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speak easy

(9,339 posts)
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 11:24 PM Oct 2022

More Bad News: COVID may trigger an Immune Attack on the Brain.

(what, me worry?) Young people take note.

Immune reactions to severe Covid may trigger brain problems, study finds

Severe Covid infections can cause immune reactions that damage nerve cells in the brain, causing memory problems and confusion, and potentially raising the risk of long-term health issues, research suggests.

Scientists at King’s College London found that a wayward immune response to the virus increased the death rate of neurons and had a “profound” impact on regeneration in the hippocampus region of the brain, which is crucial for learning and memory.

The findings are preliminary but suggest Covid can trigger neurological problems in patients without the virus having to infect the brain itself. The process is believed to underpin delirium in Covid patients, but may also contribute to brain fog and other problems experienced by people with long Covid.

“These neurological symptoms are very concerning for patients and their families, and the hope is that our research can help identify which treatments would be most appropriate to lessen or prevent these symptoms,” said Carmine Pariante, a professor of biological psychiatry at KCL’s Institute of Psychiatry, and senior author on the study.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/05/immune-reactions-to-severe-covid-may-trigger-brain-problems-study-finds
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More Bad News: COVID may trigger an Immune Attack on the Brain. (Original Post) speak easy Oct 2022 OP
I am currently traveling for business musette_sf Oct 2022 #1
ITA! I flew last week for the first time in months spooky3 Oct 2022 #2
You will be just fine OtterDave Oct 2022 #6
Unfortunately, wrong musette_sf Oct 2022 #11
Yes but YOU are doing just fine OtterDave Oct 2022 #12
I am fortunate musette_sf Oct 2022 #13
It's way early to reach this conclusion. Ms. Toad Oct 2022 #15
Yes, but most people will be just fine OtterDave Oct 2022 #16
More than 1 in 5 people have long-term consequences. Ms. Toad Oct 2022 #17
Sounds like it could easily be diagnosed as Alzheimer's Bayard Oct 2022 #3
I'm actually surprised at that MiniMe Oct 2022 #5
Same here too. Duppers Oct 2022 #8
Actually, that's good news. Ms. Toad Oct 2022 #4
+1 ty speak easy Oct 2022 #7
When Covid struck I warned people, pay attention to history. fightforfreedom Oct 2022 #9
Polio is over, speak easy Oct 2022 #10
This is actually good news, not bad. Ms. Toad Oct 2022 #14

musette_sf

(10,206 posts)
1. I am currently traveling for business
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 11:29 PM
Oct 2022

and I am SHOCKED! SHOCKED! that almost no one is masking on planes, and that only two of us in our workshop, out of some 30 people, are wearing masks.

I’m taking as few chances as possible because we are still learning shit like this about the disease.

spooky3

(34,507 posts)
2. ITA! I flew last week for the first time in months
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 11:34 PM
Oct 2022

and was the only one wearing a mask. The woman sitting next to me coughed incessantly. By the end of the week I had a positive COVID test. This is despite receiving all available vaccines.

I hope you’ll be ok, but if you feel sick please see a doctor soon; they can give you meds that will help knock it out more quickly.

musette_sf

(10,206 posts)
11. Unfortunately, wrong
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 07:45 PM
Oct 2022

Masked at all times except when eating, and I got it anyway. Not too bad and only one positive test, but I had to cancel another trip that I was supposed to leave for tomorrow.

musette_sf

(10,206 posts)
13. I am fortunate
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:21 PM
Oct 2022

that the combination of the vaccines I’ve had, whatever immunity I myself might genetically have, and amount of viral load I picked up in the strain I caught, all combined to make it a very minor event. Many others have not been so fortunate.

I feel just about back to normal today.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
15. It's way early to reach this conclusion.
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:50 PM
Oct 2022

I had a very mild case of COVID. 3-4 weeks later I was hospitalized with pancreatitis, a life-threatening condition. It (and two other conditions) were caused by COVID.

Simply avoiding death or severe acute symptoms does not mean that anyone who has had COVID is doing just fine.

 

OtterDave

(61 posts)
16. Yes, but most people will be just fine
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 11:08 PM
Oct 2022

I am glad you are doing better. That must have sucked.
I had COVID early on in the pandemic. It was like the worst flu I ever had! Not fun for sure.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
17. More than 1 in 5 people have long-term consequences.
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 01:03 AM
Oct 2022

For some, it is persistent neurological symptoms - my former employee is still struggling with brain fog a year after her infection. For others it is life-threatening conditions caused by COVID - strokes, heart attacks, or GI stuff (including pancreatitis). My GI system is not back to normal yet - and I have what may be the beginning of arthritis in my hands - a not uncommon consequence of COVID-triggered GI issues. So while your statement is technically accurate (around 80% will be likely be fine), there no diseases this casually contagious which leave 20% of those who contract it with long term - for some permanent and/or deadly - secondary diseases.

Our (collective) dismissal of COVID as an innocuous disease is incredibly irresponsible. We are courting a public health disaster.

Bayard

(22,184 posts)
3. Sounds like it could easily be diagnosed as Alzheimer's
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 11:41 PM
Oct 2022

"Memory problems and confusion,"

I'm still masking. Usually the only one, even at doctors' offices, dentist, physical therapist, you name it. I'm also hearing people saying they don't see the point in getting another booster now.

MiniMe

(21,722 posts)
5. I'm actually surprised at that
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 12:20 AM
Oct 2022

The doctors, dentists, and hospitals I have been near lately all have a mandatory mask policy. I was at the cardiologist on Wednesday, their office is part of the hospital. I had to have a mask on to enter the hospital and the doc office. The sign said don't take the mask off. Considering where I was, I had no desire to take my mask off.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
4. Actually, that's good news.
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 11:56 PM
Oct 2022

We already know COVID causes neurological symptoms. One of the first steps to addressing symptoms is to figure out what is causing them. This is the first potential cause I've seen identified of one of the debilitating symptoms of long COVID.

In addition, more that it has been identified, instead of randomly trying to connect long COVID symptoms to COVID, we can explore what other things this immune reaction might cause - so it's a double bonus.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
9. When Covid struck I warned people, pay attention to history.
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 07:04 AM
Oct 2022

It was clear Covid was extremely inflammatory. We know what this can do from history. I told people to watch the movie Awakenings which is based on a true story.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
14. This is actually good news, not bad.
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:47 PM
Oct 2022

The neurological symptoms have been known for a long time - it's nothing new that many people with long COVID have long-term memory and other neurological issues.

For the first time, we have at least a preliminary theory on the cause of what we already know is happening. The first step to curing/preventing the symptoms is knowing their cause.

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