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speak easy

(9,246 posts)
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:23 PM Sep 2022

Medvedev threatens to 'defend' annexed territories in Ukraine with "strategic nuclear weapons".

Ukraine live briefing: Russia vows to defend annexed territories

Russia’s military resources, including “strategic nuclear weapons,” can be used to defend annexed territories in Ukraine including Crimea, Dmitry Medvedev, deputy head of the Russian Security Council, said Thursday. Further details have emerged regarding Wednesday’s elaborate prisoner exchange between Moscow and Kyiv, in which nearly 300 people were released, including leaders of Ukraine’s Azov Regiment and a pro-Kremlin politician.

Russian and U.S. diplomats, meanwhile, are facing off over war crimes accusations at a U.N. Security Council meeting, following a day of addresses by world leaders. In the opening minutes of Thursday’s meeting, U.N. Secretary General António Guterres called Moscow’s plan to stage annexation referendums in occupied areas of Ukraine a “violation of the U.N. charter,” a charge that President Biden also leveled in his speech Wednesday to the General Assembly. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Thursday that Russia’s withdrawal from the Ukrainian cities of Izyum and Bucha revealed gruesome torture and murder of Ukrainian civilians that could not be dismissed as the actions of a few bad actors.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/22/russia-ukraine-war-latest-updates/

"strategic nuclear weapons” ? As in vaporizing cities with massive fallout? Not even China would support that. Bald bluff.
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Medvedev threatens to 'defend' annexed territories in Ukraine with "strategic nuclear weapons". (Original Post) speak easy Sep 2022 OP
I hope they cry when we peel off the onion tops on the Kremlin Walleye Sep 2022 #1
The one thing Russia has war-gamed is a first strike , speak easy Sep 2022 #2
Let's hope so. The nightmares of my childhood are coming back Walleye Sep 2022 #3
I was living on an AFB, and my father was sent down to Florida during the crisis. tblue37 Sep 2022 #9
Wow you really do have close experience with a Russian nuclear threat Walleye Sep 2022 #10
Yeah, just thinking about how scared we were has me a bit shaky. tblue37 Sep 2022 #12
Same here. I was glued to coverage of that. I never cared for the Russians ever since Walleye Sep 2022 #13
Right there with you. 2naSalit Sep 2022 #18
I lived practically next door to NORAD. I could see the blast doors from my niyad Sep 2022 #14
I think we all have a little PTSD about that. Walleye Sep 2022 #15
Two problems I see droidamus2 Sep 2022 #4
Russia would nuke Kyiv or somewhere else outside of the Donbas Silent3 Sep 2022 #6
Not Kiev, the ancient capital of Kievan Rus, speak easy Sep 2022 #8
Does Putin really think we wouldn't retaliate big time? Walleye Sep 2022 #11
Putin is desperate, I'm not sure he's even sane any more Silent3 Sep 2022 #16
Exactly..doesn't matter where they drop it, prevailing winds would carry fallout right over Moscow PortTack Sep 2022 #17
I don't wish death on a lot of people... Initech Sep 2022 #5
Yes. Time for the inner circle to act. speak easy Sep 2022 #7

Walleye

(31,017 posts)
1. I hope they cry when we peel off the onion tops on the Kremlin
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:27 PM
Sep 2022

I’m sure we have missiles already aimed right at it. Putin wants a legacy, how about the destruction of Moscow

Walleye

(31,017 posts)
3. Let's hope so. The nightmares of my childhood are coming back
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:30 PM
Sep 2022

I was living close to a major Air Force Base during the Cuban missile crisis

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
9. I was living on an AFB, and my father was sent down to Florida during the crisis.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:52 PM
Sep 2022

We were at Seymour Johnson AFB IN North Carolina, and most of the kids at school also had fathers that were rushed to Florida, so none of us could concentrate on anything we were being taught, and frankly, neither could the teachers, many of whom had husbands sent to Florida as well.

2naSalit

(86,586 posts)
18. Right there with you.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:29 PM
Sep 2022

My dad was in the NAVY VPs, the subchasers who followed those missiles from Russia to Cuba and he moved us all from safe NAS Brunswick to Boca Chica (not sure which branch it belonged to) for the crisis. Lived in Key West until it was over then went back to Brunswick, ME. I started grade school there and was set back a grade when I got to Maine because FL schools had no kindergarten and first grade in northeast schools was further advanced. I did fine once i got going in the northern schools until high school.

It was a evry tense time, I had nightmares about it back then. Now I do once in a while with the new threats, it makes me rather tense all the time.

niyad

(113,293 posts)
14. I lived practically next door to NORAD. I could see the blast doors from my
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:56 PM
Sep 2022

yard. So many military kids in my school. Nervous does not begin to cover it.

droidamus2

(1,699 posts)
4. Two problems I see
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:31 PM
Sep 2022

One, isn't Russia to the east of the Ukraine so if you nuke the Ukraine the fallout ends up over Russia and maybe Chine which I am sure they wouldn't be really happy about. Two, how do you save somebody by nuking them? Sounds like doublespeak to me.

Silent3

(15,210 posts)
6. Russia would nuke Kyiv or somewhere else outside of the Donbas
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:37 PM
Sep 2022

Claiming that they were attacking military assets that enable Ukraine to threaten Russia's possession of the region.

Obviously, the move would really be to terrorize Ukraine into submission, however.

speak easy

(9,246 posts)
8. Not Kiev, the ancient capital of Kievan Rus,
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:41 PM
Sep 2022

and where all the embassies are. More like a demonstration on Snake Island.

Walleye

(31,017 posts)
11. Does Putin really think we wouldn't retaliate big time?
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:55 PM
Sep 2022

We have a huge arsenal. As you can tell by our budget every year

Silent3

(15,210 posts)
16. Putin is desperate, I'm not sure he's even sane any more
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:05 PM
Sep 2022

Putin might just gamble on seeing if he can get away with a small tactical nuke to start with, and hope that the rest of the world is too scared to risk escalating from there.

PortTack

(32,762 posts)
17. Exactly..doesn't matter where they drop it, prevailing winds would carry fallout right over Moscow
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:06 PM
Sep 2022

Initech

(100,068 posts)
5. I don't wish death on a lot of people...
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:32 PM
Sep 2022

But the sooner Putin and Medvedev get the Osama treatment the better!

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