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sheshe2

(83,992 posts)
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 08:05 PM Sep 2022

Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman:

Veterans are certainly not monolithic in that opinion.

“This idiotic criticism of the @POTUS by media elites is absurd,” tweeted retired Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, who testified before Congress ahead of Donald Trump’s first impeachment trial. “They take umbrage over the use of the military as props, completely missing the content of his message… THE NATION IS IN DANGER! MAGA fascist (sic) are trying to end our democracy. Get a clue and some perspective.”

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/04/politics/home-front-biden-marines-philadelphia-speech-reaction/index.html

I apologize for the CNN link, I no longer watch them.

However, Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman words need to be heard.

"THE NATION IS IN DANGER! MAGA fascist (sic) are trying to end our democracy."

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Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman: (Original Post) sheshe2 Sep 2022 OP
There's no nice way The Wizard Sep 2022 #1
This, from the same party that's GOVERNED on using the military as props peppertree Sep 2022 #2
But notice that no republican president since McKinley has won a war and the Spanish-American war LT Barclay Sep 2022 #5
Absolutely. peppertree Sep 2022 #6
What about the Gulf War? former9thward Sep 2022 #16
Was never "won" in the first place. Sure we destroyed a lot of stuff, but I haven't heard even the LT Barclay Sep 2022 #17
It doesn't count because you don't want to count. former9thward Sep 2022 #18
Not my weird definitions, a long way back there was a document called the Contitution of the United LT Barclay Sep 2022 #19
And speaking of "weird" definitions, LT Barclay Sep 2022 #20
The Gulf War was authorized by the UN. former9thward Sep 2022 #21
I haven't seen anything in US law where a UN resolution supercedes the US Constitution. LT Barclay Sep 2022 #26
Good for Lt Col Vindman. Link to tweet. nt crickets Sep 2022 #3
Thank you, crickets. sheshe2 Sep 2022 #7
Oh it's a CNN link then nope we can't believe it GuppyGal Sep 2022 #4
Vindman and Trump keithbvadu2 Sep 2022 #8
Perfect. sheshe2 Sep 2022 #9
His message is for CNN, it was Breanna Kieller that was complaining about the marines. Bev54 Sep 2022 #10
the gnewz don't give a shit about BORING civics + democracy. they annointed trump. the 'NEW' golden pansypoo53219 Sep 2022 #11
Ladies, light your flame-throwers... Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #12
Vindman is a true patriot and a national hero. Martin68 Sep 2022 #13
I truly appreciate your apology for the cnn link, if possible I'd love to see cnn banned from DU Cozmo Sep 2022 #14
K&R for the OP and for the comments! dchill Sep 2022 #15
TY & AV.. Here's the Tweet If you want to RT! Cha Sep 2022 #22
Thank you, Cha! sheshe2 Sep 2022 #23
YVW, she! We're Fighting For our Very Cha Sep 2022 #24
This Needs a #25th KICK!! Cha Sep 2022 #25
This man is an American hero LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #27

peppertree

(21,706 posts)
2. This, from the same party that's GOVERNED on using the military as props
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:24 PM
Sep 2022

And how! Every GOP war since 1991 has been little more than a campaign event.

And of course, a cash cow. Can't forget that.

LT Barclay

(2,612 posts)
5. But notice that no republican president since McKinley has won a war and the Spanish-American war
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:36 PM
Sep 2022

wasn't anything to brag about. No purpose other than US trying to flex imperial muscle by picking a fight with a dying empire, and screwing over the locals in the process.

peppertree

(21,706 posts)
6. Absolutely.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:40 PM
Sep 2022

It's all about theater for them.

They wave the flag around, caterwaul about Jane Fonda and flag-burners, and raise the defense budget every chance they get - and this, to many of our fellow voters, makes them 'super-duper patriots'.

They're super at duping them alright.

LT Barclay

(2,612 posts)
17. Was never "won" in the first place. Sure we destroyed a lot of stuff, but I haven't heard even the
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 01:42 AM
Sep 2022

most ardent right winger try to say it was a victory. The country is still a mess and the whole thing was a sham, with a daughter of a Kuwaiti ambassador crying in her testimony to the UN about Iraqi soldiers taking babies from incubators.
Second, only congress has the right to declare war. Wasn't declared, wasn't a war, doesn't count.

former9thward

(32,119 posts)
18. It doesn't count because you don't want to count.
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 11:31 AM
Sep 2022

By your weird definitions. By your definition we have only had two wars since 1900. Tell that to all the families of those who have died in all of our "non-wars" during that period.

LT Barclay

(2,612 posts)
19. Not my weird definitions, a long way back there was a document called the Contitution of the United
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 02:16 PM
Sep 2022

States.
Look it up.

And maybe if someone had told that to those families, there would be a lot fewer republican families because they'd be sit of their relatives dying for nothing.

LT Barclay

(2,612 posts)
20. And speaking of "weird" definitions,
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 02:25 PM
Sep 2022

you're going to try to call the Gulf War a "victory".
Let's review what happened there.
The CIA overthrew a democratically elected government in Iran and installed the Shah as a puppet. Then when the Iranians overthrew the Shah we armed Saddam Hussein to "balance" things (promote US corporate interests). Then we basically invited Hussein to invade Kuwait, and then chased him out, and you want to call that a "victory"?

That's just beyond wierd. Go explain that one to the families you are so concerned about.

former9thward

(32,119 posts)
21. The Gulf War was authorized by the UN.
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 03:38 PM
Sep 2022

We fulfilled the objectives of the UN resolution and left. Sorry to disappoint you...

LT Barclay

(2,612 posts)
26. I haven't seen anything in US law where a UN resolution supercedes the US Constitution.
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 10:17 PM
Sep 2022

You're like my kid, you can't let things go when you're wrong. I don't know why you invited yourself into this discussion.

My only disappointment is I keep getting sucked into wasting time replying to you.

pansypoo53219

(21,005 posts)
11. the gnewz don't give a shit about BORING civics + democracy. they annointed trump. the 'NEW' golden
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:26 PM
Sep 2022

SQUIRL. i saw how CEE N N pimped trump. attacked the crone. and they ain't happy cause biden not thier pic. democrats make them look stupid too. they LUVED W.

Cha

(297,911 posts)
24. YVW, she! We're Fighting For our Very
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 08:01 PM
Sep 2022

Democracy and the USA has GD FASCISM for their Fucking Media!

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman Tweet is Perfect to see where at least on Twitter we can call the m$$$$$m OUT for their Fascist SHIT!

Such language!





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