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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMilitary progress in East Ukraine
After a week of mopping up and progressing north to the rashist border in Kharkiv, the UAF are beginning to make progress going east. The Oskil River would have been a natural line of defense but the rashists fled farther east away from Ukraine artillery. Ukraine forces have crossed the river and are making progress, a major accomplishment.
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The geolocation DefMon refers to matching photos from the front to known locations from something like Google Earth.
And a bit more from @defmon3, who knows his stuff:
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And some important thoughts from warmonitor3:
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Irish_Dem
(47,054 posts)Since they have been leaving so much behind as they retreat.
And their men are hungry and demoralized.
The Ukrainians are going to need some time to rest, re-group and re-arm.
Tired troops start making mistakes.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Ukraine has many more soldiers under arms than the rashists.
Irish_Dem
(47,054 posts)Obviously Tom you are interested in the war, and have read and know more than I do.
I have been reading about the last week in Ukraine, the spectacular strategic, tactical, psychological war
the Ukrainians have been waging.
It occurred to me as I have been reading about all of this, perhaps the US is providing more than
weapons? We know there was help locating the Russian generals who were killed.
But is the US doing more than we know about?
I am trying to add it all up.
And I keep coming back to that thought.
What recent combat experience do the Ukrainians have to pull this off?
Of course not to take away from their brilliance, courage and home ground defense attitude.
Spectacular strategic, tactical and psych-ops assistance points to the Pentagon?
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)With commercial satellite pictures you can identify buildings and trucks. The military stuff is probably even higher quality. So yes, we are providing a lot of targeting info, combined with Ukraine people every where who are risking their lives to provide valuable Intel to the UAF.
Irish_Dem
(47,054 posts)So it is more than just intel.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)General Staff to ensure it could succeed.
Irish_Dem
(47,054 posts)That is what I have suspected is happening.
Didn't read about it, just guessed this must be the case.
Oh I would love to be a fly on the wall during those sessions.
Absolutely fascinating.
Of course it is all highly classified.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)2014. Everyone served a year in the military. They had a lot of experienced man and women who were called up to serve and.have been training in the west.
They also had training with US forces for years right up to the beginning of the year until the US pulled out.
Irish_Dem
(47,054 posts)Their generals know our generals, and all the ranks down the line.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)local intelligence gathering, where Ukrainians are exploiting every resource, from reports coming in from local partisans, to creative spying on Russian phones and embedded metadata, to drones (and more) combined with and extraordinary amount to real-time intelligence from the US and other NATO partners.
UKR has an unprecedented picture of where Putin's forces are and now they have guided weapons that can hit those coordinates.
This is hugely advantageous.
Red Mountain
(1,733 posts)NATO aircraft (manned and unmanned) can 'see' a long way into the war zone while staying safe either above NATO countries or in international airspace.
Real time targeting data is golden.
Must be driving the Russians crazy.
paleotn
(17,913 posts)The problem for the Ukrainians is lack of training and lack of kit. The later is where we come in. Defending the homeland makes the former go a lot faster. They're more than a little motivated.
paleotn
(17,913 posts)Natural barrier to rally behind. Not enough rallied troops and reserves to defend dicey river crossings? Or a case of "striking while the iron is hot" with panic and disorganization still rife among the Russian units in their front. Taking advantage of opportunities as they're presented vs. over extension? I hope the former.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Mopar151
(9,983 posts)Gives the Ukrainian Army a reach advantage like Larry Holmes! "We run around like headless chickens, the officers are drunk, and they're finishing their coffee before they hit FIRE!" Alleged phone interception from the East side of the line..
Packed up and truck in' before the rounds hit!