany, and Trump through his immigrant grandfather from Germany.

Almost enough to make me a believer.



Irish_Dem

(44,132 posts)
61. I have been thinking about the devil lately too.
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 08:48 PM
Sep 2022

Trump is like the devil himself come to earth, to torment ad destroy.
To lead the world to a very dark place.

Wow I didn't know that about the death and birth dates.

Right, Hitler went straight to hell and then made a u-turn right back to Earth.
Vowed vengeance on the US for bringing him down.
Now he brings us to the brink of destruction.

Seems spot on to me.

Abigail_Adams

(284 posts)
79. It's frightening to
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:26 AM
Sep 2022

contemplate how all this will play out in the years to come. Then again, it may not take years, just months--or weeks.

Irish_Dem

(44,132 posts)
81. It started playing out the minute he walked into the WH. And will play out for decades to come.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:31 AM
Sep 2022

Yes we have no idea what damage he has done and what will happen down the road.

Welcome to DU!

Love your name. One of the greatest First Ladies.

Gaugamela

(2,465 posts)
10. I expect tfg knew full well she was a Russian agent. Why else horde
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 05:15 PM
Sep 2022

a bunch of classified documents? She delivered his paycheck.

SergeStorms

(18,564 posts)
44. In international waters....
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 06:58 PM
Sep 2022

off the coast of Florida, where every enemy country had ships listening in on every conversation coming in and going out of Mar-ma-lardo for the past 6 years.

It must have looked like the kiddies duck pond at the county fair out there. The ships were probably bumping into each other, and laughing their asses off over what a fucking idiot the U.S. had elected president. 🙄

louis-t

(23,089 posts)
53. Unless she accidentally shoots herself in the back
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 07:33 PM
Sep 2022

with a speargun. (Stole that from an episode of Just Shoot Me)

Traildogbob

(8,289 posts)
22. If anyone thinks
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 05:46 PM
Sep 2022

Graham is not up to his chin in this, (up to trumps knee caps), you are not awoken. It’s as obvious as the grapefruit size goiter on your nose.

2naSalit

(84,883 posts)
24. I think...
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 05:50 PM
Sep 2022

The speech last night gave the press license to use the language of reality with no sugar on top.

lpbk2713

(42,625 posts)
25. Trump was a Russian spy for four years. And he sold out his country.
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 05:53 PM
Sep 2022


And he was prepared to look the other way while thugs stormed the Capitol.

But even today if you ask some of the thirty percenters, it
was worse that a president got a BJ in the Oval Office.

Evolve Dammit

(16,384 posts)
27. or liked Dijon mustard, wore a tan suit, called them "deplorables" etc.....How far we have fallen
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 06:03 PM
Sep 2022

And sadly, they LOVE IT.

PurgedVoter

(2,139 posts)
31. And anyone with a clue knew Trump was compromised way before the elections.
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 06:10 PM
Sep 2022

Before the primaries we knew and there were Republicans who pointed it out.

H2O Man

(73,028 posts)
33. Recommended.
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 06:29 PM
Sep 2022

Yes, of course. That is why she required a "legend" to operate as she did. Many, though not all, spies operate under a "legend," or fake identity.

2live is 2fly

(336 posts)
45. This needs to be a headline, I mean its kind of a big deal. After some
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 07:00 PM
Sep 2022

verification of course. Manchurian Canteloupe. hehehe sweet

diane in sf

(3,887 posts)
47. None of our allies should trust us until we totally clean house. That means fearlessly prosecuting
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 07:04 PM
Sep 2022

everyone involved, no matter how rich and well-placed. The Republican Party needs to be ended as a national organization, by whatever legal means. This includes increasing the number of states by including D.C., Guam, etc., insuring voting rights nationally, ending the filibuster to get this stuff done, ending or neutralising the Electoral College (difficult, but needs to happen), RICO prosecutions, etc.

paleotn

(17,684 posts)
49. MAL is so compromised and penetrated.....
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 07:21 PM
Sep 2022

that anything Donnie kept for himself is now in foreign hands whether he tried to monetize it or not. One of the greatest intel disasters in American history. Mark my words.

Thanks, magat trash.

sigpooie

(106 posts)
69. Don't you think
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 06:57 AM
Sep 2022

That there were more than 1 person that did what she did.
Horny old Gop bastards are infested with these types.

Swede

(32,927 posts)
71. Yashchyshyn had several passports.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:43 AM
Sep 2022
https://www.timesofisrael.com/fbi-probes-ukrainian-born-heiress-who-posed-as-rothschild-gained-access-to-trump/


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D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
72. Wow
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:48 AM
Sep 2022

Foreign intelligence agencies were probably saying, “this is too easy. Like taking candy from a baby.” Just send a good looking woman and Trump probably blabbed a whole bunch of stuff try to impress her.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
75. "Spy"
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 10:06 AM
Sep 2022

Would imply that they had no idea who this woman was, that's a lie. I believe they knew exactly what this woman was therefore and they gave her what she wanted.

At some point we have to admit it's no longer a coincidence when cute little young girls that are Russian spies keep ending up in Donald Trump's company and the company of republicans.

She's not a plant, if she's invited

orangecrush

(18,913 posts)
89. Oh, dear...
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 02:12 PM
Sep 2022



"Broad" is a 1930's term for a woman that was less respectable than "Lady", but not as bad as the " b-word".

Kind of a feminine version of "rascal".

It was NOT a butchers term for a cut of meat, I can find no reputable source to back that claim up.

It looks like someone made it up.

That said, if it offends some here, it's probably best not to use it.

hedda_foil

(16,355 posts)
94. Thanks, but I can't take credit for it, calimary. Another DUer used it first and I picked it up.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 04:30 PM
Sep 2022

I wish I could remember who it was, but I'm old and bad at names to begin with.

Martin68

(22,521 posts)
91. Dump just made it so easy for anybody to traipse in and poke around.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 02:33 PM
Sep 2022

Taking a trove of documents home to share with "guests."

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