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babylonsister

(171,107 posts)
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 08:53 AM Oct 2022

Biden just made Obamacare better

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/10/11/2128374/-Biden-just-made-Obamacare-better

Biden just made Obamacare better
Joan McCarter
Daily Kos Staff
Tuesday October 11, 2022 · 6:42 PM EDT
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He said he was going to do it, and he did it. President Joe Biden just made the Affordable Care Act (ACA) that much better, that much more affordable for more than 5.1 million people, about 2.8 million of them children who have been priced out. As of next year, the ‘family glitch’ is history, a fix more than eight years in the making.

When lawmakers were writing the law, they found what they thought might be a relatively harmless saving: people who had access to health care through their jobs that was too expensive could get subsidies to help pay for ACA coverage—but only for themselves, and not their families. That cut millions of family members out of affordable coverage. Employers are generally pretty generous when it comes to providing coverage for individuals, paying about 83% of the cost of insurance for them. But on average, they only pick up 73% of the cost for families. What could cost an individual $7,470 out of pocket annually could cost $21,342 for the average family, and the ACA couldn’t help.

That’s done now. The IRS has finalized the rule change to make sure that affordability—what percentage of the paycheck would have to go toward coverage—is based on family premiums as necessary. In 2022, the threshold for “affordability” of employer-sponsored coverage is 9.61% of household income; if insurance costs ate up more than that, then you would qualify for an individual subsidy under the ACA. It’s going to drop to 9.12% in 2023—and will apply to whole family coverage instead of individual.

This is why we have to keep electing Democrats, by the way. Because they still are working to make life better for as many people as they can. Do you what you can to help these races up and down the ballot across the country.

The White House, in announcing the intent of fix the glitch, estimated that about 200,000 currently uninsured people would gain coverage with the fix.

The IRS, in the final rule, was cautious in its estimates. It predicts anywhere from 600,000 to 2.3 million newly eligible people would enroll in new ACA coverage, and between 80,000 and 700,000 currently uninsured individuals could gain coverage, which is a pretty big variable. The White House’s decision to land in the low-middle range of that estimate was probably a good bet.

This is not sexy stuff. It’s wonky and boring and no one—no one!—likes to talk about health insurance. But it really, really matters to the millions of people who fell through that one specific crack, and it happened because Democrats really do still care about doing policy stuff that helps people.

It’s not universal coverage and not universal care, by any means, but it’s still good and still fulfilling President Joe Biden’s promise to make Obamacare better. Which is absolutely fine by Mr. Obama.



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Biden just made Obamacare better (Original Post) babylonsister Oct 2022 OP
K&R spanone Oct 2022 #1
K&R Beartracks Oct 2022 #2
Thank you President Biden dickthegrouch Oct 2022 #3
K & R...for visibility...nt Wounded Bear Oct 2022 #4
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Oct 2022 #5
That's a big deal for many American families IronLionZion Oct 2022 #6
And the Republicans still want to destroy it. What pricks. Cyrano Oct 2022 #7
And idiots vote for them and think Republicans are just better at economics. Ligyron Oct 2022 #18
KNR niyad Oct 2022 #8
I never had an employer plan cover House of Roberts Oct 2022 #9
The media is not reporting on Biden's successes at all, including the brokering of Bev54 Oct 2022 #10
same here. Those MSM biased idiots. onetexan Oct 2022 #19
You're right. BigmanPigman Oct 2022 #35
I currently pay $1955 per month MontanaMama Oct 2022 #11
A public option for self employed would be a wonderful help Unwind Your Mind Oct 2022 #22
Boy howdy. MontanaMama Oct 2022 #26
My husband and I are on the ACA and have been for years. I'm self-employed and bought private LaMouffette Oct 2022 #25
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. MontanaMama Oct 2022 #27
You're welcome! And it didn't sound like you were trashing it at all. I'm afraid I might sound that LaMouffette Oct 2022 #30
I agree the big problem with the aca is it benefits people who do worse questionseverything Oct 2022 #34
That sounds great! catrose Oct 2022 #28
This is huge. The last couple of private insurance plans we had through employment paid Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #12
Seriously how can anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence kacekwl Oct 2022 #13
K&R betsuni Oct 2022 #14
I shopped my health insurance this year. ACA would be 60% of what my employer pays. ffr Oct 2022 #15
That's impressive PatSeg Oct 2022 #16
universal health care . when AllaN01Bear Oct 2022 #17
When all those who SAY they want it vote for those who can make it happen? Hortensis Oct 2022 #21
In graphic form ... Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #29
Wonderful! pandr32 Oct 2022 #20
Nice. Now restore the child tax credit and decriminalize MJ librechik Oct 2022 #23
And the funniest part is that Fox News coined the nickname "Obamacare" for the ACA. DetlefK Oct 2022 #24
Love you, Joe! Cozmo Oct 2022 #31
So happy for this Hekate Oct 2022 #32
Kick dalton99a Oct 2022 #33
ROCK STAR BIDEN!!! TigressDem Oct 2022 #36
K n R ! Thanks for posting! JoeOtterbein Oct 2022 #37

IronLionZion

(45,615 posts)
6. That's a big deal for many American families
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 09:35 AM
Oct 2022

But an IRS rule change likely won't get the same level of attention as inflation or crime in time for this election.

Ligyron

(7,645 posts)
18. And idiots vote for them and think Republicans are just better at economics.
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 11:12 AM
Oct 2022

Nope, Just a whole lot better at messaging and controlling the narrative.

Bev54

(10,088 posts)
10. The media is not reporting on Biden's successes at all, including the brokering of
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:32 AM
Oct 2022

a maritime deal between Lebanon and Israel, after decades of disagreement. I have not heard one television outlet reporting on it, just print media.

BigmanPigman

(51,650 posts)
35. You're right.
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 08:37 PM
Oct 2022

I have not heard of it at all until I checked out DU today.

This site rocks. I wish the average American had this much info avail to them. Of course they do but they are too busy or lazy to get real news. So sad.

MontanaMama

(23,366 posts)
11. I currently pay $1955 per month
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:35 AM
Oct 2022

for health insurance for my little family of three. We have a $4500 per person deductible on top of that. I’ll have to read the fine print to see if this will help me. Small business owners and self employed people get priced out the older that they get because age is the easiest way insurance companies gouge people.

MontanaMama

(23,366 posts)
26. Boy howdy.
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 02:22 PM
Oct 2022

You've got that right. Small business owners are the back bone of this country!! We're job creators.

LaMouffette

(2,042 posts)
25. My husband and I are on the ACA and have been for years. I'm self-employed and bought private
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 01:18 PM
Oct 2022

insurance for over a decade until it became too expensive. I actually went without insurance for a couple of years (yikes!) until the ACA came along. It's been a godsend for us.

The biggest drawback for us is the earnings income limit. There used to be an ACA "subsidy cliff" where if you go over your earnings limit you have to pay back the WHOLE subsidy for that year. Without the subsidy, we would be paying about $19,000 a year for health insurance (and we have no medical issues, thank God). So with the "subsidy cliff," if I had gone over my estimated earnings that I had stated on the application by even $1.00, we would have had to pay back $19,000! They suspended the subsidy cliff for a couple of years due to Covid, but I think they're bringing it back, not sure when.

So being self-employed, I made the decision to work less and earn below the earnings limit so that we could be on the ACA health insurance rather than working twice as hard as I ever had just to pay for outrageously overpriced private health insurance. We have a big deductible ($6,000) on the lowest coverage program (Bronze), but it was a huge deductible when I had private insurance, too.

It's extremely aggravating having to limit my earnings because health insurance is unaffordable otherwise, but on the other hand, it has forced me to slow down and have a less stressful existence.

Anyway, you might check out the ACA website to see if it would work for you and your family. They have a walk-through thing where you can get an idea what you might qualify for before you actually apply for ACA coverage. I believe the website is healthcare.org.

Good luck!

MontanaMama

(23,366 posts)
27. Thanks for your thoughtful reply.
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 02:31 PM
Oct 2022

When I left my "regular" job to work for our family businesses, we qualified for insurance through the ACA two years and got a little bit of subsidy to help out. As our second small business took off (we're fortunate, I know...that doesn't always happen) we no longer were able to get the subsidy and had to find insurance on the open market. We can still get insurance via healthcare.org but the prices are the same as what we're paying now so it isn't worth it to deal with the paperwork and endless emails from healthcare.gov

The ACA did so much good for so many people. I hope this doesn't sound like I'm trashing it because I'm not. The problem is that there's a huge loophole for self employed people and small business owners where coverage is beyond expensive...more than my mortgage, power, water and garbage combined! I write my congress critter annually but he's a tRump humper so he's not at all interested in helping anyone but himself.

LaMouffette

(2,042 posts)
30. You're welcome! And it didn't sound like you were trashing it at all. I'm afraid I might sound that
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 04:58 PM
Oct 2022

way at times, but I truly am grateful for the program and SO proud of President Obama, Vice President (at the time) Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and all the rest of the Dems for making it happen. It really is an amazing accomplishment, considering that the Republicans threw everything they had at it in their attempt to stop its passing. And they're still trying to destroy it!

Cheers!

P.S. I'm in MT, too, and cannot wait for the day when our beautiful state turns blue, or at least purple!

questionseverything

(9,666 posts)
34. I agree the big problem with the aca is it benefits people who do worse
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 05:17 PM
Oct 2022

Imagine all the self employed people scaling back on productivity so they don’t get clobbered with a huge insurance premium bill…. It hurts gdp and that hurts everyone

catrose

(5,078 posts)
28. That sounds great!
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 03:14 PM
Oct 2022

Given that we pay all our own Social Security, a break on insurance would be fabulous.

Demsrule86

(68,773 posts)
12. This is huge. The last couple of private insurance plans we had through employment paid
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:37 AM
Oct 2022

nothing except well-care until you reached 6500 and 10,000 respectively. We paid everything out of pocket with the help of a medical HMO which is still our money. This will allow families to leave shitty workplace plans and have decent insurance -the ACA. It also brings us one step closer to universal coverage. I hope we can get folks who live in states that did not expand Medicaid some help too soon. The GOP will never end the ACA if we continue to make it better. The subsidies were raised in time also by the Democrats. Hoping we save the House and the Senate this year! Vote!!!!!!!!!!

kacekwl

(7,025 posts)
13. Seriously how can anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:38 AM
Oct 2022

watch these 2 men and one woman and compare them to ANY republican and still vote republican is completely baffling to me. It's truly good vs. evil.

ffr

(22,676 posts)
15. I shopped my health insurance this year. ACA would be 60% of what my employer pays.
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:42 AM
Oct 2022

I couldn't believe the benefits. ACA coverage, for me, would be less this year than what I was paying when I originally had ACA health plans. It was beyond affordable! But for me with my employer covering the higher fees of another plan, thus no cost to me, that's the coverage I chose this year going forward.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. When all those who SAY they want it vote for those who can make it happen?
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 11:33 AM
Oct 2022

In our lifetimes that's always been the Democratic Party when voters give it enough power, and no one else. Can't make everyone smart or honest with themselves, of course, so that quick way has never happened.

Instead, we have to wait for the times when enough sensible people and other factors intersect in time to make it happen, or, as in this case, move us that much farther toward it.

Itm, we can support progress just by acknowledging it when it happens and saying no to hypocrisy when it whines.

librechik

(30,678 posts)
23. Nice. Now restore the child tax credit and decriminalize MJ
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 12:19 PM
Oct 2022

and we will be paradise on earth, sorta. Better anyway. Everybody out of prison!

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
24. And the funniest part is that Fox News coined the nickname "Obamacare" for the ACA.
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 12:32 PM
Oct 2022

They were running a constant droning in 2012 about everything-about-Obama-is-bad, and so they tied Obama's name to the ACA in order to make it easier for Republicans to hate it.

The irony? A landmark-healthcare-legislation now bears the name of a democratic President, permanently, now and forever. Thanks, Republicans!

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
36. ROCK STAR BIDEN!!!
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:36 PM
Oct 2022

OK... well MAYBE Obama is still more rock star than BIDEN, BUT slugger JOE keeps hitting them out of the ballpark!


AND ROCKSTARS DO PERFORM AT JOE'S events, vs calling tRump et all and saying, "NO stop using my music."




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