I do not believe this can be overstated.

[fightforfreedom]

When it comes to all the investigations into Trumps crimes, many people are talking. Witnesses have come forward. We don't know who is talking, we don't know all the people who have testified before the Grand Juries.

The DOJ, prosecutors in Georgia, most likely have a lot more evidence than we know about. Far too many people were involved in all of Trumps crimes. We are talking about scores of people, perhaps hundreds. The fake electors alone involve scores of people. It is not going to be difficult for prosecutors to find witnesses, people who will make plea deals and tell all.

When the indictments start flying, a lot more canaries will start singing.

[Irish_Dem]

1. The evidence isn't the problem.

We know there is enough to indict and convict.

What is not known: does this country have the will to go after Trump.

Will the rule of law hold?
Will justice be served?

[fightforfreedom]

2. They are not investigating for the hell of it. They are going after Trump.

Many people are going to indicted. If they have enough evidence to indict Trump, they will.

[Claustrum]

3. I think they have enough evidence to indict TFG.

But I think they are waiting to finish their investigations and sack TFG with numerous indictments. There are a lot of people that suggests to indict TFG now and we can add onto the indictment later. But I don't think that works because we are dealing with a former president, and one that is very very good manipulating public opinion. How many times have we thought this is going to get TFG and it ends up a dud? So personally, I think the DoJ only have one chance that they have to make that stick. It's way better to hand him 20 indictments with all the crimes he had committed than one that he can focus on on Fox Noise to change the narrative in his favor. He might be able to change the tune on one indictment but he is not getting out of 20 indictments.

[fightforfreedom]

4. You may be right.

One thing is for sure. He is facing 3 major criminal investigations and he is no longer president. He lost all the protections he had as president.

[Patterson]

12. Judge Cannon would disagree.

[fightforfreedom]

14. Who cares what that idiot thinks.

She can delay for a short period of time and that will be the end of her bullshit. I hope the special master does his job quickly, which may happen.

[Irish_Dem]

20. It matters because she represents the federal judiciary.

And we are finding out how corrupt it is.

[relayerbob]

8. Agreed, and they want to nail his co-conspirators

many of whom are in Congress, and other positions of authority. This has to be done almost perfectly.

[Irish_Dem]

19. There has to be a way to dissuade those in the future helping a criminal president.

[Irish_Dem]

18. I agree, the longer the list of crimes, the better.

It will make more of an impact on the American public.

[Joinfortmill]

25. I agree. Shock him. Shock the country. Shock the world.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

30. I don't think you can list all his crimes, let alone investigate all of them before the sun goes out

[Claustrum]

35. True. But there are a few big ones going on.

Handing out 20 indictments across the stealing secret documents case, GA fake electors plot, and NY tax fraud case at the same time will make a much bigger impact than one indictment at a time. Also, I truly believe the DoJ only has one chance to nail TFG. So having 20 indictments is much better than just having one.

[Irish_Dem]

17. Yes 100% chance some people will be indicted. Probability for Trump is much lower.

But I suppose it is enough if Trump's co-conspirators go to jail, that will be a lesson to anyone in the future
who wants to help a criminal president.

[Duppers]

5. 👍 That's it in a nut shell.

[barbtries]

6. exactly.

justice delayed is justice denied. now with this judge bending over backward to get him off under the color of her post? I'm in a very discouraged mood today. Can't look at the news because my frustration level is over the top.

i am so sick and tired of this dicking around. He's committed dozens, hundreds of crimes. He's compromised the national security and conspired with enemies. He incited an insurrection. WTF else do you need?! Every day more damage is done.

[Evolve Dammit]

11. Agree 100%. It enables more of the same. Weakness perceived or real leads to further transgressions

[Irish_Dem]

26. Yes. Trump is going to feel more and more invincible that longer this drags on.

[GreenWave]

10. I believe so Irish Dem

We choose to imprison our corrupt #45 not because it is easy,
but because it is hard!

[Joinfortmill]

28. Amen to that

[Irish_Dem]

34. If we do not indict Trump, then we have rejected the rule of law. And justice.

So what do we have left then?

[PufPuf23]

16. It not just Trump, this goes much deeper.

The evil is flooding the zone and overcoming our systems' ability to respond, not to forget our legal and national security systems are infiltrated and degraded.

Sometimes I worry that all that is coming out in public discussion, particularly on the corporate media, confuses or distracts as much as enlightens the great majority of citizens.

[Irish_Dem]

31. Trump has been a one man audit on the entire US government.

And the results are staggering.

It is overwhelming. And how many of the American people even understand what is happening?
The media obviously wants to cover it all up.

[Joinfortmill]

24. We have the will. The other two are not so certain.

[relayerbob]

7. Agreed, this is incredibly complex

Makes Watergate look like a kindergarten class.

As you say, hundreds of people involved in some capacity, and dozens just in the stealing classified documents part, not counting the selling of said documents, Jan 6, and voter fraud/manipulation. WAY more evidence has been collected and is being analyzed than we can even imagine, and much of is classified so we'll never actually know all of what it was. The special master stuff is a distraction, and while annoying, isn't really likely to affect things all that much in the long run. They have a LOT to work with. They want to get as many that were involved as possible, and they need an absolutely airtight case, as DoJ can NOT result in an acquittal or mistrial.

So, remain patient, this takes time, REAL time.

[Joinfortmill]

29. Yup. Biden knew what he was doing when he chose Garland. It will be air tight.

[relayerbob]

38. 100% agreed

[grantcart]

9. Not an attorney and didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night but GA is a class by itself

1) We have the recording of the call. Trump is very clever in not having emails or notes, etc. In this case we have his words on tape.

2) As I understand it the GA election interference law doesn't require proof of intent which makes it much easier.


The disclosure earlier that early on the Meadows was saying that the documents were clippings is intended to lay the foundation for Trump to be able to say "I don't know anything from anything, I was told that they were harmless news clippings".

[fightforfreedom]

13. They found documents in Trumps desk so the excuse I didn't know anything will not work.

Trump has no defense in the secret document case.

[relayerbob]

15. It's much bigger than just Trump

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. Early canaries get a chunk of suet. Late canaries get stale seed, if anything. . . . nt

[Justice matters.]

22. Budgets to build new prisons will have to increase.

It will create a lot of new constructions jobs!

[Joinfortmill]

23. TickTock

[mjvpi]

27. It's the Bill Barrs and Mike Pences that just can't be allowed to walk away from this.

They new about the coup before it failed. They said nothing publicly as it was developing. They shouldn’t escape scrutiny and legal consequences.

[Joinfortmill]

33. I hear you, but Trump is the main meal.

[mjvpi]

36. I will share the popcorn with you. Trump must be taken away.

There are people in the Republican Party that continue to tolerate Trump for personal gain. I see them as our real problem. They will back a DeSantis presidential run. Trump can go away but the root problem remains. Trump is the GOP’s GOTV. He’ll continue to be even when he is indicted. The parts of the GOP that uses the MAGATs as an ignorant, reliable blunt instrument scare the hell out of me. Trump in prison will be almost better for them at this point.

[mjvpi]

37. I will share the popcorn with you. Trump must be taken away.

There are people in the Republican Party that continue to tolerate Trump for personal gain. I see them as our real problem. They will back a DeSantis presidential run. Trump can go away but the root problem remains. Trump is the GOP’s GOTV. He’ll continue to be even when he is indicted. The parts of the GOP that uses the MAGATs as an ignorant, reliable blunt instrument scare the hell out of me. Trump in prison will be almost better for them at this point.

[johnnyfins]

32. I don't give a shit about fat nixon doing jail time

I just want him banned from holding any public office

[TeamProg]

39. Well, that IS the IDEA, yes? n/t

[Scrivener7]

40. Any time now would be great.