We keep hearing about how unprecedented it would be to indict trump

[dsc]

and the bad precedent it would set to do so. I am old enough to remember Bill Clinton. No he wasn't indicted. But that is only because he and Starr came to a deal which suspended his law license and he paid nearly 100k in fines for contempt. Literally no one was whining about him possibly being indicted. And certainly no one was saying that Democrats would engage in revenge and for that reason we should refrain from indicting him. 8 years later, when Obama came to office, even though there certainly was a case worthy of investigation in terms of torture, it was forsworn immediately. Trump should be indicted if we can't get a plea out of him.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-clinton-fined-and-disbarred-over-the-monica-lewinsky-scandal/

[YoshidaYui]

1. I say let's do something completely different

Let’s indict a former president of wrongdoing.

[PJMcK]

14. Right on

Trump is clearly a criminal and a traitor.

Indict him tomorrow morning!

[catbyte]

2. If Ford hadn't pardoned Nixon, this wouldn't be as big of a mess as it is.

That showed that no matter how crooked you are, you won't be held accountable. But at least Nixon can now rest easy knowing he's no longer the most corrupt president in US history.

[PJMcK]

15. Ford paid the price for his stupid pardon

He lost his election. Granted, a democrat was going to win the 1976 election because the country was sick of Nixon. Still, Ford blew his only chance by pardoning Nixon.

As a president, Ford will forever be known as a footnote to history. Pathetic.

[catbyte]

16. But he does have a very nice Presidential Museum in Grand Rapids, Michigan

And we did get a royal welcome in the Soviet Union when my group from college teamed up with some cronies of Jerry Ford in 1976. They wanted to see some exhibit of Etruscan Gold at the Hermitage Museum while we met with government officials and journalists. We were there for the White Nights festival in Leningrad (St. Petersburg) and spent the Bicentennial in Moscow. So I selfishly got something cool from his presidency.

Me in Red Square. Sorry, the pic is a bit faded.

[elleng]

3. Right, and many treatment of B Clinton was payback for hard feelings about 'treatment' of nixon.

[onenote]

4. One minor correction: the deal was cut by Clinton and Robert Ray, Ken Starr's successor

Your point is well taken. Only quibble is that Starr stepped down as special counsel in 1998. The deal to avoid indictment was reached just as Clinton was about to leave office in January 2021 with Robert Ray.

[dsc]

5. You're quite right

I forgot that Starr had quit.

[emulatorloo]

9. And then Starr moved on to Baylor and helped cover for rapists.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ken-starr-resigns-baylor_n_574f0eabe4b0eb20fa0c6a8b

Ken Starr Resigns As Baylor Chancellor Amid Football Rape Scandal
Starr, the university's president until last week, is stepping down as a "matter of conscience."

Kim Bellware
Jun 1, 2016, 12:46 PM EDT

[Ferrets are Cool]

6. No, what was unprecedented was to have a fucking criminal in the WH.

[Generic Brad]

7. But a one man presidential crime wave is not unprecedented?

Trump would not be in danger of being indicted if he had not been such an extreme liar/thief/traitor/Russian sleeper agent/con man/etc.

[Emile]

8. We have a traitorous ex president. He must

be held accountable.

[GreenWave]

10. Other countries do it.

They do not have revenge imvestigations as our Traitor pachyderms do.

[Pathwalker]

11. There's no history of anything happening until it does.

And then there is. A line from the movie Volcano says it well.

[Retrograde]

12. There's a first time for everything (n/t)

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

13. The shit Trump did was unprecedented