Voting Equipment to Be Replace in Georgia County

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Voting Equipment to Be Replace in Georgia County

September 24, 2022 at 11:12 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 43 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2022/09/24/voting-equipment-to-be-replace-in-georgia-county/

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Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) said that “he will replace voting equipment in Coffee County after supporters of then-President Donald Trump and their computer analysts copied confidential data following the 2020 election,” the Atlanta Journal Constitution reports.

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[stopdiggin]

1. I think you almost HAVE to.

And that is one of the (criminal?) consequences of these unsecure third party intrusions. It's destruction of property! And if a county clerk went out and smashed all the headlights and taillights out of the vehicles in the county lot ... That action would be pretty well understood by the public. Breaching (or allowing the breach) of these secure systems ... Same thing.

[kimbutgar]

2. Just hope it's not the Republican owned ES&S machines that seem to favor republicans

Like Susan Collins and turtle.

[GreenWave]

5. And Lindsey.

[bigtime]

6. Georgia has Dominion machines

Since 2020

[Native]

3. Didn't they go to other counties in Georgia too?

[questionseverything]

4. We need paper ballots and hand counts for at least the top two races

Any scanners used to count the rest of the races should be open source

This time someone caught them messing with the proprietary software voting machines use but

Almost 70% of election districts have repub clerks in charge of the election computers so they have access at any time

Besides no human can oversee the electronic impulses of a machine

👍😎

[MissMillie]

7. According to Chris Krebs:

95% of ballots cast by machines create a paper back-up (for audit purposes)

when only contested states are taken into account--it's 100%

[questionseverything]

8. If you are counting the side roll of older voting machines, those are never looked at

And if they were, how could anyone prove the roll actually represents the voters choice? It’s not possible

The machines Georgia used that produced a paper ballot are better but experiments (by voting rights groups) showed most people don’t double check their choices to make sure the machine printed the choices correctly and it’s the bar code the machine counts not the printed name

Some states,like Florida it’s actually illegal to hand count the ballots, a recount just goes through the same machine

Even if a state wanted to do an “audit “, what about the chain of custody? As we have seen in the Georgia case, insiders have access

The only way for regular citizens to be able to oversee their own elections is openly, transparently hand counted paper ballots

Everything else is a trust me system

[Hermit-The-Prog]

14. People cannot see electrons moving around in wires.

Only paper ballots should be official. Electronics can yield a fast count, but should never be the official count.

[ga_girl]

9. And the hand count of the 2020 Presidental in Georgia

Was almost identical to the two machine counts completed on the Dominion hardware. Two people bubbling the ballots using the printed name, and then counting each stack.

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-georgia-elections-1a2ea5e8df69614f4e09b47fea581a09
No individual county showed a variation in margin larger than 0.73%, and the variation in margin in 103 of the state’s 159 counties was less than 0.05%, a memo released with the results says.

The errors that were discovered were almost certainly due to human mishandling (unscanned ballots, memory cards not uploaded)

[questionseverything]

11. Thousands of previously uncounted ballots were found and counted

Odd that the possible human err wasn’t found in the first two counts

Georgia has only had paper since 2020, imagine if the machines had spit out Biden’s name as winner if there was no paper to prove it

Everyone is rightfully upset that nut jobs got into the vote counting software but election officials and company officials regularly have access, how is that different?

Years ago humbolt county did a voting transparency project, every ballot was scanned and published on line so anyone could double check the count…. They found somehow the absentee ballots had been omitted from the count. Transparency allowed the problem to be corrected

[LeftInTX]

12. QAnon in Texas wants to get rid of machines

They don't trust them. https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/23/texas-voting-conspiracy-theorists/

[questionseverything]

13. A free people shouldn't have to trust that an accurate count has been reached

They should be able to see it happen

Because so many of our elections have so many races i have changed from a total hand count advocate to advocating for hand counts for the top two races with open source scanners (as long as hand counts were available in close races)

Most conspiracy theories have some grain of truth involved but before machines most election results matched the polling done ahead of time, after machines not so much

[Hermit-The-Prog]

15. Counts should be by people, and witnessed by people.

If there are enough people to vote, there are enough people to count.

Electronics should not be relied upon for an official count; they can assist in producing ballots and be used to produce an unofficial, fast count, but should never be considered an official count.

[Zilli]

10. I've only ever voted in California

I've never voted using a "machine" and only paper or card stock ballots. We have, in the past, used a system where you poke out those fabulous "chads" to indicate your selection and that seems to have caused a lot of trouble in other states. It was not electronic or mechanical and I never thought of it as a "machine" just a small poking tool on a string and a jig that held the ballot. Was that system a "voting machine"? Thankfully now I'm only voting by mail. I consider myself very fortunate.