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Did Biden's visit to Saudi Arabia have anything to do with dropping gas prices? (Original Post) LAS14 Sep 2022 OP
He made them an offer they couldn't refuse... asiliveandbreathe Sep 2022 #1
Sorry, I don't get it. nt LAS14 Sep 2022 #3
From the scene of the horses head under the blankets from the Godfather.. asiliveandbreathe Sep 2022 #7
Ah. nt LAS14 Sep 2022 #8
I read somewhere they're cracking more diesel and fuel at this time of year and a byproduct is gas bucolic_frolic Sep 2022 #2
"They" meaning the Saudi's? And related to Biden's trip?? nt LAS14 Sep 2022 #4
Uh, no, it was said in relation to domestic refiners, I think bucolic_frolic Sep 2022 #5
Maybe he told MsB Samrob Sep 2022 #6
No. Lunabell Sep 2022 #9
I believe he requested SA to increase production TexasBushwhacker Sep 2022 #10
Post removed Post removed Sep 2022 #11
No. But if the MAGATs are going to blame Biden for the high prices, we should claim he caused them onenote Sep 2022 #12
OPEC will cut down on production to keep price of oil up. Pompoy Sep 2022 #13
The refining margins had gone way up Pompoy Sep 2022 #14
Documents usonian Sep 2022 #15
The price of gas in my area (Phoenix) is up 40 cents a gallon in the last two weeks. former9thward Sep 2022 #16

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
7. From the scene of the horses head under the blankets from the Godfather..
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 08:11 PM
Sep 2022

Saudis love horses...

remember that classic scene from The Godfather where the movie producer Jack Woltz wakes up with a horse’s head in his bed.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,232 posts)
10. I believe he requested SA to increase production
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 08:56 PM
Sep 2022

and they agreed to, but they're pretty much maxed out. Demand from China is soft because they still have a major battle with COVID-19. The cost of a barrel of oil peaked at about $122 about 3 months ago, and now it's gone down a third to a little over $80. Since the cost of crude oil accounts for about 54% of the cost of a gallon of gas, such a drop in oil prices does have a major impact. A gallon of gas that costs $5 would drop by 90 cents.

But I think there's more going on, because other than taxes, there's the nebulous cost of "refining, distribution, marketing and profits" which, on average, accounts for about 35%. Where I am, gasoline has gone from around $4.50 to $3 or less, even from name brand gas. That kind of drop cannot be accounted for just by the drop in crude oil prices.

I think the oil companies got greedy for a while because they are ultimately the ones who set the price. They did it for as long as they could, because they knew that people would blame it on Biden. But they're all public companies and have to publish their quarterly profits, so when those were breaking records, the jig was up.

Response to LAS14 (Original post)

onenote

(42,821 posts)
12. No. But if the MAGATs are going to blame Biden for the high prices, we should claim he caused them
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 09:39 PM
Sep 2022

to go down.

Pompoy

(124 posts)
13. OPEC will cut down on production to keep price of oil up.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 10:23 PM
Sep 2022

Just announced it a couple of days ago. They aren't being helpful. Maybe demand slowed because of high prices.

Pompoy

(124 posts)
14. The refining margins had gone way up
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 10:42 PM
Sep 2022

It wasn't just the cost of oil that increased the price of gas. The refinery margins had gone up at least fourfold.
Although a lot of it had to do that a lot of them had gone off line recently due to hurricanes damage and companies not willing to invest in anticipation of electric vehicles being a bigger piece of the car market.

usonian

(9,937 posts)
15. Documents
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 10:54 PM
Sep 2022


If he ever wanted to play golf again, MBS had to fess up to having them and hand them back.

former9thward

(32,121 posts)
16. The price of gas in my area (Phoenix) is up 40 cents a gallon in the last two weeks.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 11:12 PM
Sep 2022

The Saudi's did not increase any production. They were running 100% anyway.

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