Nyt ..publicly funded Hasidic religious schools teaching nothing by design..particularly to boys.

[Demovictory9]

In Hasidic Enclaves, Failing Private Schools Flush With Public Money
New York’s Hasidic Jewish religious schools have benefited from $1 billion in government funding in the last four years but are unaccountable to outside oversight.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/11/nyregion/hasidic-yeshivas-schools-new-york.html


Students at nearly a dozen other schools run by the Hasidic community recorded similarly dismal outcomes that year, a pattern that under ordinary circumstances would signal an education system in crisis. But where other schools might be struggling because of underfunding or mismanagement, these schools are different. They are failing by design.


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Nearly three dozen current and former teachers across the state’s Hasidic yeshivas said most of the thousands of boys who passed through their classrooms over the years left school without learning to speak English fluently, let alone read or write at grade level.

Another former teacher provided hundreds of pages of work sheets from the past five years that showed that 12-year-olds — in their last year of English instruction — could not spell words like “cold” and “America.” One boy, in response to a prompt about what he liked, wrote: “To cee wen somone pente.”



The result, a New York Times investigation has found, is that generations of children have been systematically denied a basic education, trapping many of them in a cycle of joblessness and dependency.

Segregated by gender, the Hasidic system fails most starkly in its more than 100 schools for boys. Spread across Brooklyn and the lower Hudson Valley, the schools turn out thousands of students each year who are unprepared to navigate the outside world, helping to push poverty rates in Hasidic neighborhoods to some of the highest in New York.

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Excellent long long article..includes teen realizing the limits of the education when he can't hold a job because they can't read or write

[Dorian Gray]

1. That article was fantastic

it's been an open secret that many of these yeshivas under-educate the children that they are responsible for, especially the boys. The boys are prepped to be religious/rabbis, so they get religious training primarily. Girls fare better, but they still under-educate them.

It's a way to keep the population from assimilating into american society, which benefits the power structures in those communities.

What I find interesting is in response to the article, there are some charges of anti-semitism toward the NYT for reporting on this issue. (Primarily from Hasidic groups.) I can see where some of this reporting can be warped into using for anti-semitic tropes, but the reality is that under-educating children is bad for those children. And they're doing it while using public resources, which is bad for society.

When we see inner-city schools failing the children they serve, we RIGHTFULLY get angry about it. When we see red-state cities ignoring the needs of their constituents (see Jackson, MS), we feel rightful rage. This is the same thing. These private schools are using public resources to maintain a status quo that hurts children and society as a whole.

I appreciate the yeshivas who started state testing and the Rabbis who are cooperating to improve standards. There are a number of them. More people in their community should speak out and demand the same.

[Demovictory9]

2. Some of these communities have voted their folks control of the public school system contained

Within their neighborhood..so they essentially.control the education of black brown non Hasidic kids..
They are using that power to terminate music and other optional stuff

Saw a documentary about it.

Like rich folks controlling the public school boards when their kids go to private

[dlk]

3. If the students are't being taught rudimentary reading and writing,

Wouldn’t this be a gross misuse of public funds, or even fraud? Can funding to these schools be reduced or cut altogether?

[Dorian Gray]

4. Yeah

I think that's why the article was written.

There was an organization (OJPAC) that pushed back A LOT on the reporting yesterday, but it was one I had never heard of before.

Adams doesn't seem to want to address this. He's going to get some pushback.

[dlk]

6. I'm not a fan of Adams

I think New York would have done better with someone else.

[Dorian Gray]

8. I'm feeling the same way

unfortunately. still hopeful. It was ranked choice, and he wasn't in my top 5. I was a Kathryn Garcia voter, primarily, and am still bummed she didn't win out.

[maxsolomon]

5. Made it halfway through, had to stop. Infuriating.

My heart goes out to these poor kids. When they try to leave their community, many can barely speak English.

[MagickMuffin]

7. Theses "schools" should be forced to repay our government

Why is the government funding these religious schools?

Only public schools should be funded. Funding religious schools by the government definitely obscures the Separation of Church and State.


If these religious schools want to teach outside of the government public schools then let them foot the bill and quit looking for a handout from our government.