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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumstiedrich makes the missing documents could be at bedminster connection
holy fucking shit, on May 6, 2021, NARA asked Donald Trump to return missing documents. on May 9, 2021, Donald Trump was filmed leaving Florida with dozens of boxes, bound for Bedminster. let me repeat this: HOLY. FUCKING. SHIT. why isn't Bedminster being searched right now
Link to tweet
bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)and that link may take a while
Rebl2
(13,498 posts)my thinking. Thats why all his homes, buildings havent been searched. They have to prove probable cause.
Escurumbele
(3,389 posts)return them when asked, that he went to his club in NJ where the Saudis were at for a "LIV" golf tournament, that then he went to his apt in NY, that he also flew to his golf club in Scotland with boxes, and last but not least, that the SOB is a traitor and everyone knows it.
That's a good summation.
bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)There exists at this moment based on what we know, zero knowledge of what is actually in those boxes that were seen being moved. Could have been ice cream cone shells. Proof. Proof. Information. Details.
triron
(22,001 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)elias7
(3,997 posts)Solomon
(12,310 posts)going out of their way to avoid it if possible? It will only happen when they are forced to, not because they don't have the proof. By your standard (and some others here on DU) there will never be "proof" or " probable cause" of anything when it comes to Trump.
If they applied your rules and standards to everybody there would be no one, no one in jail for christsakes! Someone else up thread even used the phrase "proof of probable cause" which is ridiculous because the word "probable" has nothing to do with "proof". " Probable "means more likely than not. It does NOT require " proof".
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)wnylib
(21,445 posts)They are not fond of him there and might be happy to cooperate with us.
soldierant
(6,857 posts)wnylib
(21,445 posts)But I was responding to a mention of his property in Scotland as a possible hiding place, too.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Ocelot II
(115,683 posts)is that anything found during a search would likely get tangled up in the Special Master mess. It's a different federal district, but the thing has tentacles and could affect any future searches until it's sorted. Chances are that comings and goings from Bedminster are being watched, though.
BComplex
(8,049 posts)Plenty of $$ in trump's pocket for sold intelligence.
albacore
(2,398 posts)1) The goobers are armed to the teeth and primed for violence if their cult leader is further "harassed".
2) The DOJ and FBI have enough trumper infiltrators that they are gumming up the works.
3) There isn't enough real proof to get a search warrant that will stand up to appeal. The DOJ can't count pictures from an outside source of guys moving boxes as proof.
And they don't want to try for a warrant and fail.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)See post 12 if the reference is not clear. (Post 4 was first)
Escurumbele
(3,389 posts)on the streets carrying guns. Biden is the president now.
2) - They must protect whatever trump took to Scotland with him, or get clues to whom he has sold them to.
3) There is, they found document at mar-a-lago, and he flew to NJ where the Saudis were sponsoring a golf tournament for their new golf tour, then he went to NY, and he also flew to Scotland carrying boxes as Tidriech points out. There is a precedence of the SOB illegally moving boxes from one place to another.
"And they don't want to try for a warrant and fail." This may be the most compelling reason, but they should send someone to investigate without making it obvious he/she is investigating, undercover.
Captain Zero
(6,805 posts)Then bust his ass like he's a pusher.
llashram
(6,265 posts)AG Garland and his staff. No more 2ndguessing from me. They will not let sedition stand, even from an ex-POTUS loser like the marlago-traitor.
bamagal62
(3,256 posts)Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)his other properties last February?
Really, the way tfg blinds people is incomprehensible.
orleans
(34,051 posts)Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)the "aha" moment people seem to be having about the other properties.
It is inconceivable that they didn't make that connection in February, but it seems like this is just occurring to many people now.
agingdem
(7,849 posts)I would include Trump Tower and every property the orange maggot owns I suspect the instant the feds started sniffing around MAL, security cameras went on the blink and documents were removed and transported Trump may be/is a depraved malignant sociopath but hes also a conman he would have no problem trying to put one over on the FBI something to brag about
Rhiannon12866
(205,282 posts)malaise
(268,967 posts)The Slobfather is history
calimary
(81,232 posts)The damage hes done to national security will have repercussions for YEARS.
And he keeps gaming the system EVERY MINUTE he still walks free.
Worst thing to happen to America since the dawn of hate radio and Pox Noise.
KS Toronado
(17,220 posts)put out let's say a million dollar reward and asylum to any Saudi with proof that tfg handed over
Top Secret Documents to the Saudis?
Did any SS agent see what happened at Bedminster with these boxes?
gab13by13
(21,323 posts)will be busy defending Trump(the office) against E. Jeanne Carroll, the lady who Trump is accused of raping in a department store change room.
Have to keep priorities straight.
No, Merrick Garland did not have to take this case, unless an official duty of the president is to defame a woman he is accused of raping.
303squadron
(545 posts)They were already transferred to the Saudis during the LIV tournament there in July!
Farmer-Rick
(10,163 posts)The documents are gone.
If you tell a thief to give you back your stolen goods. Then wait to go get them.....the thief sells them off so you can't find them
What they found at Mara-go-loco wasn't half of it. He took the best stuff to golf with the Saudis.
You would have thought someone from FBI would have been watching though. Guess not.
anarch
(6,535 posts)or possibly traded it for some other obligation he had, in the case of the Russians and/or Saudis.
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Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)The burial next to the golf course was remarked on at the time as bizarre. It remains bizarre.
gab13by13
(21,323 posts)and I would laugh my ass off at the thought of hiding documents in a coffin. Come to think of it, my aunt who lived in Buffalo talked about a certain mafia-associated funeral home where many coffins went out with more than one body, so the rumor goes. It is the perfect hiding place.
Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)Why would they struggle to carry an urn of ashes and an otherwise empty coffin?
Deuxcents
(16,197 posts)I dont think well ever see some of them again.. btw..an awfully big coffin for a cremation 🤬
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)This isn't just criminal it involves the security of the nation.
NBachers
(17,108 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,168 posts)Paper Roses
(7,473 posts)He would hide anything anywhere if he thought was worth $$ and no one would know.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Link to tweet
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Bo Zarts
(25,396 posts)In the lower video it appears that some of the boxes are being carried behind the Citation X(?)'s left wing to the aircraft's external baggage compartment. But some of the boxes, which look like document boxes, are being carried in front of the wing to go inside the passenger cabin of the aircraft.
After flying high-end corporate jets for a number of years, I can tell you that the American aristocracy flying on these magic carpets of speed and luxury do not like cargo or baggage in the plush cabin with them. My guess is that either the boxes going into the cabin were so damn important, or that the aft cargo compartment was full and those boxes were ordered to be carried in the cabin with the passengers ("must-ride" cargo, as it were).
It is inconceivable that the FBI is not already looking at this .. if it is half of what it is purported to be. To wit: Flight Tracker, aircraft logs, pilot logs, pilot interviews, ground support personnel interviews, interviews with people who are identifiable in the video, ATC interviews, airport and ramp surveillance videos, etc, etc.
Joinfortmill
(14,417 posts)calimary
(81,232 posts)It's DAMN HARD to admit you were wrong, much less than you were HAD - by a slicky-boy pathological and well-documented LIAR.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)was hired to record this event. Don't know by whom. Maybe others do by now? Once again, common honest man theory/application. If you were trying to hide the transport of important documents, would you allow it to be filmed? Or, if it's a diversionary move, hire a photographer!!!
Bo Zarts
(25,396 posts)Roger Stone didn't have any problems with it. Go figure!
orleans
(34,051 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)They should probably look for White House silver and foreign gifts that belong to us when they go snatch them.
nowforever
(302 posts)We will have a patriotic informant that steps up and does their duty.
The Bopper
(184 posts)the reason the raid should have occurred a year ago. My guess is Trumps blackmailing the government, telling them the secret stuff will go somewhere harmful if they arrest his fat azz. Occums razor folks.
Joinfortmill
(14,417 posts)Beartracks
(12,809 posts)orleans
(34,051 posts)i thought she was cremated.
ashes are put into an urn.
sure, sometimes people bury the urn in a marked grave.
but i never heard of an urn going into a casket first. that would be redundant redundant
NJCher
(35,662 posts)Were cremations. And yes, some were buried. But of about 7, not a one was an urn in a casket.
On the other hand, trump almost always defies convention.
triron
(22,001 posts)Old Crow
(2,212 posts)Godspeed, FBI. Do your jobs and good luck. An entire nation is depending on you.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)After "presidency". Happened in May 2021 ( no date)
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