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Another Republican chickenhawk says our military is not manly enough (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2022 OP
Here are 2 manly men and 2 women Botany Sep 2022 #1
I did not know von Stueben was gay underpants Sep 2022 #2
Yup! Botany Sep 2022 #4
I'm very aware of him underpants Sep 2022 #5
Yes, that he was gay. Aristus Sep 2022 #6
People today don't get formations. NutmegYankee Sep 2022 #13
He also taught the Colonials where and where not to poop. Very important. Marcuse Sep 2022 #18
Paramount. Aristus Sep 2022 #22
Another part of HISTORY the RW doesn't want you to know about...the famous and admired men and women Samrob Sep 2022 #11
It was covered up in history for decades. NutmegYankee Sep 2022 #12
Again, didn't know that underpants Sep 2022 #14
Did Ben serve in the military? grumpyduck Sep 2022 #3
Ben is POS HillbillyDaoist Sep 2022 #7
This coward Traildogbob Sep 2022 #10
I'd assign him to one of women DIs. sarge43 Sep 2022 #29
ummm, benny, maybe that very patriotic male pride is the reason for so niyad Sep 2022 #8
Because when we all think Macho, Ben Shapiro is the first person that we all think of. TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #9
This is the alleged braintrust of the right-wing blathersphere. GoCubsGo Sep 2022 #15
His shtick is to talk fast, get people out of their zone so they'll misspeak. Master of redirection. TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #26
He actually put that in a bag!? Mr. Evil Sep 2022 #25
I just looked up some Twitter responses to Shapiro's 'shopping spree' . love this one: 70sEraVet Sep 2022 #33
Dang! TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #36
WHAT the miltary isn't Irish Spring whistler162 Sep 2022 #16
And you know who else has an army with women fighters? Lonestarblue Sep 2022 #17
"And you know who else has an army with women fighters?" Botany Sep 2022 #21
Somebody isn't "getting any?" calimary Sep 2022 #19
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Sep 2022 #23
So, according to Ben, Gal Gadot is wimpy and woke? RVN VET71 Sep 2022 #20
In a contest of brain vs brawn, brain always wins Xipe Totec Sep 2022 #24
Fr literally milennia soldierant Sep 2022 #27
Tell that to Senator Tammy Duckworth, (D-IL) sarge43 Sep 2022 #28
👆 Deuxcents Sep 2022 #30
Chickenhawk said what? onecaliberal Sep 2022 #31
and BS (benny boy) is the example of masculinity that they hold up? I'm sorry, I have to go laugh SWBTATTReg Sep 2022 #32
This from one who lies about his height. Abolishinist Sep 2022 #34
He never served in the military. Typical of those who have never served. olegramps Sep 2022 #35

Botany

(70,594 posts)
1. Here are 2 manly men and 2 women
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 02:34 PM
Sep 2022

Baron von Stueben Gay and once he started helping George Washington Washington never lost a battle



Alan Turing Gay and English and helped to invent the modern computer to crack the German code for their U Boats
and the shorten the war in Europe. Died by suicide after WW II because he was under attack for being Gay.



QE 2 in WW II



Julia Child "the french chef" Secret Agent behind enemy lines in WW II

Botany

(70,594 posts)
4. Yup!
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 02:46 PM
Sep 2022

And he taught Prussian military tactics to the American fighters ... close order drills
but more important no more of that meeting across the battle field in lines .... hide
behind trees, rocks, fences and stuff and then pick off the people in those nice
red coats and BTW the man in the fancy uniform riding on a horse? .... shoot his ass
1st.

Skirmish the English and Hessians and then fall back into the woods, let the brits chase
'em, and then pick off the brits in the woods.

Aristus

(66,468 posts)
6. Yes, that he was gay.
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 03:34 PM
Sep 2022

No, that he taught the American soldiers guerilla tactics.

Hit-and-run guerilla tactics were what the American soldiers were already using against the British. Those are fine for not losing a war. But if your goal is to win a war, you have to step up your game. Von Steuben drilled the Americans in Prussian tactics, which were pretty much the same tactics (close order drill) that the British were using, only with better discipline and better facial hair.

And the old "Look at those silly soldiers is their silly bright red coats! They're so easy to see!" chestnut ignores that fact that hundreds of soldiers using black powder muskets are going to create huge, dense clouds of smoke that are very difficult to see friend or foe through. Brightly-colored uniforms reduced the risk of friendly fire.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
13. People today don't get formations.
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 03:58 PM
Sep 2022

It's hard to understand for people who see modern warfare how slow guns fired at that time period and that warfare was still based on the ancient tradition of forming tight formations and working to flank or break the enemy formations to drive them from the field.

I reenact for Rev and Civil war, so I'm always explaining it to visitors.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
11. Another part of HISTORY the RW doesn't want you to know about...the famous and admired men and women
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 03:51 PM
Sep 2022

who were gay and who contributed so much to humanity and the things we love and admire today. It's all a part of the inconvenient history the MAGA are trying to squelch.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
12. It was covered up in history for decades.
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 03:52 PM
Sep 2022

But the smears he got for being gay directly drove him to leave Germany and go to France, where Franklin offered him a much needed job.

 

HillbillyDaoist

(93 posts)
7. Ben is POS
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 03:37 PM
Sep 2022

Why is this piece of shit still getting headlines?? When will the media stop giving these morons free press and airplay??

Traildogbob

(8,828 posts)
10. This coward
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 03:45 PM
Sep 2022

Blow hard needs to be escourted into a bar at a marine base and spew his shit. Give him one day of boot camp with a pyscho drill instructor.
Shut the fuck up Bennie Boy. Just shut the ever loving fuck up. Go man up for Putin. Your leader is begging for some Manley Men.

sarge43

(28,946 posts)
29. I'd assign him to one of women DIs.
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 05:23 PM
Sep 2022

In less than five minutes she'd have him on the tarmac in the fetal position begging for mercy.

niyad

(113,595 posts)
8. ummm, benny, maybe that very patriotic male pride is the reason for so
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 03:43 PM
Sep 2022

much insane death and destruction. Very few wars have been fought for sensible reasons.

TheBlackAdder

(28,225 posts)
9. Because when we all think Macho, Ben Shapiro is the first person that we all think of.
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 03:45 PM
Sep 2022

.

Dude is trying to hold that small board, and it looks like the board is getting the better of him.



When his ball drop, perhaps his voice will get deeper.

Perhaps he's getting a slight O because his nips are perky. Shame he can't give his wife an O or get her wet.

.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
15. This is the alleged braintrust of the right-wing blathersphere.
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 04:08 PM
Sep 2022

He's said to be the smartest guy on the block. I guess compared to Charlie Kirk, he's a genius. But, in the real world, he's just a sniveling jackass.

TheBlackAdder

(28,225 posts)
26. His shtick is to talk fast, get people out of their zone so they'll misspeak. Master of redirection.
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 04:59 PM
Sep 2022

.

I know how to deal with thee people, thanks to a doctor who lived across the street from me.

Every time they speak fast, ask them to slow it down and repeat what they said, as they talk fast.
This will make them uncomfortable, because they are used to bullshitting quickly. Most people get
nervous and will stumble or say the wrong things when they try to match the fast pacing he uses.
People subconsciously will try to match the pace of those they are speaking to, and he knows this.
He is counting on this to trap people and prevent them from pondering what is actually being said.
Instead, make him step down to a normal speed.

Now, when he's caught, he'll try to change the subject. While it often catches us off guard and
we allow the redirection, it is imperative to maintain focus and keep the discussion on track. Deny
the redirection. If asking him something he doesn't want to say, he'll try to change the subject.
Redirect him back to the original topic and on the third time, when he realizes he's trapped, he'll
lose his shit. Everyone who does this always loses their shit on the third time.

.

70sEraVet

(3,519 posts)
33. I just looked up some Twitter responses to Shapiro's 'shopping spree' . love this one:
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 01:07 PM
Sep 2022

"i wish ben shapiro's father had bagged up his wood"

That gem courtesy of Jort-Michel Connard.

TheBlackAdder

(28,225 posts)
36. Dang!
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 02:09 PM
Sep 2022

.

I was actually drinking water when I read it and started to cough in it.

That was a good one.

.

Lonestarblue

(10,095 posts)
17. And you know who else has an army with women fighters?
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 04:20 PM
Sep 2022

Ukraine, and they’re kicking the shit out of the oh so “masculine” Russian army.

calimary

(81,521 posts)
19. Somebody isn't "getting any?"
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 04:27 PM
Sep 2022

Sorry. I always go there. Must have been all those years in Catholic school…

RVN VET71

(2,698 posts)
20. So, according to Ben, Gal Gadot is wimpy and woke?
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 04:31 PM
Sep 2022

No one denies the strength and courage of the Israeli army. And Wonder Woman was not only a soldier in it but a combat trainer. Maybe little Ben is willing to do hand to hand combat with her to decide who is wimpy and feckless and who is strong and capable?

Such a jerk.

soldierant

(6,937 posts)
27. Fr literally milennia
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 05:05 PM
Sep 2022

there have been women who went to wat, many disguised as men, others in order to accomplish things that men couldn't (Judith. Jael. MAta Hari. Josephine Baker.)

Not a lot passed as men, but enough did that I doubt you could find a war in history without at least one.

sarge43

(28,946 posts)
28. Tell that to Senator Tammy Duckworth, (D-IL)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 05:14 PM
Sep 2022

In the second Iraq War she was wounded by ground fire while co-piloting a Black Hawk chopper. Lost both legs and nearly her right arm. She was awarded the following during her service: Purple Heart, Meritorious Service Medal, Air Medal, Combat Action Badge, Senior Army Aviator Badge -- among others. She applied for a medical waiver to serve in the Illinois Army National Guard. She retired from the Guard as Lt Colonel (O-5).

What does your resume of service read, Benny?

SWBTATTReg

(22,174 posts)
32. and BS (benny boy) is the example of masculinity that they hold up? I'm sorry, I have to go laugh
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 12:43 PM
Sep 2022

and choke up and try and catch my breath now. Where's my inhaler? I know that I left it around here somewhere! Ah, there it is. Gasp!! Gasp...ahhh, much better.

ben s., another idiot prancing around, trying to act all macho and such, and failing miserably in doing so. These commentators seem to think that they can insult (or try to) anyone, w/o ever wearing the shoes of those they ridicule. Another reason why these commentators and scumbags aren't worth their salt or why don't more people pay attention to them?

If you ask me, he's pretty pathetic. Especially w/ him holding an obviously way too big piece of wood in a tiny plastic sack.

Hmmmm, is this some sort of parody (w/ the board, etc. at Home Depot)?

Abolishinist

(1,316 posts)
34. This from one who lies about his height.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 01:07 PM
Sep 2022

I'm not so sure the 'manly men' he fawns over would consider his 5'5" frame sufficient for membership in their elite club.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
35. He never served in the military. Typical of those who have never served.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 02:03 PM
Sep 2022

I served and I am willing to bet that every one of the women who served had more balls than this wimp asshole.

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