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gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:15 PM Sep 2022

I Think That DOJ Should Only Indict Trump For What He Did After Leaving Office.

If DOJ indicts Trump for crimes he committed while in office I can foresee the fascist Supreme Court ruling that Trump can't be indicted for crimes he committed while he was president.

I thin DOJ should indict Trump for obstruction of justice for what he did re: the classified documents, lying to the FBI. Even that isn't a sure thing if his lawyers take the fall for him.

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I Think That DOJ Should Only Indict Trump For What He Did After Leaving Office. (Original Post) gab13by13 Sep 2022 OP
He was still in office when he incited a coup against America Poiuyt Sep 2022 #1
He gets a free ride on the J-6 Coup d e'tat ? magicarpet Sep 2022 #6
I think the Mueller obstruction crimes gab13by13 Sep 2022 #7
I think they should indict him for it all under RICO Bev54 Sep 2022 #2
I mean, I agree, but, gab13by13 Sep 2022 #3
But why should prosecutors concede defeat? Why not spooky3 Sep 2022 #5
Just imagine if Trump was indicted gab13by13 Sep 2022 #9
I have far less concern about that than about spooky3 Sep 2022 #10
Take your pick(s) tirebiter Sep 2022 #4
Indict for both. The stolen documents are pretty clear cut, and could Gaugamela Sep 2022 #8
+1 spooky3 Sep 2022 #11
That's an interesting thought... kentuck Sep 2022 #12
"Would they rule that a president has absolute power" Justice matters. Sep 2022 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author NoRethugFriends Sep 2022 #13
No reason he can't have multiple trials for multiple charges Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #14

magicarpet

(14,150 posts)
6. He gets a free ride on the J-6 Coup d e'tat ?
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:40 PM
Sep 2022

What about the bogus stolen election crap and his effort to nullify and void the will of the voters with his bogus schemes.

What about the Mueller Report listing 10x of obstruction of justice ? He gets a pass there too ?

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
7. I think the Mueller obstruction crimes
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:47 PM
Sep 2022

and "individual One" crime have passed the statute of limitations.

spooky3

(34,452 posts)
5. But why should prosecutors concede defeat? Why not
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:39 PM
Sep 2022

Try any serious case for which they have strong evidence?

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
9. Just imagine if Trump was indicted
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:49 PM
Sep 2022

but not convicted what he would be like. I have moved to the position that DOJ should only prosecute Trump on slam dunk cases.

The obstruction crime involving the classified documents is a 20 year sentence.

spooky3

(34,452 posts)
10. I have far less concern about that than about
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:59 PM
Sep 2022

The consequences of letting him slide. And the consequences you’re describing may be offset by the public’s outrage over SCOTUS’ decline.

If they have a strong case, bring it.

Gaugamela

(2,496 posts)
8. Indict for both. The stolen documents are pretty clear cut, and could
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:48 PM
Sep 2022

prevent him from running for office. If SCOTUS overturns a conviction for J6, then it becomes an argument to expand the court. Moreover, the indictment and trial for J6 could get convictions for Trump’s enablers, which could help discourage more coup attempts.

If the indictments spark right wing violence in the streets, so be it. Flush ‘em out and round ‘em up. I tired of playing nice with these delusional nitwits.

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
12. That's an interesting thought...
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 11:31 PM
Sep 2022

Why not indict on both charges and let it go to the Supreme Court and let them make a ruling.

They would probably be more inclined to make a ruling on anything that happened while he was still officially the president?

Would they rule that a president has absolute power?

Both sides are probably happy putting off a decision at this time?

Garland is waiting to get the facts, and he is much more patient than I. But, it is a balancing act. How do you keep the passions moderated as people and the Courts decide how to handle this mess? Garland is in a tough position. I would not want to be in his shoes.

It's the Mob.

Justice matters.

(6,929 posts)
15. "Would they rule that a president has absolute power"
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 12:13 AM
Sep 2022

i don't think they would kind of nullify their own branch's powers to give them to a new king, whoever that new monarch would be, and surely not to a traitor of our National Security secrets.

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Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
14. No reason he can't have multiple trials for multiple charges
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 12:01 AM
Sep 2022

The MAL espionage would likely be tried in Florida, and the J6 attempted coup in DC.

I say bankrupt the bastard.

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