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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsfact check from Daniel Dale re Fentanyl being brought in over the border. IMPORTANT FACT. Listen:
Link to tweet
MichMan
(11,919 posts)How much more made it through ?
SYFROYH
(34,169 posts)Enough to make it worthwhile to keep trying.
LeftInTX
(25,305 posts)Traffic stops
Stash houses
etc....
It doesn't mean we have "open borders" or whatever...
This stuff has been going on forever and it's always campaign fodder.
GoCubsGo
(32,081 posts)hooked on the stuff in the first place. Especially teenagers. Why such a huge market for that shit? And, why aren't they doing anything about it, other than pointing they fingers in blame? (Yeah, I know the answer to that last question. It's all they have.)
MichMan
(11,919 posts)Igel
(35,300 posts)Now, the opiate scandal in the courts was scaled back a decade ago, 2006 to 2012. So unless those teens were addicted in elementary school that's not the cause. And given that the numbers *outside* of the originally affected communities are increasing, another reason is needed. The easy answer doesn't account for the data and makes false predictions.
Or maybe it's because the stuff's so addictive, and a lot of kids call it "self-medicating" (because, well, medication for anxiety is good, and if it feels good it must be good, and why should they not have power over their own bodies and actions?)
A better question is, Where is the fentanyl and its cheap precursors originating? And if so much is intercepted at border crossings, how's the rest getting in? Or is it being made domestically?
GoCubsGo
(32,081 posts)A lot of it gets smuggled in via Mexican cartels, and a lot comes in directly via the mail, airplanes, etc. Here's a pretty good article about it:
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/17/916890880/we-are-shipping-to-the-u-s-china-s-fentanyl-sellers-find-new-routes-to-drug-user
It's a messy, difficult problem, and I don't know if there's any solution to it, other than getting everyone to understand just how dangerous this drug is. I don't know what that would take. Watching so many people die from it doesn't seem to be enough.
keithbvadu2
(36,793 posts)Republican verifies that republicans are the main abusers of fentanyl.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216683046
https://www.newsweek.com/maga-voter-deaths-fentanyl-via-border-does-look-intentional-jd-vance-1702428
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/11/jd-vances-claim-that-biden-is-targeting-maga-voters-with-fentanyl/
J.D. Vances claim that Biden is targeting MAGA voters with fentanyl
If you wanted to kill a bunch of MAGA voters in the middle of the heartland, how better than to target them and their kids with this deadly fentanyl?
It does look intentional. Its like Joe Biden wants to punish the people who didnt vote for him and opening up the floodgates to the border is one way to do it.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)Higher divorce rates
Higher teenage pregnancy
Higher poverty rates
Higher infant mortality
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Just about every social problem you can think of is worse in Republican controlled states, and their policies and habits are a direct cause for most of them. Is it any surprise that drug addiction is part of the list?
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