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The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 09:22 AM Sep 2022

Jackson has never been able to fix their water system without state and federal help.


These people have been boiling drinking water for years. They remember their grandmothers boiling drinking water.
This is a major infrastructure project requiring billions which will require state and federal help. The problems have gone on for years. Like all cities they need state and federal government help. All cities get state and federal government help with major infrastructure projects. The state is majority republican and has refused to help.
Yes the city is 82% black with a 26.9% poverty rate. Let that sink in for a few moments. Why would any industry or business locate in this city when they don't have and haven't had clean water for years!!!!
Repuke house members in Mississippi voted against Bidens infrastructure bill!!!! Even thought their people desperately need the help!!! ****That folks is the face of systemic racism.****
Here is another example:
The city of Philadelphia and Reading, Pa school systems are a disaster. The state has a majority republican state congress. The schools do not get help. The per student funding is well below the suburbs! It is called systemic racism. The state actually took over control of the Philadelphia school system for many years. Nothing changed. Then the republicans admitted failure and gave control back to the school board. Still no money. The system is making improvements but still lags the suburbs. For a while they had almost a 50% drop out rate. That number has improved. Philadelphia is 43% black. Repukes hate Philadelphia. It votes D. Pa is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Pennsatucky in the middle.

Systemic racism is real.
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Jackson has never been able to fix their water system without state and federal help. (Original Post) The Jungle 1 Sep 2022 OP
Yep. Diamond_Dog Sep 2022 #1
Do they not have drinking fountains and such at the capital? Or is drinking bottled water the future LiberalArkie Sep 2022 #2
Philadelphia could raise property taxes on the richest and a minor increase for middle class jimfields33 Sep 2022 #3
When property taxes go up they go up evenly across the board. The Jungle 1 Sep 2022 #6
Is this the state where that former Sports Guy got millions in Tax Payer funds ? JI7 Sep 2022 #4
Yes. cbabe Sep 2022 #7
Jackson only has a population of 163,000 - a rather small city. harumph Sep 2022 #5
This intervies by NPR says 2 billion The Jungle 1 Sep 2022 #11
You mentioned Reading PA schools Amishman Sep 2022 #8
So it is the kids fault? Really? The Jungle 1 Sep 2022 #12
Their environment outside of school would be more accurate Amishman Sep 2022 #13
Again let me say... The Jungle 1 Sep 2022 #15
This is the clearest picture of systemic racism you'll ever see Trailrider1951 Sep 2022 #9
Yep. If the city was 82% white the water system would've... brush Sep 2022 #10
K&R UTUSN Sep 2022 #14

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
2. Do they not have drinking fountains and such at the capital? Or is drinking bottled water the future
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 09:33 AM
Sep 2022

I guess all the fountains have Brawndo coming out.

jimfields33

(15,786 posts)
3. Philadelphia could raise property taxes on the richest and a minor increase for middle class
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 09:33 AM
Sep 2022

That’s how they raise revenue in the suburbs. Schools benefit from property taxes.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
6. When property taxes go up they go up evenly across the board.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:05 AM
Sep 2022

Everybody in the school district gets the same millage increase
Except in Bucks county Pa which has not done a property reassessment in 60 years. Imagine paying property tax on a property that was assessed 60 years ago. Hidden secret, buy an old house in Bucks.

cbabe

(3,541 posts)
7. Yes.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:42 AM
Sep 2022
https://www.cnbc.com › 2022 › 09 › 01 › the-nations-poorest-state-used-welfare-money-to-pay-brett-favre-for-speeches-he-never-made.html

The nation's poorest state used welfare money to pay Brett Favre for ...

But that didn't stop the state of Mississippi from paying Favre $1.1 million in 2017 and 2018 to make motivational speeches — out of federal welfare funds intended for needy families.

(Speeches never given.)

harumph

(1,898 posts)
5. Jackson only has a population of 163,000 - a rather small city.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:00 AM
Sep 2022

It's not that hard to build a water treatment plant for that many people. How can this service require
"billions"? That assertion seems preposterous.
The North Texas Municipal Water District serves over 2 million --- safely --- and with an operating budget of about 1/2 billion.
The people handling this are simply dumbasses or they're stealing or diverting tax dollars - full stop.
G-Damn Mississippi!

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
11. This intervies by NPR says 2 billion
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 03:13 PM
Sep 2022
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/10/1085670168/why-millions-of-federal-dollars-won-t-be-enough-to-fix-it-jacksons-water-system
It is more than just the treatment plant. The entire water infrastructure is shot. I believe I read they still have some lead pipes.
Again, people in the city of Jackson remember their grandmothers boiling drinking water!!! The white state majority repuke leadership has ignored this black city for generations.

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/10/1085670168/why-millions-of-federal-dollars-won-t-be-enough-to-fix-it-jacksons-water-system

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
8. You mentioned Reading PA schools
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:50 AM
Sep 2022

That's not far from me, and I know an elementary teacher there.

The problem is far deeper than funding or the schools. A small fraction of the kids come from a completely dysfunctional setting and are not able to function in the classroom in a non-disruptive fashion.

Too many kids from dysfunctional households results in dysfunctional classrooms. The teachers are unable to separate the problem students from the rest.

She calls it the Bart Simpson effect, where a problem child pulls down those around them. Remote learning during the pandemic was a huge boon for her, as the disruptive kids either never connected or just walked off.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
12. So it is the kids fault? Really?
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 03:43 PM
Sep 2022

Is that the same reason the schools in Philly are failing? Bad kids?
Wonder why no industry or business moves to cities with failing schools and failing infrastructure.
Hummmmm wonder why it is always the black communities that can't get help.
The communities in my area north of Philly have great schools. CB has three football stadiums. They will build field houses next.
Test scores were way down after the pandemic. What she is saying is she didn't have to deal with bad kids during the pandemic. Here is the deal. In functioning well funded school systems the staff to student ratio is much higher. Blaming kids and families is not the solution or the answer. It is an excuse.
Admitting to systemic racism is only step one and only part of the answer.
Systemic racism is exactly what is going on in these two school systems and in Mississippi!
I am trying not to be confrontational however this is an issue causing great harm to our nation.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
13. Their environment outside of school would be more accurate
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:20 PM
Sep 2022

The kids in question are on an extremely dark path, and already exhibit deep rooted narcissistic and violent tendencies at elementary school age.

These kids are victims but they are also the root cause of many of their classmates academic struggles.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
15. Again let me say...
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 09:20 PM
Sep 2022

In a well funded school district the staff to student ratio would allow for intervention. The funding in Philly and Reading is well below the suburbs. That is the face of systemic racism. There are bad kids and dysfunctional families in the suburbs.

Understand, I agree there are children on bad paths. Now understand this. Early intervention will be MUCH cheaper than incarceration later.

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
9. This is the clearest picture of systemic racism you'll ever see
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 11:03 AM
Sep 2022

There is no other logical explanation. Why else would those white state politicians leave their capital city to rot like that? And I'm going to re-post this:



brush

(53,771 posts)
10. Yep. If the city was 82% white the water system would've...
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 12:16 PM
Sep 2022

been fixed decades ago. It's 82% Black so the legislature and powers that be who live in the suburbs don't care.

It's Mississippi after all. Pure, systemic racism. And the state is not ashamed that their capitol city's water system is so dysfunctional.

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