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kentuck

(111,095 posts)
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 10:00 PM Sep 2022

Perhaps it should be put on the back burner a while, and let it simmer until it is ready...?

Espionage is a very hot issue at this time. The passions are high. There is talk of civil wars. Violence is on the rise.

Maybe, in a few weeks, or several months, it will be ready to pour into the saucer, so everyone can see?

But, there is other work to do.

Someone invited a gang of violent people to come to Washington on January 6th, the day the electoral votes are counted from each state. They were incited to an insurrection and they marched on the Capitol. They threatened the lives of elected Representatives and even the Vice President. They were violent and destructive. They were a mob.

They were not lawful and they were not patriotic. They were quite the opposite.

The corrupt politicians in the White House, at that time, believed they could come up with a scam to steal an election from the America people. They attempted to extort different state officials by getting them to disqualify some of the votes, so their guy could stay in the White House.

They conspired. In the Willard Hotel, at the White House, at the not-yet-known scandal with the Trump International Hotel. (A little shady about how he came across that building, thru the assistance of someone at GSA, or one of those government organizations?)

There is still work to do for Merrick Garland and the DOJ.

There are still crimes to investigate.

So the espionage case can sit on the back burner for as long as they like. The DOJ still has work to do.

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gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
1. How many non-participants at the insurrection has DOJ indicted?
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 10:10 PM
Sep 2022

1. The leader of the Oath Keepers but he incriminated himself on social media.
2. Steve Bannon from a J6 criminal referral.
3. Peter Navarro from a J6 criminal referral.

How many back burners do we have?

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
4. I can understand why you would think that.
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 10:19 PM
Sep 2022

But if the Democratic government cannot find the power to convict, the least they should do, is to try and make sure they win the next election, and maintain control of the House and Senate.

They should try to restore justice to our Constitution.

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
8. We absolutely need to keep the House
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 10:33 PM
Sep 2022

and gain seats in the Senate. The first order of business, if we do that, should be to add 4 justices to the Supreme Court. It needs to be accomplished before 2025.

Laffy Kat

(16,379 posts)
3. No, kentuck!
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 10:14 PM
Sep 2022

Items placed on the back burner tend to be forgotten. I adore you kentuck, and I agree with everything else in your OP, but I disagree about letting the espionage case wait. If the DOJ doesn't go after this with everything they've got, we could end up with another four years of that treasonous idiot and that will be all she wrote, we will be done.

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
5. Do you think they will permit the Special Master or will they appeal the decision?
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 10:23 PM
Sep 2022

Or do they do something else?

What are their options?

Laffy Kat

(16,379 posts)
7. I have no idea what the precedent is here.
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 10:31 PM
Sep 2022

I suspect there either isn't one or it's muddy. Why wouldn't the DOJ appeal?

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
9. I think DOJ should appeal
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 10:37 PM
Sep 2022

because the judge's ruling is so flawed. The reason DOJ may not appeal is because it will take a long time to be resolved, many months, not weeks. It will go to the SC no matter what the 11th circuit decides and who knows how long that fascist court will delay?

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
6. Whether we like it or not, that is probably where it is going.
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 10:28 PM
Sep 2022

It will be interesting to see what the FBI does?

They could take the Judge to court, I suppose. That would be a novel idea.

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
11. I suppose they would have to go to the Appeals Court?
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 10:54 PM
Sep 2022

Or trust the Special Master to do his job quickly and thoroughly?

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
12. I had my patience tested and the results came back negative, but
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 11:00 PM
Sep 2022

even though a DOJ appeal will take a long time, it is the right way to go. I wouldn't give that Magat judge any credence, lay the legal lumber to her. The appeal goes to the 2nd most conservative circuit out of 13, why not to DC I don't know? However the appeals court rules the loser will appeal to the Supreme Court.

DOJ may choose to take the faster route. I don't have an inkling on this one.

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