Andrew Weissmann on Cannon's infuriating decision

[highplainsdem]

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[rubbersole]

1. Leonard Leo didn't groom her for tiddly winks...

[erronis]

16. Winks, yes. Tiddly, yes. Being a jurist, NO.

[Sneederbunk]

25. Is that Fat Leonard?

[rubbersole]

26. He might be fat.

He's fat with power. He runs the Federalist Society and built the present Supreme Court. He was just given $1.6bln in not so dark money to continue building his 17th century kingdom.

[BigmanPigman]

3. Oh, I didn't know that.

[emulatorloo]

6. Dunno, seems like his characterization of Cannon is valid. She's just making up stuff as it goes

along. Time for DOJ to go over her head and appeal.

[Eyeball_Kid]

29. I would have expected that they made the appeal immediately after Cannon's ruling. n/t

[highplainsdem]

9. See this 2019 NBC News article for what it says about Weissmann, who was on

Mueller's team:

https://nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/meet-mueller-s-team-best-prosecutors-business-or-angry-democrats-n976226

[emulatorloo]

13. Thanks for posting.

[emulatorloo]

14. Thanks for posting.

[Gaugamela]

4. If DOJ simply indicts Trump for theft of the documents they obtained in May, I think

(I’m not a lawyer) that would move the case to D.C. and take it out of the 11th circuit. A new judge could make a separate determination.

Again, I’m not a lawyer so I’m just winging it here.

[Fiendish Thingy]

11. The docs seized in the August warrant are key to proving knowledge and intent

To prosecute the Espionage Act violations, as well as proving obstruction.

The documents turned over earlier could be prosecuted in DC under the PRA, but not likely obstruction or espionage.

[emulatorloo]

20. +1

[gab13by13]

12. It sounds good to me,

the way it's going this will go on for months. may as well let Trump keep the documents and move on. I thought that DOJ would challenge the jurisdiction of this case also, too late now.

[Fiendish Thingy]

18. Hardly too late

They couldn’t appeal until Cannon had ruled- now they can appeal both the ruling and the jurisdiction.

We shall see tomorrow.

[ShazzieB]

28. Oh, it's good to know that they can still appeal both!

Will keep my fingers crossed! 🤞🤞🤞🤞

[Eyeball_Kid]

30. My understanding is that the PRA directs any cases against the Act

to the DC Court. Why the DOJ is fiddling with a tainted judge is something the marvel. They don't have to.

[Gaugamela]

34. That's it. I think I saw either Glenn Kirschner or Ben Meiselas making this point.

I think it would put the whole thing in a DC court.

[FBaggins]

37. That argument has been made multiple times, but doesn't really make sense

The PRA does not direct cases "against the act" to the DC court.

It directs cases that arise as presidential (or former) appeals of decisions made by the archives re: the release of certain records.

But NARA hasn't received any requests to release documents - let alone made a decision on same - let alone had a former president disagree with that determination and bring suit.

[Cha]

8. We knew cannon was "in the TANK"..

Anxious to hear what DOJ is going to DO About it!

TY & Anderw Weissman

[emulatorloo]

17. see ' Judge Cannon Deems Grand Jury Subpoenas Toilet Paper' for more good analysis.

Happily DOJ was already planning to appeal to the 11th circuit , they know what judge Cannon is.

Good piece from Emptywheel on her horrible ruling today:

Judge Cannon Deems Grand Jury Subpoenas Toilet Paper
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217161767

[Cha]

19. Mahalo.. I just posted

on your thread..

[emulatorloo]

21. ...

hope you’re doing well!

[Cha]

23. This Brainwormed Cannon is

Pissing me OFF!

otherwise hanging in there! Good to see you posting.. so much Fascism to Fight for those who Want to SAVE Our DEMOCRACY!

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. I expect DOJ will appeal to the 11th circuit by tomorrow

The Special Master isn’t getting his hands on those classified documents anytime soon.

[gab13by13]

15. Neither is the FBI,

[rubbersole]

22. They've already been through them...

The special master bullshit gives the media something to chew on. It is important, but the treasonous crime is tfg having them in the first place. We're waiting on his reason - other than "I needed the money" - which is looking like the winner at this point.

[gab13by13]

35. Not according to our intelligence agencies,

they claim they are stymied because they need to work with the FBI. This has nothing to do with media overreaction, it has to do with our national security.

[rubbersole]

40. It is national security and beyond dangerous. You are right.

This latest batch of documents, only after a search warrant, is the third batch the feds obtained. They were in the possession of the FBI for a couple of weeks before tfg's lackey judge said they needed another layer of supervision. They let the press know the number of secret documents and their level of classification the first week. The FBI might not be sharing the whole batch because of the court order. I can't imagine that the real sensitive/spy endangering stuff didn't hit Homeland Security immediately. The subpoenaed video of the room where tfg stashed all this stolen shit prompted the search warrant. What did the feds see on the video that made them quit acting nice? Treason crumbs leading to his lair? Let America know before the midterms.

Hit 'em straight tomorrow!

[Ford_Prefect]

24. I bet Hannity knows what's in them.

[Eyeball_Kid]

36. Anything goes. Hannity thinks he's got some inside track on Trump's maneuverings.

What he's seemingly not aware of is that Trump will lie to Hannity. In a heartbeat. If Hannity doesn't get his grubby mitts on the documents and read them with his own eyes, he won't know for sure, because Trump would NEVER tell anyone the truth about anything. There would always be a lie in his most sincere confessions, if any ever happens. It's an inexorable part of his narcissism. It's WHO HE IS.

Why doesn't Hannity know this?

[Ford_Prefect]

38. Hannity is just like Trump, a narcissistic personality whose ego demands that he is the center

and the measure of the universe.

[AverageOldGuy]

27. Will DOJ . . .

. . . appeal to the 11th Circuit? I assume they will and let's hope the Circuit applies good sense and facts and slaps down this Trump judge.

[emulatorloo]

31. Yes. See this DU thread:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217161939

[triron]

32. Can you give any insight on this?

[Rhiannon12866]

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[AllaN01Bear]

39. i wonder if he contacted her and threatend her.?