Michael Moore's Prediction On The Election

[gab13by13]

Sadly Moore was right about the 2016 election, 538 was wrong. Moore has a much different prediction for the 2022 election which he has named "the election of Roevember,"

Moore's biggest criticism of what is hurting Democrats is that the MSM is pushing the narrative that Democrats are going to lose which depresses turnout.

Moore comes up with some very persuasive arguments why the MSM is going to be wrong.

I love Moore's prediction and his optimism.

https://www.rawstory.com/michael-moore-predicts-democrats-will-win-big-in-the-midterms-could-he-be-right-again/

[leftyladyfrommo]

1. I sure hope he's right abd I think he may be. nt

[Srkdqltr]

2. Scary, because Moore isn't usually optimistic.

[betsuni]

3. He predicted Romney would win against Obama because Romney raised more money.

That only a beloved celebrity like Oprah, Tom Hanks, Michelle Obama, Sully Sullenberger, Meryl Streep could win in 2020.

But good for him for supporting Democrats! (He did finally support Hillary late in 2016 but then spent years repeating the conspiracy theory that the primary was rigged.)

[Kid Berwyn]

4. Donna Brazile found it was no theory.

Inside Hillary Clinton’s Secret Takeover of the DNC

When I was asked to run the Democratic Party after the Russians hacked our emails, I stumbled onto a shocking truth about the Clinton campaign.

By DONNA BRAZILE
Politico Magazine, November 02, 2017

Excerpt…

The agreement—signed by Amy Dacey, the former CEO of the DNC, and Robby Mook with a copy to Marc Elias—specified that in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff. The DNC also was required to consult with the campaign about all other staffing, budgeting, data, analytics, and mailings.

I had been wondering why it was that I couldn’t write a press release without passing it by Brooklyn. Well, here was the answer.

When the party chooses the nominee, the custom is that the candidate’s team starts to exercise more control over the party. If the party has an incumbent candidate, as was the case with Clinton in 1996 or Obama in 2012, this kind of arrangement is seamless because the party already is under the control of the president. When you have an open contest without an incumbent and competitive primaries, the party comes under the candidate’s control only after the nominee is certain. When I was manager of Al Gore’s campaign in 2000, we started inserting our people into the DNC in June. This victory fund agreement, however, had been signed in August 2015, just four months after Hillary announced her candidacy and nearly a year before she officially had the nomination.

I had tried to search out any other evidence of internal corruption that would show that the DNC was rigging the system to throw the primary to Hillary, but I could not find any in party affairs or among the staff. I had gone department by department, investigating individual conduct for evidence of skewed decisions, and I was happy to see that I had found none. Then I found this agreement.

The funding arrangement with HFA and the victory fund agreement was not illegal, but it sure looked unethical. If the fight had been fair, one campaign would not have control of the party before the voters had decided which one they wanted to lead. This was not a criminal act, but as I saw it, it compromised the party’s integrity.

Continues…

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/

[JI7]

9. She was trying to sell a book. She admitted there was nothing rigged in an interview afterwards

when pressed on this .

She also claimed that in September of 2016 they were considering replacing Hillary on the ballot with Biden.

Sanders isn't a victim. SAnders was the one that had the real troll with Tulsi Gabbard supporting the Russian attacks on Hillary and claiming DNC conspiracy. And idiots still continue to push it instead of admitting their candidate lost .

[Kid Berwyn]

18. Call me an idiot or a loser, I don't care which.

Can’t control what you or anyone say or think. I do care about my integrity, however. That’s why it bothers me to know the DNC did not provide a level playing field in 2016.

[FoxNewsSucks]

19. It wasn't "rigged", that's just how the system worked.

The "establishment" candidate will likely always be able to use that kind of system more effectively.

That's really all there is to it. Denying that is just as stupid and annoying as claiming some vast "conspiracy".

[JI7]

23. Sanders has been in office for decades. He IS the establishment

[FoxNewsSucks]

26. "Establishment" is determined by policy and associations, not tenure.

[JI7]

27. so being critical of planned parenthood makes him anti establishment

[wnylib]

34. No, but being an Idependent means that, although he

caucuses with the Democratic Party, he is not a member of the Democratic Party establishment. Party establishments usually support their own party members. That's just how the political system operates. Within a party, who is "the establishment" can change over time, as the Republicans are demonstrating now.

[jaxexpat]

17. Hey, it's Politico.

[Kid Berwyn]

20. True. It's also Donna Brazile.

As for Politico, its founder, Joe L. Allbritton, has the connected-Aspen roots that tie the LBJ and Bush clans together. From his obit:

He was a key member of a generation of Houstonians — including George H.W. Bush and LBJ aide Jack Valenti — who leveraged their Texas achievements and connections into outsize Washington careers. Valenti, who died in 2007, was one of Allbritton’s closest friends; the 41st president was a regular at the annual brunch Allbritton and his wife, Barbara, held at their Washington home on the morning after the Alfalfa dinner, an exclusive gathering of top business and political leaders.

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/joe-allbritton-dies-at-87-85004.html

Swells.

[jaxexpat]

35. Good point, excellent detail.

[betsuni]

37. Brazile on "rigging": "I found no evidence, none whatsoever" ABC "This Week" November 2017.

Conspiracy theory. She took it back because it wasn't true.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/05/politics/donna-brazile-primary-rigged/index.html

[jalan48]

41. Brazile: Leaking town hall topics to Clinton campaign 'mistake I will forever regret'

This was from March of 2017

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/donna-brazile-hillary-clinton-leak-regret-236184

[W_HAMILTON]

42. She told Clinton that there would be a question on the Flint water crisis....

...at a townhall in Flint.

Gee, thanks for the heads up, Donna!

[betsuni]

44. This is why I don't understand the big deal.

As if Hillary didn't know. She was the first candidate to talk about the Flint water crisis on TV and bring attention to it, worked with the local government to do something about it.

[bucolic_frolic]

5. He's no weathervane

[gab13by13]

6. I would listen to him over 90% of the MSM pundits.

[mountain grammy]

8. Yep me too.

[NCDem47]

13. I think he's out in the community a lot

Especially Mid-West.

He picks up on moods and trends pollsters and MSM don't quite reach. He's not affraid to engage the other side.

[anamnua]

43. Me too

[mnhtnbb]

7. The media still hasn't figured out

that what they think is irrelevant because they couldn't find their a$$holes if they had flashlights up their butts.

There will be a massive turnout of voters in November and when turnout is high, Democrats win.

[multigraincracker]

14. The media's job is to make a buck and give

share holders value. Bottom line.

[gab13by13]

15. Why did they fire Keith Olbermann and Dylan Ratigan?

The MSM is owned and managed by domestic right wing oligarchs.

Think of how it sways talking points;

A fence is now a wall.
A search is a raid.
Democrat is an adjective.
How many cable news anchors say Biden instead of President Biden?

[llashram]

25. exactly+++

most are RW owned and operated. Now. Just look at what's happening at CNN. They kissed trumps ass for the years he was the fascist-racist figurehead of the Republikkkan Party. Sadly this is the case now as never before.

[Farmer-Rick]

33. And don't think public radio is any better

I listen to NPR the other day because I was bored.

They happily trotted out all the GOPers' talking points with no push back or challenge of any kind. And the weird thing is that all their talking points are illogical and some of them are downright fallacies.

But they were carefully spewed out onto their listeners while the host said nothing.

[mitch96]

24. Yup, follow the money...nt

[msfiddlestix]

21. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t

[gab13by13]

10. He gave some encouraging examples

we can draw from, and I am definitely stealing his phrase, Roevember.

Wife and I voted already in Pa. we planned to mail our ballots tomorrow; 2 votes for Fetterman, 2 votes for Shapiro. We put 2 stamps on the envelop no matter what the nice lady at the post office tells us.

[FakeNoose]

22. +2

[Joinfortmill]

11. SCOTUS assured the Dems turnout.

[Tommymac]

30. No, we can't think that way. No assurances. We need action to make Roevember a reality.

GOTV like Our Democracy depends on it.

It does.



#GOTV2022
#ROEVEMBER2022
#BLUEWAVE2022
#VOTEBLUE2022

[grantcart]

12. Well his first example of a progressive Democrat winning on Boise is laughable

In most red states the cities are overwhelmingly Democratic. In Tucson and Phoenix Republicans don't even run a candidate. Salt Lake City mayor, Democratic


In the 2019 Boise mayoral election the top two candidates were Democrats and accounted for 75% of the vote. The winner? A progressive woman from Boston.

He may be right about November but his first example is laughable. Obama's largest caucus win was in Boise, the caucus was so big that it was held in an indoor stadium, the YouTube recording of it was one of the most watched of the campaign. I believe it was about 8,000 in attendance.

He may be right about November but characterizing Boise as a "red city in a red state" is embarrassing.

[DownriverDem]

16. I get his precictions

in an email. I sure hope he is right. 538 predicts that there is a 70% chance that the MAGA repubs will win the House. That would be 2 years of pure hell.

[Farmer-Rick]

28. One reason I am leaning towards believing Moore over 538

Is because new voters are hard to poll.

State polling is kind of bad anyway. It's not as well funded as national polling. Predicting individual state results requires a deep dive into issues and priorities of the state. So it's a lot of work to do for just one state result. So, keep that in mind when looking at the polling data on 538.

New voters are really hard to predict through polling. Most polls like to look at likely voters or prior voters but frequently those 2 statistics rarely look at new voters. How would you even measure new voters unless you had access to registration rolls up to the last minute.

That's why Obama's win was such a surprise when he won in an avalanche of votes.

New voters are more motivated. They sought out and did all the stupid paperwork to register to vote for a reason. There is something in particular that's motivating them. I think taking away women's rights is the motivator.

I hope American women realize that if they don't vote now, they may not be able to vote later because the Supremely Religious Court has talked about overturning the 19th amendment too, because it wasn't in the original constitution, and to the Supremes, god hates women.

So, I suspect there maybe an avalanche of votes hidden from the oligarchs controlling our major media outlets.

[appleannie1]

29. I don't know about other women but:

I have caller ID and field all my calls and only answer if I know who is on the phone. Therefore I have not participated in any polls.
I will quietly go to the polls on election day if I have to crawl to get there and will vote straight Dem. Where I live that is only the big names like Fetterman and Shapiro because I live in a red county. Democrats don't even make up a third of the registered voters so Democrats rarely waste their money running for local office simply because they can't win.

[PatSeg]

32. Same here

I haven't participated in a political poll in over a decade. I'm still trying to figure out WHO they are polling. I don't know anyone who answers their phone if they don't know the caller.

[getagrip_already]

31. may he suffer only a slighter brighter fate than tfg and putin

He is an egotist and likely cost us the 2016 election.

May he rot in silence.

[W_HAMILTON]

40. Fuck Michael Moore.

[Pepsidog]

36. I remember reading his prediction in 2016 and got a sinking feeling in my stomach. I got up and read

it to my wife who was in the other room. He nailed it exactly. And, I think he is absolutely correct about the upcoming election. It is beyond my imagination to see how Republicans can win with all that Biden has done for the country and all the Republicans have done to to endanger us all. Women will come out in hordes, people are angry at republicans and SCOTUS and will let them know at the ballot box. The MSM is totally out of synch with the mood of the country and invested in pushing Republican talking points. Every time I hear CNN pushing Republican garbage I want to vomit. Trump is DONE. He has his flock but they can't help him anymore and he sounds like a raving lunatic and his crowd doesn't respond like they once did.

[Polybius]

38. His predictions are interesting

He always predicts the opposite of what the polls and professionals say. He was right in 2016, but he was wrong in 2012 and 2020.

[anamnua]

45. I think what he did in 2020 was to issue a vital warning:

'We can take nothing for granted. Trump will win -- unless.....'

[milestogo]

39. I'm trying to picture a Blue Tsunami that will be totally denied by Republicans...

It will look like people standing in Fort Myers saying that Hurricane Ian was a "hoax".