The online incel movement is getting more violent and extreme, report says

[CousinIT]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/09/22/incels-rape-murder-study/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjE5OTYyNjA0IiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY2MzkzODI3MCwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY2NTE0Nzg3MCwiaWF0IjoxNjYzOTM4MjcwLCJqdGkiOiI1YTZkMDBkZS0zZjViLTQ1NjMtOGMzZi03MDg5YTA3NzU0NjkiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vdGVjaG5vbG9neS8yMDIyLzA5LzIyL2luY2Vscy1yYXBlLW11cmRlci1zdHVkeS8ifQ.EN4jh0e0FcgYOXgmmSvpUVYbePmNcsvUfvmgRPooSpU

The most prominent forum for men who consider themselves involuntarily celibate or “incels” has become significantly more radicalized over the past year and a half and is seeking to normalize child rape, a new report says.

The report, by the Center for Countering Digital Hate’s new Quant Lab, is the culmination of an investigation that analyzed more than 1 million posts on the site. It found a marked spike in conversations about mass murder and growing approval of sexually assaulting prepubescent girls.

The report also says that platforms including YouTube and Google, as well as internet infrastructure companies like Cloudflare are facilitating the growth of the forum, which the report said is visited by 2.6 million people every month. “These businesses should make a principled decision to withdraw their services from sites causing such significant harm,” the report says.

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"Incels blame women for their failings in life" - "In March, the U.S. Secret Service’s National Threat Assessment Center released a report warning that anti-woman violence was a growing terrorism threat."

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"89 percent of posters support rape and say it’s acceptable. The CCDH analysis also found that posters on the forum are seeking to normalize child rape.... more than half of the members of the forum support pedophilia."

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“YouTube is a key part of incel education,” Ahmed said. Forum members often share content from misogynist YouTube channels where users post covertly recorded images of women."

[Walleye]

1. They are voluntarily celibate. They don't have to be assholes

[highplainsdem]

3. +1,000,000

[The Unmitigated Gall]

2. That's right...get angrier.

And even more entitled than you pricks already are.

[Johnny2X2X]

4. Disturbing as all hell

Just sick people overall.

But their rise is a symptom of an unhealthy society in regards to sex, dating, and women.

We live in a new world. One where every form of porn is available at the click of a mouse, and that's the type of sex that is shaping too many young men. In an online dating world where 10% of the online male profiles get 90% of the interactions. It's a sad life for too many.

We have a broken culture in America. While I don't sympathize with Incels even one bit, there are generations of lonely men out there who have been steamrolled by a broken culture that America has.

[chowder66]

7. I personally think their lack of coping skills is a major factor.

Some men have a visceral fear of being rejected. Doesn't matter if you are shy, popular or whatever. Many can't handle their emotions on a whole host of social interactions. Be it humiliation or living up to expectations they set for themselves or others try to set for them.

I've known handsome guys that didn't have girlfriends for ages because they were afraid of asking a girl out and being rejected.
The only way they would get dates/girlfriends was by getting setup. Not everyone finds "their person" in this world either and they certainly won't if they do not interact but on the flip-side there are those that will not interact with some of these people because they are off-putting in one way or another. There are also those that think they should get the hottest women out there. Hell the hottest guys I know typically end up with women who are beautiful inside and unique-looking in their own way, sometimes pretty, sometimes quirky but beautiful because of who they are mostly.
People can adapt their ideas of beauty as well. Someone you may have thought was unattractive can become incredibly attractive based on their personality if given the chance and that can also flip on its head if a person is attractive but is horrible on the inside and outside.

There seems to be this black and white thinking with these types. They seem to want women to "be" as they insist and "do" as they insist and if that isn't the case then they go into incel mode and further warp their own perceptions of how life should be when it comes to sex and women.

There needs to be a lot done regarding emotional health. It needs to start early and be nurtured throughout young adulthood IMO.

[chowder66]

5. 2.6 million. 89%. 50+%. Something truly significant has to be done.

This is fucking disturbing. I mean really, really disturbing.

[MagickMuffin]

6. PAGING QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ, HERE IS WHERE YOU NEED TO FOCUS

Pedophilia is real! Your just missing your mark.

[dalton99a]

8. Losers who can't get laid

[Sympthsical]

9. This is one of the most vaguely worded and cited articles I've ever read

Lots of statistics with no information where they were drawn from or their methodology. Just vague allusions and take their word for it. How are they arriving at the numbers they are? Where is all this being pulled from?

There isn't even a link in the article to the report being discussed.

And then I saw the byline. Taylor Lorenz. Oh. Ohhhhhh. She's . . . not who I'd want to be citing for anything. She's like Twitter in newspaper form, and not the most . . . non-toxic of personalities.

That aside, I had to do a lot of digging to find out just what the hell this article was about, the forum they're referencing, and the actual report.

1. The CCDH is a major pro-censorship by tech companies group. Incels are bad, but this organization being cited has a lot of baggage. Their entire point of existence is to get tech to censor whoever they don't like this week. If you are pro-corporate control of speech, this group is probably for you.

2. The report is here: https://counterhate.com/research/incelosphere/?utm_source=take-action&utm_medium=crm&utm_campaign=incelosphere

3. They don't name the forum and other sources. It's one thing not to name it in the WaPo article. I get that. However, not naming it in the report when you're basing most of the report on it is puzzling. The report is literally unverifiable with the information given. I can't figure out how they arrived at their statistics. At all. And when you start rooting out their numbers, it's funny how you see them chip away until you realize they're talking about a very, very small group of people. That's not how the article makes it sound, does it?

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There it is.

Incels are pretty rotten. One of the problems with social media is how what had been disparate social dysfunction in scattered individuals now has the ability to come together in a shared space, bounce off each other, and breed toxicity to ever greater potency. Were I law enforcement, I would definitely keep one eye open on these kinds of sites for violent threats and illegal activities. Totally fair game.

But man is this article and the report completely useless.

Also, if we've scared you enough with unverifiable statistics, sign up and donate! Le sigh. Works like a charm though, doesn't it? Scare the hell out of you and get those coins.