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allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:00 PM Sep 2022

Politico: Things are changing at CNN as Chris Licht is starting to hire new people...

Licht is hiring now as, "he asserts his vision" for the network. Politico reports there may be more changes, and anchors like "Jim Acosta and Brianna Keiler could be on the chopping block." Licht is supposedly moving "away from its (CNN's) editorial posture of the last few years." So far, Brian Stelter, Jeffrey Toobin and John Harwood have left.


https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/06/cnn-chris-licht-nypd-hire-news-media-00054894

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Politico: Things are changing at CNN as Chris Licht is starting to hire new people... (Original Post) allegorical oracle Sep 2022 OP
Politico is owned by a RWer from Germany .... Lovie777 Sep 2022 #1
DUers need to share the full 4 paragraphs allowed from Politico articles so we don't send them ZonkerHarris Sep 2022 #7
+++ hlthe2b Sep 2022 #8
Lots of things like newspapers/housing and rental properties are owned by RW from other countries. Samrob Sep 2022 #26
If Jim Acosta and Brianna Keiler are axed I hope MSNBC scoops the up. brush Sep 2022 #2
Ironic (or whatever it's called), from this source. nt RockRaven Sep 2022 #3
Make no mistake..this isn't about salvaging a failing network, or making money PortTack Sep 2022 #4
Bring in a new person on the street everyday and I may turn it on again. pwb Sep 2022 #5
Just one thing to do..#boycottCNN..easy for me..Anderson and Don need to asiliveandbreathe Sep 2022 #6
I see the changes and understand the alarm but have to say mahina Sep 2022 #9
Nothing I see to date convinces me CNN is going right wing. Crowded field over there! Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2022 #10
What you're not seeing is what you're not seeing. Fozzledick Sep 2022 #24
John Miller seems like an excellent hire for CNN's Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst. Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #11
It appears that there is some disagreement regarding Miller's honesty JohnSJ Sep 2022 #19
Sorry but the linked article drips with bias and false claims. Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #21
I posted the link of your analysis of the article on this thread where I saw the media matter JohnSJ Sep 2022 #31
I saw that. Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #32
Thanks. Your points are very convincing +++ JohnSJ Sep 2022 #33
I'm pleased you think so. Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #34
If Acosta goes, CNN goes down with him. DFW Sep 2022 #12
Well, it may not matter what the audience numbers are if billionaires buy up the advertising slots. TheRealNorth Sep 2022 #13
There are few viewers to be gained by pandering rightward. bullimiami Sep 2022 #14
Agreed. How many years did tfg attack and undermine the press, esp. CNN? Goin on, 7? lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #35
Fuck his "vision". Initech Sep 2022 #15
On the chopping block budkin Sep 2022 #16
Other than one tweet I saw from her, which was hardly an attack, please link me to her "desperate BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #18
Are you kidding me?? budkin Sep 2022 #58
Toobin should have been long ago, and that's got nothing to do with right or left politics. BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #17
+1 Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #22
I actually enjoyed a couple of Stelter's books, but he was such an obvious boss's boy, I figured BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #25
I couldn't BELIEVE when they brought him back. geez IcyPeas Sep 2022 #27
I know; I got queasy just looking at him lol. BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #28
Agreed about Toobin and didn't know about Stelter. Native Sep 2022 #44
Good post. BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #45
The only time I make a point of watching CNN is when Acosta or Keiler are on. Vinca Sep 2022 #20
Things have already changed Meowmee Sep 2022 #23
Eggzackly. Kid Berwyn Sep 2022 #29
The worst is they are now towing Meowmee Sep 2022 #51
Stelter was Zucker's pet, he defended Toobin and Cuomo repeatedly. BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #30
Keiler and Sidner, I am sure there are others but I am not watching much anymore Meowmee Sep 2022 #47
I've asked again and again for anything against Keilar. BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #49
Lemon has made rw talking points? BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #50
He was making excuses for dump about stealing top secret records etc. Meowmee Sep 2022 #52
Yeah, google is my friend. BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #53
He did make excuses Meowmee Sep 2022 #54
So you watch him. BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #55
I am simply reporting what I saw him say and saying yes i see that Meowmee Sep 2022 #56
LOL OilemFirchen Sep 2022 #36
Thread win. BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #39
I did a literal LOL at MMfA's parenthetical. OilemFirchen Sep 2022 #42
Hang in there. BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #43
Politico reporting on CNN moving right.... spanone Sep 2022 #37
Seriously! BlueIdaho Sep 2022 #40
👍🏼 spanone Sep 2022 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author spanone Sep 2022 #38
I'll do the wait and see approach first. Xolodno Sep 2022 #46
Brianna Keiler going? kwolf68 Sep 2022 #48
Dear Politico CEO: If you are going to be a Trump supporter, at least have the courage to admit it. LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #57

ZonkerHarris

(24,226 posts)
7. DUers need to share the full 4 paragraphs allowed from Politico articles so we don't send them
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:09 PM
Sep 2022

lots of web traffic
These one line posts have to go.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
26. Lots of things like newspapers/housing and rental properties are owned by RW from other countries.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:09 PM
Sep 2022

The rich here have been selling out more than the country's values. When you finally get to know who owns and runs the inner city ghettos, the land of gated communities, the commercial buildings etc. it will be shocking. A lot of it began in earnest during the 80's when Japan bought 1/4 of nations land and building holdings. (I know it's exaggeration).

Our farmland ownership is maddening. Big agri-industry owned abroad. Some family who works at the World Bank made my skin crawl.

brush

(53,778 posts)
2. If Jim Acosta and Brianna Keiler are axed I hope MSNBC scoops the up.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:04 PM
Sep 2022

They would fit right into to their afternoon-evening line up.

PortTack

(32,767 posts)
4. Make no mistake..this isn't about salvaging a failing network, or making money
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:05 PM
Sep 2022

This is about a man with too much money wanting to push his extreme RW agenda and burying any accomplishments by president Biden and the Dems.

pwb

(11,265 posts)
5. Bring in a new person on the street everyday and I may turn it on again.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:06 PM
Sep 2022

Cable opinions are very stale. Predictable. Without War we don't need your station Chris. 24 hour news is played.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
6. Just one thing to do..#boycottCNN..easy for me..Anderson and Don need to
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:08 PM
Sep 2022

make waves..of leaving..Jim Acosta..and Brianna..leave ..give notice..imagine finding out "on the chopping block" in an editorial..??

mahina

(17,656 posts)
9. I see the changes and understand the alarm but have to say
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:13 PM
Sep 2022

When I actually turned cnn on the reporting was fair. Perhaps a remnant, perhaps not for long but for now, it read fairly and alarmed at Trump’s lawlessness.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
10. Nothing I see to date convinces me CNN is going right wing. Crowded field over there!
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:19 PM
Sep 2022

New hires will tell the tale, patience is warranted.

Patience! On social media?? Made myself chuckle a little!

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
24. What you're not seeing is what you're not seeing.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 05:58 PM
Sep 2022

They appear to be purging voices that don't conform to the corporate establishment spin.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
11. John Miller seems like an excellent hire for CNN's Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:20 PM
Sep 2022

Miller is a multi-award winning journalist who also worked at the FBI as their national spokesperson.

He's also held an array of important national security and counter-terrorism positions.

He was the Deputy Commissioner of Intelligence & Counterterrorism at the New York City Police Department.

He served as the Associate Deputy Director of National Intelligence for Analytic Transformation and Technology

And he was also the chief of the Los Angeles Police Department Counter-Terrorism and Criminal Intelligence Bureau, here in my hometown.

He is extremely well-qualified to serve as CNN's Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst.

And Miller has had a distinguished career as a journalist.

Looks like Chris Licht has hit a homerun with this hire!

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
21. Sorry but the linked article drips with bias and false claims.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 05:47 PM
Sep 2022

First Media Matter reporter John Knefel try to denigrate John Miller, a person with significant experience in national security and reporting, who is well well-qualified to be CNN's Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst, by calling him a "pundit, and then (more seriously and without evidence) Knefel repeats the same conspiracy theory that was begun by the ultra-right Free Beacon that: "The move appears to be part of a larger right-ward shift and very public identity crisis at CNN."

Not a good start.

Then John Knefel attempts to re-frame Miller's obvious experience as a distinguished journalist and a national security/anti-terrorism expert as a negative, "Miller is a prominent example of the revolving door between law enforcement and media, having been both a journalist and NYPD spokesperson over the course of his career." Good lord.

In the wake of 911 spying on people who are suspected of being radicalized extremists who may be linked with terrorist groups is not ipso facto "Islamophobia."

What Miller said: "If you’re investigating al Qaeda, and TTP and ISIL plots against New York City, your investigating targets are going to be who they are,” is not an example of Islamophobia. Sorry.

Not really feeling John Knefel is acting in good faith here.

Miller recognizing that NYC continues to be threatened by terrorism is also not Islamophobia.

This is what Miller wrote, “Whether it is Iran, Hezbollah, Al Qaida or ISIS, the terrorists will continue to focus on New York as the media capital of the world as well as America’s safest big city.”

And I guess Ernest Hemingway, a man who fought against fascism in Spain, is now cancelled by the likes of John Knefel?

This is appallingly bad journalism in my estimation

Good grief.


JohnSJ

(92,190 posts)
31. I posted the link of your analysis of the article on this thread where I saw the media matter
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:17 PM
Sep 2022

article cited:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17128107

Hope you don’t mind. If so, I will self delete in that thread above

I know nothing about Miller, and just trying to understand the veracity of the accusation

Thanks



 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
32. I saw that.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:24 PM
Sep 2022

I was actually excited to read your link, but then discovered it led back to *me* LOL

Thanks for asking and I don't mind a bit.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
12. If Acosta goes, CNN goes down with him.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:31 PM
Sep 2022

What a feather in MSNBC'S hat Acosta would be, though. Wasn't there some talk of Rachel Maddow's shoes being a bit big to fill? I think Jim Acosta might be up to making a go of it.

If CNN becomes Fox Lite, it will go down the tubes, because rather than lure away the Foxsuckers, it will just chase off the center-left that it depended on for its base audience.

Fox viewers don't want the truth slanted their way. They want outright lies that are put in simple terms, and are easy to digest, intellectually. If CNN is going to try to sell chicken sandwiches to an audience that consists only of steak eaters and vegans, their sales will never amount to much.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
13. Well, it may not matter what the audience numbers are if billionaires buy up the advertising slots.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:38 PM
Sep 2022

Because it is about the advertising revenue, not the number of eyes. Theoretically, they are related, but not all demographics are equally as valuable to advertisers, and businesses have thrown money away to support programming of their ideology.

Hell, it can be written of as a business expense instead of a donation.

bullimiami

(13,094 posts)
14. There are few viewers to be gained by pandering rightward.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:45 PM
Sep 2022

That will only further alienate the rest of us.

They have one path to solid ratings and longevity and that’s become a serious news channel again.
It’s sorely needed.

Is not a ratings winner but it’s solid and real.

budkin

(6,703 posts)
16. On the chopping block
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:52 PM
Sep 2022
"Puck also reported that Licht is eying other major changes, and that anchors like Jim Acosta and Brianna Keilar could be on the chopping block."

No wonder Brianna Keilar was attacking Biden so desperately last week!
 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
18. Other than one tweet I saw from her, which was hardly an attack, please link me to her "desperate
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:58 PM
Sep 2022

attacks" on Biden.

budkin

(6,703 posts)
58. Are you kidding me??
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 10:08 PM
Sep 2022

Just look at her timeline in the 2+ days following that. She literally tripled down and the morning after the speech had a segment where she “examined the backlash of the optics” when SHE WAS THE ONE THAT CREATED THE BACKLASH.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
17. Toobin should have been long ago, and that's got nothing to do with right or left politics.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 04:57 PM
Sep 2022

Glad he's gone.

Stelter was Zucker's toadie and disliked by almost everyone at CNN. He defended the Cuomos despite the evidence. He also defended Toobin. His ratings were terrible.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
25. I actually enjoyed a couple of Stelter's books, but he was such an obvious boss's boy, I figured
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:01 PM
Sep 2022

he'd be one of the first to go.

Toobin, ugh, nuff said.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
28. I know; I got queasy just looking at him lol.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:11 PM
Sep 2022

THAT pissed me off about CNN way more than all this conjecture I'm reading here now.

Native

(5,942 posts)
44. Agreed about Toobin and didn't know about Stelter.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 07:52 PM
Sep 2022

I hope we will eventually find out what the fuck is really going on. In my estimation we either have a right wing attack and this is all bullshit they're promulgating to hurt CNN or Licht really is moving the network more to the right. I've always relied on MediaMatters since Boehlert, but Politico? And why are so many right wing entities, including Trump, pushing this story? Fox can't seriously be worried that CNN might siphon off some of their viewers, so the only rationale I can see for this being a right wing fabrication is to bring about the demise of CNN. And it always seems to be right leaning sources that are pushing this stuff. Like Licht wanting to desensationalise the network. Every article, except for Vanity Fair's, goes all ham on the "don't use The Big Lie" anymore, but they never point out that it wasn't a mandate, he simply wanted to make it sound less partisan by replacing that with "Trump's election lies." Only VF gives us the full story. And I completely agree with Licht about tamping down the "BREAKING NEWS" bullshit. I think everyone can agree that what has been considered breaking news by CNN has been serious overkill. I mean, it seems as if every damn development has a blaring BREAKING NEWS headline and accompanying melodramatic music these days. And Licht is also, as I am, not a fan of the network's partisan debate panels. If he can free up that time and replace it with news that isn't political for a change, I'd love it. There's so much more we need to hear about, so much more going on in this world, and CNN has been reporting less and less about things that don't involve politics. I hope he's successful in these areas. I'd love to see CNN cover more and be less opinionated. The facts can speak for themselves. And maybe more people will actually listen if they're not told what to think. A girl can wish.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
45. Good post.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 08:07 PM
Sep 2022

I’m very suspicious about these attacks against some of our good CNN anchors.

I saw one poster last night saying he thought Cooper would go “full wing nut.” Cooper is a gay man in a marriage, with a child, and that attack on him from a poster here was very disappointing.

I don’t watch a lot of tv, but I’ve been tuning in more after reading all this crap, and I’ve seen nothing to warrant the attacks.

As you say, one wonders whence this comes.

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
20. The only time I make a point of watching CNN is when Acosta or Keiler are on.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 05:10 PM
Sep 2022

If they get the boot I hope MSNBC picks them up.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
23. Things have already changed
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 05:51 PM
Sep 2022

They are firing people who speak out against the fascist/ fascism. Reporters are making right wing talking points they would not have before to keep their jobs… things have already changed.

Kid Berwyn

(14,904 posts)
29. Eggzackly.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:14 PM
Sep 2022

CNN now does whatever is best for its owners, not the only business mentioned by name in the Constitution, the free Press.

Licht answers to the Ownership Class.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
51. The worst is they are now towing
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:09 PM
Sep 2022

A fascist line, that is how fascism succeeds. When supposed main stream press supports it. They fired JH for calling out fascism and defending B speech.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
30. Stelter was Zucker's pet, he defended Toobin and Cuomo repeatedly.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:14 PM
Sep 2022

He also had poor ratings.

Toobin should never have been back after his debacle.

Please cite reporters making right wing talking points.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
47. Keiler and Sidner, I am sure there are others but I am not watching much anymore
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:04 PM
Sep 2022

Also Lemon! And JH was just fired for calling out dump as a fascist and defending the Biden speech….which is the most disturbing.

I don’t care whose pet he was, he was still an anti dump voice.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
49. I've asked again and again for anything against Keilar.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:07 PM
Sep 2022

Nothing but crickets.

But good, don’t watch. Lol, I’m sure you’ll be missed.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
52. He was making excuses for dump about stealing top secret records etc.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:13 PM
Sep 2022

I was a bit shocked, but not totally surprised because they all mostly eventually walk everything back. I can’t find a recording of it. I watched it live 3-4 days ago maybe. As for the others sidner’s comments were posted here via twitter which is how I heard of it… bringing up serious questions unmentioned about hb laptop… google is also your friend.

Keilar, called out Biden for having uniformed marines behind him during his speech, saying he was being political or something to that effect.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
53. Yeah, google is my friend.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:21 PM
Sep 2022

But Lemon has never made excuses for tfg stealing docs.

You folks who hate CNN? Here’s some advice.

Don’t watch.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
54. He did make excuses
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:25 PM
Sep 2022

I witnessed it and am not a liar. I am not watching it. I won’t support people who sell out for fascism.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
55. So you watch him.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:30 PM
Sep 2022

Too funny.

You think a black gay man has sold out to fascism. Ok.

I have no words for this.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
56. I am simply reporting what I saw him say and saying yes i see that
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:37 PM
Sep 2022

And what the others did as exactly that.

If you choose to attack me because you don’t like it that is your choice not mine. I watched that a few days ago by the way. I am done with this “discussion”… bye my friend.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
36. LOL
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:56 PM
Sep 2022

I remember when CNN was go-to news and MMfA was a tool of the Establishment. John Harwood, who cut his teeth for more than a decade as a WSJ editorialist was a right-wing shill. I even remember, just a few hours ago, when Brianna Keiler was a sellout.

Every weekday we're treated to the ramblings of Dead Intern Joe and Dead Intern Joe's muddled wife. This morning we witnessed Chris Matthews being praised for lookin' good.

At least Politico has been consistent.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
42. I did a literal LOL at MMfA's parenthetical.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 07:39 PM
Sep 2022

From New CNN chief’s first major hire is retired cop who recently lied about the NYPD spying on Muslims after 9/11:

(CNN also hired CBS’s Dr. Tara Narula as a medical correspondent.)

She seems pretty solid. Did Licht fuck up? Is he just messing with us or Is MMfA bothsiderisming?

I honestly don't think I can abide the silliness much longer.

Response to allegorical oracle (Original post)

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
46. I'll do the wait and see approach first.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 08:30 PM
Sep 2022

CNN has been flailing between Fox and MSNBC. They get their main ratings from natural disasters, world events, etc. because they have the infrastructure on the ground that can get that in close reporting. So they maybe shaking things up and bringing in new blood with new ideas.

But IF they do get rid of Acosta, yeah, I think we can assume what is happening. Right wing news media is all ready saturated with several outlets. And if they get into that space, it will spell disaster. Fairly sure ABC News Now and a few smaller start ups would gladly pick up that market share, should it happen.

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