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kentuck

(111,106 posts)
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 09:04 AM Oct 2022

"I want my documents back!"

TFG said to his followers on his webpage.

I feel like there needs to be a Trump Response Team on standby at all times. He has to be called on his bullshit and his lies. We cannot let them slide.

First of all, they are not "his" documents. By law, they belong to the National Archives and the American people.

Second of all, he has no "executive privilege" in regards to stealing national secrets and taking them to his country club. It is a crime. It is a serious crime.

Thirdly, he cannot lie to the FBI. That also is a crime.

Fourthly, he cannot obstruct a DOJ investigation by getting others to lie for him. That is a crime.

Also, he cannot wave a magic wand and change the classification of any document. That changes nothing.

He is not exempt from the laws of our Constitution.

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"I want my documents back!" (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2022 OP
Hmm, so now he's admitting that they were not planted ecstatic Oct 2022 #1
I fear we are screaming into the viod here. FalloutShelter Oct 2022 #2
This apeal by the trump team should have never been accepted by the SC, Thomas in this case JohnSJ Oct 2022 #3
Yes. The compromised judges and Trump's public wnylib Oct 2022 #16
I want criminals in jail. C_U_L8R Oct 2022 #4
"there needs to be a Trump Response Team" brooklynite Oct 2022 #5
Are you saying Biden should have a TFG response team or us? Kaleva Oct 2022 #6
It is the responsibility of the media to inform the public. kentuck Oct 2022 #7
How do you intend to hold the media accountable? Kaleva Oct 2022 #9
Exposure is the only weapon we have. kentuck Oct 2022 #10
We can stop buying their newspapers or watching the cable news Kaleva Oct 2022 #11
Unless the media arm is a loss leader exboyfil Oct 2022 #14
Apparently he is. /eom Xoan Oct 2022 #8
Speaking from his high chair, the former president....... Turbineguy Oct 2022 #12
re: lying to the FBI SCantiGOP Oct 2022 #13
Just because he stole them doesn't make them his! Emile Oct 2022 #15
Why doesn't he just "think" KS Toronado Oct 2022 #17
Well, usually kings do but I thought 1776 was all about getting rid of them... Justice matters. Oct 2022 #18
Question: Prairie_Seagull Oct 2022 #19
QOP is planning on shitting all over The Constitution if they win the House and/or Senate in 2022. Tommymac Oct 2022 #20
Shit on it? Traildogbob Oct 2022 #22
" I WAS KING!"" WHHhaaaaaaa !!!________________________ n/t necessary. TeamProg Oct 2022 #21
Trump tells attorneys: Get 'my' classified documents back from the DOJ LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #23
Fox News is actively and openly aiding and abetting him. They need to be called out. Initech Oct 2022 #24
It's time to consider a scorched earth policy BlueIdaho Oct 2022 #25

ecstatic

(32,717 posts)
1. Hmm, so now he's admitting that they were not planted
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 09:12 AM
Oct 2022

Not that anyone believed him. 🙄 This is the same routine we've seen from him for years now: deny --> (chaos) --> confess --> (chaos) --> deflect --> (new crime exposed) --> rinse / repeat.

Lawmakers, the media, and Justice officials get spun around and confused and then everything is swept under the rug.

FalloutShelter

(11,872 posts)
2. I fear we are screaming into the viod here.
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 09:13 AM
Oct 2022

We passionately care about justice, honesty, and the law.
The GOP DOES NOT. No lie is too bald faced to shame them or make them care.
They only care about power.
The lust for power and control of the “other” (us) has corrupted everything.
You must get exhausted pointing this out. I know I am.

JohnSJ

(92,273 posts)
3. This apeal by the trump team should have never been accepted by the SC, Thomas in this case
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 09:21 AM
Oct 2022

Even asking the DOJ to present arguments in a week is a dangerous precedent, which implies that trump has "ownership" to classified documents.

He does not

There is something very sick going on, and it is pretty clear there are judges in high places that have been compromised



wnylib

(21,509 posts)
16. Yes. The compromised judges and Trump's public
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 10:46 AM
Oct 2022

demands for the return of "his" documents are very dangerous signs in the ongoing coup. This is very bad.

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
5. "there needs to be a Trump Response Team"
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 09:26 AM
Oct 2022

Weren't we supposed to ignore Trump's social media rants? Especially when they're limited to TS?

Kaleva

(36,315 posts)
9. How do you intend to hold the media accountable?
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 09:42 AM
Oct 2022

They are a for profit business and their main priority is to make money for their owners or investors

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
10. Exposure is the only weapon we have.
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 09:47 AM
Oct 2022

And it's not like we are the NY Times.

If they shirk their responsibility, there is a minimal amount we can do.

Kaleva

(36,315 posts)
11. We can stop buying their newspapers or watching the cable news
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 09:48 AM
Oct 2022

Lower viewers and readers will lower profits.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
14. Unless the media arm is a loss leader
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 10:42 AM
Oct 2022

So what if the media side loses money. If tax and other policy decisions end up with more cash in the oligarchs pocket, then all is good for them.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
13. re: lying to the FBI
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 10:42 AM
Oct 2022

I knew a guy who spent 6 months in the federal pen for lying before a grand jury. It turned out that the penalty for lying to the FBI would have been more severe than the grand jury charge that he pled to.

KS Toronado

(17,274 posts)
17. Why doesn't he just "think"
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 11:07 AM
Oct 2022

about changing everything in his favor making all his problems go away?
Gods can do that right?

Justice matters.

(6,935 posts)
18. Well, usually kings do but I thought 1776 was all about getting rid of them...
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 11:23 AM
Oct 2022

Thousands died bravely to get rid of them.

Here. Where are we now at?

We only want Equal Justice for All criminals, no matter the positions they stole before!

Prairie_Seagull

(3,330 posts)
19. Question:
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 11:23 AM
Oct 2022

What if he were legally restricted from running for any local, state or federal office ad infinitum. in trade for returning said documents and no Jail time? Note, He could still be convicted.

For me, while I think this is a little bit attractive from an efficiency perspective, as a country I think our constitution demands it's pound of flesh. (there is a easy joke in there)

My wife says laughingly "only with a wide ranging mea culpa"

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
20. QOP is planning on shitting all over The Constitution if they win the House and/or Senate in 2022.
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 11:42 AM
Oct 2022

THAT is why TFG is trying to extend the game.

He, and the rest of the QOP, know that as soon as they get 2/3rds of the reins of power back, Democracy and The Constitution is dead.

THAT is why they NEED to keep control of The Court.

THAT is why The Democrats ignoring expanding it to 11 or 13 puts all of US at peril.

It also explains the literally killer comedy team of Abbot & DeathSentance, and H.Walker, and Gaetz, and MTG, and Cruz, and Rubio, and Hawley.

They all THINK they are going to remain in power REGARDLESS of the Vote totals.

And the ONLY SURE way to defeat their nefarious purposes is to Rock The Vote and cause a HUGE Blue Wave at the polls.

One that cannot be overcome by any sort of shenanigans by the traitorous rethuglican party in toto. All of them - not just Maga't idiots.



Traildogbob

(8,762 posts)
22. Shit on it?
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 11:55 AM
Oct 2022

No, they want to replace it with the BuyBull and we “have” to believe their vague interpretation of the words.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,374 posts)
23. Trump tells attorneys: Get 'my' classified documents back from the DOJ
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 04:24 PM
Oct 2022

TFG is nuts.



https://www.rawstory.com/trump-classified-docs/

"Trump wasn’t merely referring to the alleged trove of attorney-client material that he insists was scooped up by the feds, two people familiar with the matter tell Rolling Stone," reported Asawin Suebsaeng and Adam Rawnsley. "The ex-president has been demanding that his team find a way to recover 'all' of the official documents that Trump has long referred to as 'mine' — including the highly sensitive and top secret ones."

"Sources close to Trump agree with outside legal experts that such a sweeping legal maneuver would be a long-shot, at best. 'I hate to break it to the [former] president, but I do not think he is going to get all [the] top-secret documents back,' says one Trump adviser. 'That ship has probably sailed,'" said the report. "Further, several longtime Trump advisers say they want absolutely nothing to do with the now-infamous boxes of documents, fearing that any knowledge of them could invite an unwanted knock on the door from the feds. 'Who would want any of that back? … If it is what they say it is, keep them the hell away,' a second adviser says."

According to previous reports, some of the documents are classified at the highest level, and may involve nuclear weapons secrets.

Another recent report indicated that Trump had over 300 classified documents stashed at Mar-a-Lago — and that he personally sorted through all the documents to determine which ones he wanted to hold back from the National Archives, a potential sign he was aware of the risk to national security but went through with it anyway.

"The former president’s office claimed recently that Trump had issued a so-called 'standing order' to automatically declassify any materials taken from the West Wing in order to facilitate a flexible work schedule for the then-president," said the report. "Thus far, no Trump administration veterans have come forward to attest to the existence of the legally questionable order. But it has prompted, as Rolling Stone reported last week, FBI agents to begin questioning former members of the Trump National Security Council about whether they have any recollection of such an order."

TFG needs to hire some real attorneys if he wants to get this result

Initech

(100,087 posts)
24. Fox News is actively and openly aiding and abetting him. They need to be called out.
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 04:29 PM
Oct 2022

As far as I'm concerned, Fox News should be treated like an enemy of the state.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
25. It's time to consider a scorched earth policy
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 04:30 PM
Oct 2022

On all Trump properties. With any luck he’ll be in one when we set a torch to it.

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