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'Impeachable whatever': GOP floats impeaching Biden for ... something (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2022 OP
grrrr gyms just damned mad! samnsara Sep 2022 #1
Excellent Turbineguy Sep 2022 #2
They are having to out outrage themselves. underpants Sep 2022 #3
Obviously they plan to impeach him because he got elected. High crime in their opinion Walleye Sep 2022 #4
Wouldn't they have to acknowledge he'd been elected President, first? Asking for a friend... n/t TygrBright Sep 2022 #5
Hmmm. Are they going to go after a lie about a consensual blow job? madinmaryland Sep 2022 #6
At their own risk. no_hypocrisy Sep 2022 #7
The risk may be slightly less these days. Caliman73 Sep 2022 #12
I think the pendulum is swinging back our way. Elessar Zappa Sep 2022 #13
I believe that you are correct. Caliman73 Sep 2022 #14
"High crimes and misdemeanors" is sufficiently vague enough for anything... malthaussen Sep 2022 #8
The Constitution sets the threshold for conviction, not senators. tritsofme Sep 2022 #10
They can't convict Biden. Elessar Zappa Sep 2022 #15
Actually it says "concurrence of two thirds of the members present". Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #26
Well, that's actually a relief... malthaussen Sep 2022 #20
If there was Mad_Machine76 Sep 2022 #22
Depends on how unethical the means were. malthaussen Sep 2022 #27
If anyone should be prosecuted SouthernDem4ever Sep 2022 #9
Another hypocrisy delivery mechanism. chriscan64 Sep 2022 #11
They don't need a reason - just the votes... lame54 Sep 2022 #16
For Republicans, everything is partisan. They rarely if ever, operate in good faith. Caliman73 Sep 2022 #17
Revenge is all they've got. moondust Sep 2022 #18
so now impeachment Tickle Sep 2022 #19
What are you saying? Mad_Machine76 Sep 2022 #21
They had better not screw up and impeach him three times... Hugin Sep 2022 #23
Funny story about victims of their own deflecting? Brainfodder Sep 2022 #24
Shouldn't be hard for them to make up a reason. GoodRaisin Sep 2022 #25

underpants

(182,958 posts)
3. They are having to out outrage themselves.
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 06:27 PM
Sep 2022

Empty Greene texts
Boebert personal appearances
Gaetz does something.
Now their caucus feels like they need to keep up.

They think it’s a broad reach but it’s really internal other than people laughing at them.

Walleye

(31,104 posts)
4. Obviously they plan to impeach him because he got elected. High crime in their opinion
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 06:28 PM
Sep 2022

Beating Trump in an election was unforgivable to these people.

no_hypocrisy

(46,245 posts)
7. At their own risk.
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 06:50 PM
Sep 2022

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Clinton's impeachment was the beginning of the end for Newt Gingrich, who was carrying on his own illicit extramarital affair at that time.

Caliman73

(11,755 posts)
12. The risk may be slightly less these days.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 12:21 PM
Sep 2022

The Clinton Impeachment happened in 1999. Fox New was just a fledgling 3 year old media source and while right wing radio had been around since Limbaugh and others got nationally syndicated in the late 80's early 90's, there was not the fully developed and coordinated right wing echo chamber that we have today. While the viewership at Fox remains relatively small in terms of mainstream new coverage audiences, the consolidation of Conservative viewers and the coordination that occurs with right wing messaging appears to have securely captured a minimum of 30% to 40% of the Conservative/Republican base. This means that there is a large chunk of people within Conservative politics who are always motivated to vote and are actively propagandizing to relatives and friends who may not be zealous, but who are tribal. On our side, we are constantly battling fatigue and disinterest in politics. Along with the cheating that Conservatives do with gerrymandering and voter suppression, it could mean less of a bite for Conservative overreach.

I do often say that, "One thing you can always count on is Republican/Conservative overreach" so I would say, there may be a point where the pendulum swings back our way. The problem is that Conservatives can deal massive damage to our institutions by the time that happens.

Elessar Zappa

(14,099 posts)
13. I think the pendulum is swinging back our way.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 12:29 PM
Sep 2022

Just anecdotal, but I’ve noticed much less enthusiasm for Trump over the past few months where I live. We’ll find out in November if they’ve finally gone too far for the average American.

Caliman73

(11,755 posts)
14. I believe that you are correct.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 12:40 PM
Sep 2022

We do seem to be experiencing more enthusiasm for Democratic ideas, and backlash and fatigue regarding Trump and conservatives in general. 2022 will definitely be a bellwether.

malthaussen

(17,219 posts)
8. "High crimes and misdemeanors" is sufficiently vague enough for anything...
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 10:40 AM
Sep 2022

... It drives me crazy that people do not seem to realize that THE SUBSTANCE DOES NOT MATTER. And if the Senate becomes Republican, they will cheerfully vote to convict along straight party lines. First they'll probably change the rules so a simple majority is sufficient to convict. Then they'll impeach the VP along the same lines, and hello, President McCarthy.

-- Mal

Elessar Zappa

(14,099 posts)
15. They can't convict Biden.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 12:50 PM
Sep 2022

It’s in the constitution that they need 67 Senators, which isn’t gonna happen. Impeachment would just be symbolic.

malthaussen

(17,219 posts)
20. Well, that's actually a relief...
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 05:17 PM
Sep 2022

... presuming they can't find some way to wriggle around it.

-- Mal

malthaussen

(17,219 posts)
27. Depends on how unethical the means were.
Wed Sep 28, 2022, 10:18 AM
Sep 2022

The Democrats shy away from anything that is too overtly political -- witness the filibuster rules -- whereas I think the GOP, should it have the chance, would do anything, no matter how extralegal or unethical.

-- Mal

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
9. If anyone should be prosecuted
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:11 AM
Sep 2022

it's the assholes in the house that aided the insurrection. Any voter that even considers giving these constitutional law breakers power back in our government are total fools and will reap the consequences, whether they think they are on the right side or not. No one is protected from fascism.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
11. Another hypocrisy delivery mechanism.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:58 AM
Sep 2022

Remember all the cries of "politically motivated investigation" during trump's first impeachment? Even if it was, he still did the thing he was accused of. And then for Impeachment II, there was "we can't start the impeachment trial until Feb. 9th", followed by "we can't convict because he's already out of office."

lame54

(35,335 posts)
16. They don't need a reason - just the votes...
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 12:55 PM
Sep 2022

When they impeach him 3 times Trump will no longer hold the record

Caliman73

(11,755 posts)
17. For Republicans, everything is partisan. They rarely if ever, operate in good faith.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 01:02 PM
Sep 2022

A major difference between our groups is that Democrats/Liberals, try to hold each other to account. You are more likely to find people criticizing and even denouncing Democratic politicians, from the inside. Not for political expediency, but typically on principle. A major example is Jon Edwards, who when it was revealed that he had an affair and fathered a child, and tried to cover it up; his political career was over. Not just his candidacy for President, his entire career. It was a betrayal and such a lack of character that Democrats could no longer support him. While other politicians have had affairs, there may be a sense of individual upset, but typically liberals are well, liberal and try to understand the complexities of human behavior. When behavior crosses a threshold, we (Liberals) will act, regardless of potential costs politically. Sometimes a bit too zealously as in the case of Al Franken. Anthony Weiner was another example of a politician that had ambitions and was a fighter, but when it was found that he had texted sexual pictures to likely, underage young women, again, his political career...over. Andrew Cuomo, same thing. Not for political gain, but because we need to trust our public servants.

Conservatives elected and are still beholden to one of the most personally and politically corrupt people ever to run for office. Even fundamentalist Christians supported and continue to support Trump despite his 27+ allegations of sexual assault and his lifetime of corrupt business practices and outright scams. Conservatives believe that they deserve power and to obtain and retain power, they will throw out EVERY other principle. Family values? Gone. Fiscal responsibility? Gone. National Security? Gone.

This "floating of impeachment" is simply Conservatives throwing away any belief in Democracy and Rule of Law, so that they can regain power. If President Biden did anything actually worthy of impeachment, I would be in line with the process. Thing is, he hasn't and won't because he has a LONG and DEMONSTRABLE record of honorable service to the United States. I am saying this as a person who was not thrilled about the idea of Biden running again. I have disagreements with some of his policy proposals and his views about the political landscape. HOWEVER, I can see that he is a compassionate and caring person, and that he does his damn homework. He may have gaffes and may go off script at times, but he is studied and has really good people around him, THAT HE LISTENS TO.

Conservatives are not acting in good faith and I wish the media would report that fact. This is not "politics" it is PARTISANSHIP which will continue to damage the nation if left unchecked.

Hugin

(33,222 posts)
23. They had better not screw up and impeach him three times...
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:27 PM
Sep 2022

I can hear Orange Julius Caesar busting a diaper about it now.

Hey! I want more impeachments than anybody!

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
24. Funny story about victims of their own deflecting?
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:41 PM
Sep 2022

How many times will the traitors try to drag Hunter or the non-existent laptop, it's the storage medium that matters, morons.

The debunked shit should be tossed right back them, every time!

Meanwhile old crusty dementia don goes out freely lying through his desperate orange suck hole with his Greatest Hits Collection, you know the ones:

What About
It Was Rigged
Hillary's Emails
They Stole The Election
Hunter's Laptop
Biden Has Dementia
People Tell Me
I'll Have To Get Back To You On That
Those Documents Are Mine
Big Man Came Up To Me With Tears In His Eyes
Only I Can Fix It
Don't Be Too Nice To Them
Little Marco
Very Stable Genius
Why Are People So Mean
Covfefe
I Know All The Best People
If She Weren't My Daughter I'd Be Dating Her
AND MANY MORE!

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