Bringing forward this discussion from 2021 since the original author replied to my thread...

[TexasTowelie]

Original thread:

Take it from this Tacoma Democrat: Liberals should fear vaccine passports

Mike Moceri is an attorney practicing in Tacoma. He is a former chair of the Washington State Bar Association’s Young Lawyers Committee, an essayist and a rabble-rouser. He caucused for Bernie Sanders with Tacoma Democrats in 2016, voted for Sanders in the 2020 presidential primary and for Joe Biden in the general election.

Mike's response:

MikeMoceri (1 post)

43. Original Author Here, Questions Welcome

Hey All,

Old thread, I know, but someone I know recently had some questions about my article, and I found this thread when searching for the original article. Good discussion; and I do take criticism as constructive. However, I'd like to give a short update on a particular part of the article which now seems almost prophetic (in a bad way!):

Me in 2021: "Medical decisions are personal and should be made between a patient and their doctor. This is as true of vaccinations as it is of the decision to have an abortion. Could you imagine the Democratic outcry if Republicans attempted to force women to disclose whether they had an abortion in order to participate in public life?"

Me in 2022: "Yeah, I think I know exactly what that looks like."

Question for you all -- has anyone's opinion on this issue changed in light of the decision in Dobbs and all of the state-level legislation trying to peer into women's medical histories in order to criminalize abortion? If yes, what precisely changed your mind? If not, why not?

-Mike

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215330878

[Gaugamela]

1. Abortions aren't contagious and won't kill your grandmother

or an immunocompromised child. I visited Los Angeles about 6 months ago and had to show evidence of vaccination to get into a couple of coffee shops. I had no problem with the request, and actually found it reassuring.

There is absolutely no rationalization for forcing women to disclose abortion history, or for anyone to disclose their medical history that does not pertain to a public health threat.

[Rhiannon12866]

2. Very well said, wish they'd check for vaccination status here (Northeastern New York)

We're a big tourist destination (Lake George) and I've seen license plates from most every state in the Union over the summer. My doctor's office made a photocopy of my vaccination card, but when I saw an ENT, they weren't interested, though masks are still required there.

[Ohio Joe]

3. +1 - nt

[Just A Box Of Rain]

4. What sort of twisted horseshit is this?

Comparing vaccinations that protect lives during a pandemic that has killed over 1 million Americans with abortion rights?

For fuck's sake.

Not buying what he's selling.

[betsuni]

5. Contagious diseases are public health issues that affect the whole society.

I don't even understand the argument here.

[herding cats]

6. Vaccination is an issue of public health. Abortion of personal health.

It's apples and oranges.

There are many places one cannot go without certain vaccines due to the public health risks. Whereas a woman getting an abortion doesn't spread diseases to the general public.

I can't read the original article due to a paywall, but the question as to if Dobbs has changed any minds is ignorant on its face. My wombs contents, or the lack thereof, aren't threatening the general publics health.

[betsuni]

7. I know, wish we could read the original article.

Something about the movie "Gattaca" being scary, as if women are getting abortions for genetic reasons: "I'm surprised that many of my friends either have forgotten the lessons of that film or haven't seen it." What lessons?

[Spazito]

8. To put the right to privacy and the requirement for vaccinations in...

the same bucket is beyond ludicrous. They have NOTHING in common.