Can A Case Be Made To Commit Tr**p?....

[global1]

If it holds that a former president can't be indicted - can a former president be committed?

He is certainly delusional. He lives in his own little world (his head).

Would a sane former president think he won in 2020?

He still thinks he's president and tries to act out the part.

Just asking!!!

[Montauk6]

1. Maybe I'm too cynical...

I have a sneaking suspicion he's no crazier than Vin The Chin.

[Ocelot II]

2. He has all manner of personality disorders but he's not insane

in a sense that would either get him committed or result in a successful insanity plea. Commitment requires evidence that a person poses an immediate threat of serious bodily harm to others or himself; an insanity defense requires the defendant to not understand the nature of his acts or else not realize that they are wrong. In either case the person has to be flagrantly mentally ill (e.g., schizophrenic). TFG is a malignant narcissist but he's not insane.

[Chainfire]

3. Only if some judge believes he is a danger to himself or others.

I don't think being a danger to Democracy counts.

[dem4decades]

4. Why commit him, give him his own country for him and his followers and call it Trumptown.

And let them buy Kool-aid.

[grumpyduck]

5. I would not want him committed.

That would force some poor overworked underpaid shrink to put up with him, on and on, for years. Not to mention the attendants and other staff.

I don't know if Gitmo has shrinks, but I kinda doubt it.

[Karadeniz]

6. I don't think he truly believes he won. He followed Bannon's lead in announcing he'd won, but he's

lied all his life and he knows it. He has no inner sense of self, only what outside sources project as him. At Trump Org, every day his secy brought him all newspaper, media coverage on him. That's how he knew what he was. OK to lie about his real estate when actually it was his father's. OK to lie to Forbes about his net worth, as long as it was printed. OK to steal from his niece if she didn't know. OK to pay someone to take his SAT, as long as it was in his name. Officials had to look like they came from central casting, not knowledge or experience. He knows the truth, he knows he's a lying nothing. He doesn't care, as long as rally attendees see him as strong. Trump is an extreme example of a Mind fed only survival and ego energy, both brain based. There is no soul energy to prick some thinking about his materialism, his greed, his lack of respect for truth or the welfare of others. But he knows, so his life is a constant struggle to create a lie he can get others to believe in.

[Goonch]

7. FLORIDA MENTAL HEALTH ACT--INVOLUNTARY HOSPITALIZATION

SUMMARY:

A circuit court judge may order a patient involuntarily hospitalized at a private psychiatric facility not under contract with the State of Florida pursuant to ss. 394.451-394.478, F. S., provided the patient meets the statutory criteria for involuntary hospitalization, the facility has been approved by the Department of Health and Rehabilitative Services, and the cost of treatment is to be borne by the patient, if he is competent, or by his guardian if the patient is incompetent.

When state funds are to be expended for involuntary hospitalization of a patient in a private psychiatric facility, such facility must be under a contract with the state.


The expressed intent of the legislature in enacting Part I of Ch. 394, F. S. (commonly referred to as the "Baker Act&quot , regarding involuntary hospitalization was to insure that involuntary hospitalization is provided only when expert evaluation determines that it is necessary. Section 8, Ch. 73-133, Laws of Florida [s. 394.467], establishes the criteria for involuntary hospitalization:

&quot 1) CRITERIA. -- A person may be involuntarily hospitalized if he is mentally ill and because of his illness is:
(a) Likely to injure himself or others if allowed to remain at liberty, or
(b) In need of care or treatment and lacks sufficient capacity to make a responsible application on his own behalf."

In order for a patient to be hospitalized involuntarily there must exist the probability of injury to himself or others resulting from his mental illness, or the patient must lack sufficient capacity to seek care or treatment on his own behalf.

Before a patient can be involuntarily hospitalized in a treatment center, notice and a hearing must be provided. Section 8, Ch. 73-133, Laws of Florida [394.467(2), F. S.]. Although the hearing may be waived in writing by the patient, the recommendation for involuntary hospitalization must be supported by the opinions of two physicians who have personally examined the patient within the preceding five days stating that the criteria for involuntary hospitalization are met. To the extent that the patient referred to in your letter meets the statutory requirements for involuntary hospitalization, such patient may be involuntarily hospitalized under s. 8, Chapter 73-133.

Under the amended s. 394.455, F. S., jurisdiction for adjudication under the "Baker Act" lies with the judge of the circuit court. Section 1, Ch. 73-133, Laws of Florida, states:

&quot 21) 'Court,' unless otherwise specified, means the circuit court.
(22) 'Judge,' unless otherwise specified, means the judge of the circuit court, or the judge designated to act under this act by the chief judge of a circuit."..........................

http://www.myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/D1585305590E3923852566B30057BD86

[emulatorloo]

8. He's not crazy. he's a liar, a con-man, and a thug. He knows he lost.

[Fiendish Thingy]

9. Faulty premise

It does not hold that a former president can’t be indicted.

Committing someone is far more difficult than indicting them.