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PCIntern

(25,541 posts)
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 08:11 AM Sep 2022

Here's something interesting about MSNBC:

I am in a location wherein there is no advertising on the television. Of course, I am watching MSNBC fairly continuously when I am in my room, and I did not realize that they have a stock MSNBC promo which runs during the break time and although it has Several segments, the segments are of a given length so that no matter what the length of the commercial break is, a portion of the series of the segments run in its entirety.

After 10 days of seeing this ad I am hypnotized and can recite the entire ad verbatim from memory. The only thing that bothers me about other than its incessant repetition is that they have one segment wherein the Morning Joe panel criticizes President Biden for his “lack of movement” on the racial issue during the voting rights act battle. Of all segments to pick, why the heck did they pick that one criticizing the president? Trying to show objectivity?. The reason I remember this is that I had posted at the time that Jonathan Lemire was the pivot man on this angry discussion criticizing Biden, whose hands were tied by the senate.

It was very discordant moment which I had to relive about 1850 times at least in the last 10 days.

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Here's something interesting about MSNBC: (Original Post) PCIntern Sep 2022 OP
There's a solution to this problem; change the channel or turn off the TV brooklynite Sep 2022 #1
Radical enough Sep 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author enough Sep 2022 #3
I knew that was coming. PCIntern Sep 2022 #4
clockwork obamanut2012 Sep 2022 #10
Just mute it and read a book while its there, you don't have to deprive yourself of watching Escurumbele Sep 2022 #17
It's an insidious form of influence. Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #5
Yes, you're correct. happy feet Sep 2022 #8
Or do something more positive: write to MSNBC and complain MerryHolidays Sep 2022 #6
I don't think it is a good solution. Dustlawyer Sep 2022 #16
That's what Rebl2 Sep 2022 #22
Enjoy your cruise ! Gilbert Moore Sep 2022 #7
Well, watching online, the repetition of commercials is pretty annoying, too William Seger Sep 2022 #9
Skyriziiiiiiiiiii........... gag Celerity Sep 2022 #11
I dislike commercials also. I have a dvr and record an interesting show and start watching mitch96 Sep 2022 #19
That was another gift of DENVERPOPS Sep 2022 #25
For the first time ever in 18 years PCIntern Sep 2022 #26
Thank you PC DENVERPOPS Sep 2022 #28
Fortunately I had the option of watching Aussie Rules Football! Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2022 #12
counter-left advertising might draw in some right-leaning viewers bucolic_frolic Sep 2022 #13
It is not information, it is infotainment. Paddy Chayefsky made that abundantly clear. Ford_Prefect Sep 2022 #15
You can't just drop a name like that without a link... hunter Sep 2022 #21
Thank you for the exposition and the quote. I rather thought the reference was clear enough. Ford_Prefect Sep 2022 #24
Bothsiderism is when the media sells its cynicism and hate for its audience to the highest bidder. jaxexpat Sep 2022 #14
Aside from the Joe part, Sling has the same thing underpants Sep 2022 #18
Your forced hypnotization by repetitive commercial Xavier Breath Sep 2022 #20
Sounds like you are on a cruise ship. Sneederbunk Sep 2022 #23
Hmmmm. PCIntern Sep 2022 #27
Of all the complaints about MSNBC commercials, yours is the first to actually analyze them this way Hekate Sep 2022 #29
All the examples on these commercials PCIntern Sep 2022 #30

Response to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
17. Just mute it and read a book while its there, you don't have to deprive yourself of watching
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 09:54 AM
Sep 2022

whatever you want to watch.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
16. I don't think it is a good solution.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 09:29 AM
Sep 2022

The MSM is spewing propaganda to manipulate viewer’s attitudes. Big advertisers (who are also big donors) control media content with the leverage of their ad dollars. Lots of stories we never hear of because they were told not to report them. I saw this first hand during the BP oil spill. It happened in the McDonalds coffee case with Stella Liebeck as well. It goes on daily on all major networks. Fox of course carries it to the extreme, but they all do it.

We need to focus on this along with campaign finance if we ever hope to get real change.

Gilbert Moore

(218 posts)
7. Enjoy your cruise !
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 08:37 AM
Sep 2022

Have a great time and know you'll miss those obnoxious promo's once you are a landlubber again.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
9. Well, watching online, the repetition of commercials is pretty annoying, too
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 08:48 AM
Sep 2022

I may be on the verger of a psychotic incident if I hear that "nothing is everything" jingle again.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
19. I dislike commercials also. I have a dvr and record an interesting show and start watching
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 09:57 AM
Sep 2022

about ½ hour after the start or the next day. I then fast forward thru the commercials. I see a pattern also. Most if not all one hour tv shows are in reality only 40 mins of content. The other 20 min is commercials. YMMV

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DENVERPOPS

(8,817 posts)
25. That was another gift of
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 10:52 AM
Sep 2022

the HWBush/Cheney administration, sometime called the Reagan Administration......It was 12 minutes by law, and they changed it to 20 minutes.

A lot like the usury interest rates on loans were 12% when they came into power, then they jumped it to a maximum of 24%.
Cute huh,

For an encore, when they came into power ALL interest paid was tax deductible. Charge cards, Auto loans, etc etc etc
They changed that and made only Mortgage Interest deductible.

Then they increased the 7.5% mandatory deduction to SSI to 15%. The federal budget showed a huge increase in tax revenue, so they gave the largest tax cut in the history of the nation to the uber wealthy and corporations.......

I could go on and on, but you get the idea. Believe me, there were dozens of other subtle and not so subtle things, all brought to you by HWBush/Cheney for twelve years, and then don't forget the W/Cheney regime for another 8 years.....

Also, let us not forget the first TREASONOUS acts were committed by HW/Cheney to win the election from Carter, and then again with the IRAN/Contra bullshit they pulled..........

This shit we are seeing now is nothing new, it has just been AMPED up by a factor of 1,000 as they have mastered their techniques....

DENVERPOPS

(8,817 posts)
28. Thank you PC
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:17 AM
Sep 2022

I became hyperactive politically a couple of months before the Reagan/Carter debacle.

Ever since, I have been screaming from the roof tops about the Republicans destroying the middle class in big chunks.

I cannot fathom the huge numbers of Dems that have just "awakened" to what they have done and are doing......

About time. We are a millimeter away from a Corporate Fascist Tyranny, the Republican's aim all along......

Most interesting to me, is the common factor through all of it was: HWBUSH...............and his band of merry minions....

The only thing I admire about Cheney's daughter is that she finally realized what the Republican Party and her own father brought down upon the USA, starting with the total destruction of the Middle Class..........

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
13. counter-left advertising might draw in some right-leaning viewers
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 09:12 AM
Sep 2022

though in polarized media, the duty to inform is a low priority

Ford_Prefect

(7,895 posts)
15. It is not information, it is infotainment. Paddy Chayefsky made that abundantly clear.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 09:19 AM
Sep 2022

A little bit of selected fact delivered with a whole bunch of emotionalized cheerleading. It is often not what is said nor how it is edited. All too frequently it is what is NOT said and who is not heard from.

They sell a lot of cereal, soap, insecurity and sentiment that way. P.T. Barnum was credited with "always leave them wanting more". He knew a thing or two about keeping an audience.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
21. You can't just drop a name like that without a link...
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 10:12 AM
Sep 2022


"I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!"

From Chayefsky's movie Network

Chayefsky believed that television news desensitized viewers to violence and murder, and he was shocked one day when a respected news anchorman "rattled off inanities." He asked his friend, the NBC News anchor John Chancellor, if it was possible for an anchorman to go crazy on the air, and Chancellor replied "Every day." Within a week of that conversation, Chayefsky had written the rough draft of a script, centering on an elderly, disillusioned anchor who announces he will commit suicide on the air.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddy_Chayefsky


I think television is the worst medium for news and opinion. It bypasses our critical thinking skills. I quit shortly after 9-11-2001.

My wife and I quit traditional television entirely a few years later. We read all our news. We don't see any television commercials.

When I was a kid my dad used to get home from work, pop open a beer and watch the local CBS news followed by Walter Cronkite. That used to be held up as the standard of what television news ought to be, but I no longer believe that. Television news does not make the world a better place, it does not educate people, it does not improve their critical thinking skills.

Ford_Prefect

(7,895 posts)
24. Thank you for the exposition and the quote. I rather thought the reference was clear enough.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 10:34 AM
Sep 2022

I left out several others simply because Paddy was so well known as a long term critic of television and the corporate masters of it. Rod Serling and Stan Freeberg have given rather telling interviews regarding the degree of abuse inherent in the medium, to say nothing of their collective works illuminating it. They are far from alone in their observations or their art.

Vance Packard's "The Hidden Persuaders" certainly opened some eyes, though today many may overlook it.

jaxexpat

(6,820 posts)
14. Bothsiderism is when the media sells its cynicism and hate for its audience to the highest bidder.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 09:15 AM
Sep 2022

Passing it off as news is the reward to "conservatism", media at hire for its regular payments.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
18. Aside from the Joe part, Sling has the same thing
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 09:57 AM
Sep 2022

Nondescript “We’ll be right back” filler ads. I guess advertisers don’t think streaming is worth buying time on yet. During the Olympics there was a US Bank commercial about this guy who turned his knitting hobby into a business. It played so often that my family memorized it verbatim.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
29. Of all the complaints about MSNBC commercials, yours is the first to actually analyze them this way
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:27 AM
Sep 2022

Thoughtful.
I agree with the poster who suggested writing to them.

PCIntern

(25,541 posts)
30. All the examples on these commercials
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:48 AM
Sep 2022

Are fairly cringe worthy: Rachel giving away a bottle of liquor stashed in her desk in a drawer to Steve Kornacki for his work, Ari Melber telling his guest John Meachem that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar stands taller than he does, figuratively of course… ( thinking he’s funny as usual), and others. These are weird examples…

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