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Morning Consult Poll October 21-23 (Original Post) lees1975 Oct 2022 OP
Good to see Johnny2X2X Oct 2022 #1
In favor of one with 700 adults instead of 7000 likely voters lees1975 Oct 2022 #2
MC uses paid online surveys Sympthsical Oct 2022 #3
They're rated B on 538. W_HAMILTON Oct 2022 #5
Look at the 2020 results on 538 Sympthsical Oct 2022 #6
I did. That's where I got my information from. W_HAMILTON Oct 2022 #7
It's not even worth arguing Sympthsical Oct 2022 #8
'wishcasting' Celerity Oct 2022 #9
I'm sorry I rebutted yet another of your attempts to depress Democrats. W_HAMILTON Oct 2022 #10
I already voted Sympthsical Oct 2022 #11
"No single rain drop thinks it's responsible for the flood." W_HAMILTON Oct 2022 #12
these are likely voters where ratios can be manipulated. Democrats are probably doing better than samsingh Oct 2022 #4

Sympthsical

(9,081 posts)
3. MC uses paid online surveys
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 10:35 AM
Oct 2022

That's why you see that number of responses. They're not very good. Always heavily tilted towards Democrats. (see their 2020 polls and note the actual results).

I wouldn't hang my hat on it.

W_HAMILTON

(7,869 posts)
5. They're rated B on 538.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 10:58 AM
Oct 2022

And their polls correctly predicted the eventual outcome 83% of the time, including Biden winning Arizona and Georgia.

Sympthsical

(9,081 posts)
6. Look at the 2020 results on 538
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:01 AM
Oct 2022

Particularly the last week in October polls.

They're off by a lot, and almost always in our direction.

Weird to look at the 538 rating and not look at their actual polls on that same page. Is there a point to being that misleadingly selective about something?

W_HAMILTON

(7,869 posts)
7. I did. That's where I got my information from.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:05 AM
Oct 2022

They made some wrong calls (FL, etc.) and also plenty of right calls, including some very questionable ones at the time (AZ and GA, as I pointed out). As I said, they were right 83% of the time.

The only one being misleadingly selective here is you. Project much?

Sympthsical

(9,081 posts)
8. It's not even worth arguing
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:11 AM
Oct 2022

Attachment to wishcasting isn't something that can be debated.

Sometimes, you just have to feel the fantasy.

W_HAMILTON

(7,869 posts)
10. I'm sorry I rebutted yet another of your attempts to depress Democrats.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:32 AM
Oct 2022

But you should be happy that a reputable pollster with an 83% rate of calling races correctly showed some positive signs for Democrats in its latest poll, right fellow Democrat who wants Democrats to win and will vote for Democrats in the upcoming election?

Sympthsical

(9,081 posts)
11. I already voted
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:03 PM
Oct 2022

This is all academic for me. I like knowing what's actually going on rather than what I hope is going on. True things are better than wished for things.

If you can look at the list of MC October 2020 polls, see all the margins and how they're all heavily tilted Democratic to significant degrees vs. the actual results (with the exception of CO), and say, "I don't see the problem," that's just a choice you're making.

DU is a tiny corner of the internet. Nothing we post here makes one spec of difference. If I cared about altering election results, I'd be on Reddit, Facebook, or Twitter.

W_HAMILTON

(7,869 posts)
12. "No single rain drop thinks it's responsible for the flood."
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:44 PM
Oct 2022

And do you like to know what's going on? Do you really? When you refute good news and only amplify bad news? When you go out to discredit a reputable pollster that has an 83% accuracy rate in their polls? Can we find similar posts of yours calling out the Republican bias in several polls that have shown Democrats faring more poorly? Hmm?

And yet another "DU sucks" post from someone that has posted thousands and thousands of messages here. If we are insignificant and mean nothing in the greater scheme of things, why are you here? A sadistic hobby? A job?

samsingh

(17,599 posts)
4. these are likely voters where ratios can be manipulated. Democrats are probably doing better than
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 10:53 AM
Oct 2022

that.

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