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Ohioboy

(3,244 posts)
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:44 AM Oct 2022

I finally met one last night

I had an asshole tell me that he thought Putin would make a better leader than Biden. He said "Brandon" but I knew what he meant.

I knew there were people out there siding with Putin over Ukraine, but I had never actually met one that desired Putin as a leader.

This moron claimed he liked Putin because he was "more of a Capitalist than Marxist Brandon."

I felt like punching the fool, but didn't because I'm a peaceful man.

Not that long ago such a statement would have been totally unheard. It would have been considered unpatriotic, even treasonous. Now, morons sit on barstools and proclaim their desire for dictators.

This is not the America I grew up in.

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I finally met one last night (Original Post) Ohioboy Oct 2022 OP
You should have told him Putin is recruiting. If he loves Putin so much he should head to Russia. onecaliberal Oct 2022 #1
I never think of good come backs like that Ohioboy Oct 2022 #3
Ohio girl here. True Blue American Oct 2022 #60
Ooh, that IS a good one. Nt spooky3 Oct 2022 #5
You could also point out that Putin's Russia has very strict gun control laws. Lonestarblue Oct 2022 #12
WRONGO DENVERPOPS Oct 2022 #55
Yeah, a RUSTY one! 2naSalit Oct 2022 #58
And I'm sure Putin would welcome the services of a self-proclaimed "capitalist." calimary Oct 2022 #22
That was my thought soldierant Oct 2022 #52
That's when you hildegaard28 Oct 2022 #2
I would use"Leninist" as Vladimir Putin is more obsessed with grantcart Oct 2022 #50
...or the people in Russia don't have the freedoms that we have in the US. gab13by13 Oct 2022 #4
Actually, I did say something like that to him, but... Ohioboy Oct 2022 #8
They are delusional, and completely close-minded vlyons Oct 2022 #13
It's a cult indeed! OMGWTF Oct 2022 #25
You can't get through to them Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #33
No that is not my way vlyons Oct 2022 #35
Best advice,ever! True Blue American Oct 2022 #61
You run into a MAGAt KS Toronado Oct 2022 #14
it's widespread sadly. The propaganda has been very effective. Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #40
People like him long for the Gulag...for everyone else. nt Samrob Oct 2022 #6
What their baby brains (no disrespect meant to actual babies) don't get is that the very moment Carlitos Brigante Oct 2022 #65
You should have reminded him that if he was in Russia living under Putin now, he'd be scooped up Vinca Oct 2022 #7
+ 10,000 nt TigressDem Oct 2022 #9
Bingo! PatSeg Oct 2022 #11
This! calimary Oct 2022 #23
Yep more and more, everyday feels PatSeg Oct 2022 #10
Should have Rebl2 Oct 2022 #15
It's still treasonous relayerbob Oct 2022 #16
I'm happy for you markodochartaigh Oct 2022 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author IronLionZion Oct 2022 #27
The America I grew up in as well Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #34
Damn. Can't imagine staying there. Did you move away? Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #41
Yes, markodochartaigh Oct 2022 #62
OMG that is horrific. I'm so glad you escaped. You should write a book, but maybe too painful. Best, Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #63
YES DENVERPOPS Oct 2022 #64
You should have punched him, it's all they understand. Meadowoak Oct 2022 #18
Putin isn't a capitalist, we need to dispel that notion completely FakeNoose Oct 2022 #19
Well said. Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #42
I think that's how they understand "capitalist": "rich person... Beartracks Oct 2022 #44
The Magats have been overtaken with propaganda from right-wing media. It's disgusting. ificandream Oct 2022 #20
I met a young maga couple at the dmv, shortly after moving to this red hellhole (TN) SheltieLover Oct 2022 #21
Russian Army needs conscripts. He could go there and volunteer IronLionZion Oct 2022 #28
Works for me! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #29
How old was this fuckhead? Aviation Pro Oct 2022 #24
Mid to later 50s Ohioboy Oct 2022 #30
Figures..... Aviation Pro Oct 2022 #31
The Interceptor film on Netlix covers this deranged thinking IronLionZion Oct 2022 #26
I've seen it! It's really extreme hero stuff, but the plot was Ilsa Oct 2022 #47
Not to be snarky, but some of us, me included, have them as neighbors. My one young neighbor who has debm55 Oct 2022 #32
Right or wrong. Harker Oct 2022 #36
Haters gotta hate SouthernDem4ever Oct 2022 #37
You should have told him to get behind our president in a time of war. Unpatriotic bastard! ffr Oct 2022 #38
The U.S. has been here before. Listen to ULTRA, Rachel's new podcast series. It's hair raising. Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #39
Does she comment on whether it's worse today? Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #43
I'm on episode 2. Scary shit! Ilsa Oct 2022 #45
Tell him to move to fucking Russia, then. Tell him Ilsa Oct 2022 #46
He is mentally ill. BigmanPigman Oct 2022 #48
The Rich. The Wrong. Republicans. He hates everybody they hate. czarjak Oct 2022 #49
The hilarious part of this is that for 40 years Senator was an advocate grantcart Oct 2022 #51
That idiot hates the same groups as Putin. Like hate between the GOP and Vlad. sarcasmo Oct 2022 #53
fux gnews has been pimping putin for years. pansypoo53219 Oct 2022 #54
"This is not the America I grew up in" You noticed? Martin68 Oct 2022 #56
And the battle between light and darkness rages on Heather MC Oct 2022 #57
After 4 years of Trump the very last person I want to hear saying anything about President Biden is Emile Oct 2022 #59

onecaliberal

(32,899 posts)
1. You should have told him Putin is recruiting. If he loves Putin so much he should head to Russia.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:46 AM
Oct 2022

They need fighters.

Ohioboy

(3,244 posts)
3. I never think of good come backs like that
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:50 AM
Oct 2022

I wish I'd thought of that. If it ever happens again I certainly will.

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
60. Ohio girl here.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:53 AM
Oct 2022

They say things like that because they know it will get a reaction. The truth is they would run like scared rabbits if confronted.

You had what, a thousand who actually stormed the Capitol in the heat of the moment, brave because they were in a mob. Now the chips are down, the adrenaline is gone, in court they are whining like babies. Oh, consider my kids, my family,etc. I promise to be good.

Even that day most of the crowd left because they were too smart to get involved.

The Father who said Branden to the President on a Christmas call to his son was a poor example to his children!

Lonestarblue

(10,084 posts)
12. You could also point out that Putin's Russia has very strict gun control laws.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:22 PM
Oct 2022

He wouldn’t be able to have assault riles under Putin.

calimary

(81,507 posts)
22. And I'm sure Putin would welcome the services of a self-proclaimed "capitalist."
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 01:28 PM
Oct 2022

Yeah. That’s the ticket.

soldierant

(6,927 posts)
52. That was my thought
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:03 PM
Oct 2022

though Iwouldn't have phrased it quite as well.

If he really loves Putin that much, it would be reasonable that he'd like to do that.

hildegaard28

(391 posts)
2. That's when you
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:49 AM
Oct 2022

Tell them they're Commies. Putin was born a Communist, served in high level positions in the Communist regime. His beliefs in Communism haven't changed. If he's supporting Comrade Putin, he's actually a Communist.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
50. I would use"Leninist" as Vladimir Putin is more obsessed with
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 09:54 PM
Oct 2022

the concentration of political power (ala Vladimir Lenin) than Marxist theory, Socialist policy or Communist ideology.

gab13by13

(21,408 posts)
4. ...or the people in Russia don't have the freedoms that we have in the US.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:53 AM
Oct 2022

Once we lose our democracy we lose our freedom.

Ohioboy

(3,244 posts)
8. Actually, I did say something like that to him, but...
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:11 PM
Oct 2022

I don't think it made a difference. That is the depressing part.

He claimed Biden was "already a dictator", and that the insurrectionists who beat police on Jan 6 were in his words "political prisoners".


The right- wing propaganda machine has made logical discourse impossible in this country. So very depressing.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
13. They are delusional, and completely close-minded
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:24 PM
Oct 2022

They don't want to hear anything that pierces their delusions. Facts be damned. Evidence is all lies. To them, we are the evil "other." They make us wrong to make themselves feel "right." I feel very very sad, because I don't have the skillful words to get thru to them. I know that a big part that drives their hatred is plain ol' white racism. Add in "my religion is real, and yours is not." It's a cult.

OMGWTF

(3,976 posts)
25. It's a cult indeed!
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 01:42 PM
Oct 2022

My RWNJ 68-year-old brother-in-law has actually said that he doesn't want to hear anything that will change his core beliefs. He's a homophobe, broke, driving a 25-year-old car he inherited from his late father, never had a girlfriend or any friends, living in an old mobile home on SS and nothing else. Thank Goddess he doesn't vote.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
33. You can't get through to them
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:40 PM
Oct 2022

You can't reason a moron out of anything he didn't reason himself into.

Tell them they're braindead, anti-American trash, and walk away. Anything more is a waste of time and energy.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
35. No that is not my way
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:50 PM
Oct 2022

Anger is poison. Poison for them. Poison for me. Saying harsh angry hateful words brings no happiness or loving kindness into the world. It just creates more suffering and angry reactions. Best to not get sucked into bickering with them.

Carlitos Brigante

(26,505 posts)
65. What their baby brains (no disrespect meant to actual babies) don't get is that the very moment
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 12:20 PM
Oct 2022

one ends up in that type of system. All someone else who dislikes them, for whatever reason, has to do is acuse that person of not being loyal enough. And boom, next thing you know. They'll end up in the very same gulag they were hoping for the rest of us.

Vinca

(50,309 posts)
7. You should have reminded him that if he was in Russia living under Putin now, he'd be scooped up
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:07 PM
Oct 2022

and sent to the front and not necessarily trained or equipped. If he refused, he'd be making a nosedive out the window.

PatSeg

(47,608 posts)
10. Yep more and more, everyday feels
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:17 PM
Oct 2022

like Opposite Day in today's world. I find myself using the word "bizarre" an awfully lot these days.

markodochartaigh

(1,153 posts)
17. I'm happy for you
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:51 PM
Oct 2022

that this is not the America you grew up in. I grew up a half century ago in the reddest part of Texas. It is absolutely the "America that I grew up in". Much of the terminology has changed, when the people are not interested in introspection, much less in understanding the world, then terms are fungible or meaningless. People in those conditions organize their lives around gut feelings and beliefs. The underlying principle in Texas then, in Putin's Russia now, and in more and more of the US is authoritarianism. One characteristic of authoritarianism is its desire to metastasize, like many other cancers. If the US is very fortunate we may get a period like The Compromise of 1850 to prepare for the inevitable attempt to expand by the Authoritarian party, née Republican, and there may be enough US voters to overcome the gerrymandering, disenfranchisement, and suppression of the Authoritarian party.

Response to markodochartaigh (Reply #17)

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
34. The America I grew up in as well
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:41 PM
Oct 2022

People who had the privilege of growing up in non-moron areas have no idea how much stupid exists outside of liberal enclaves.

markodochartaigh

(1,153 posts)
62. Yes,
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 10:52 AM
Oct 2022

I'm gay and I have Asperger's. In seventh grade my classmates tried to set me on fire. The principal told my Mom that I would need to learn how to fight. In ninth grade my geography teacher told my class that I should be killed. I knew that I had to leave. After high school I worked for a year and a half at the slaughterhouse, the only unskilled job that paid more than minimum wage, to save money for college. Then, after I got my nursing license I moved to Dallas where I worked for thirty years. Now I have semi-retired to five acres of tropical fruits and flowers in Florida. For me it really did get better, I was extremely fortunate.

FakeNoose

(32,773 posts)
19. Putin isn't a capitalist, we need to dispel that notion completely
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 01:04 PM
Oct 2022

Putin is one of the wealthiest men in the world, it's true. But his money doesn't come from capitalism, and he' has never run a business in his life. Putin came to power by systematically stealing the natural resources (mainly oil) of Russia. Putin put his friends in power and gave them financial/legal advantages that no one else got, and that's who the oligarchs are. They make money by stealing it in one way or another, and they all give half their income to Putin. That's why he's wealthy, and he never did a thing to earn it except plunder the natural resources of his country.

It sickens me the way Repukes worship him - it's so wrong and misguided. If the Russian people ever found out what he has done to Russia since the "revolution," he'd get the Mussolini treatment. I'm certain of it.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
44. I think that's how they understand "capitalist": "rich person...
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 06:53 PM
Oct 2022

... who doesn't give a f*k about laws."

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SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
21. I met a young maga couple at the dmv, shortly after moving to this red hellhole (TN)
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 01:23 PM
Oct 2022

The young man struck up a conversation with me, because, well, they cannot ever shut their mouths.

He began spewing how much better russia is than the USA because they don't have to pay taxes.

I told him I don't know a lot about russia because their govt always has lied consistently about conditions there. I told him, though, "one thing I do know is they don't have access to food like we do here." That got his interest.

I continued, asking him how he would like to stand in line for hours to buy only a loaf of bread. Then, when it was his turn, only to be told there was no bread for him to buy.

All the color drained from his face. Lol

I continued, but if you really love russia, I'll buy you a one-way ticket so you can live your dream. (Of course, I wouldn't, but I could see this kid, skin & bones, likely loaded with parasites from the pervasive pattern of walking around without shoes on, would have quite an aversion to hunger.)

He declined the offer.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
29. Works for me!
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 02:00 PM
Oct 2022

This incident happened a few yrs ago, long before pootin's brutal war against Ukraine. I sure would have tossed that into the mix if it had been a factor at that time.

Gawd, I wish we could ship all the maga folks over there, starting with all the ruskie assets in Congress!

Aviation Pro

(12,187 posts)
31. Figures.....
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 02:27 PM
Oct 2022

Loud-mouthed, fucking RW GenXers are quickly replacing my Baby Boomer generation as the worst of America. Stupid fucks.

IronLionZion

(45,534 posts)
26. The Interceptor film on Netlix covers this deranged thinking
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 01:52 PM
Oct 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interceptor_(film)

Racist idiots think it's "patriotic" to help Russia attack the United States. They're claiming the US has gotten too diverse and woke and feminist and needs to be punished.


RW idiots have been using violence and intimidation against American citizens for political agenda for a while now. At some point we need to admit these people are domestic terrorists.

debm55

(25,439 posts)
32. Not to be snarky, but some of us, me included, have them as neighbors. My one young neighbor who has
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 02:27 PM
Oct 2022

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a flag that reads ==Don't blame Me, I voted for Trump. On the other side is the neighborhood drunk, who sits on his patio and screams Lets go Brandon. I don't say anything because I'm afraid they will hurt my Dolly Dog.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
37. Haters gotta hate
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 06:11 PM
Oct 2022

I have come to the conclusion that people who have experienced a lot of trouble in their lives have to find something or someone to blame. Most magats I meet fit that bill. Their lives are so shitty, they needed someone like Rush Limbaugh or Tucker Carlson to tell them it's all the fault of the liberals- and they suck it up. It makes them feel better about the problems in their lives to hate others. I guess I would call them sociopaths who have been brought together with a weird commonality sparked by fascist assholes on the radio or TV who only care about making money off of them. All of them I meet seem to have that in common. Fascist elite corporate owners have learned how to use them for their own gains. They are just too stupid to realize it.

ffr

(22,672 posts)
38. You should have told him to get behind our president in a time of war. Unpatriotic bastard!
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 06:22 PM
Oct 2022

Then, you could tell him to FO!

Joinfortmill

(14,465 posts)
39. The U.S. has been here before. Listen to ULTRA, Rachel's new podcast series. It's hair raising.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 06:24 PM
Oct 2022

I knew some of the history she is relating, but not the extent of the fascist traitors during the WII era.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
45. I'm on episode 2. Scary shit!
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 07:02 PM
Oct 2022

I knew there were people, including some in my family tree, that wished we had sided with Hitler. I was too young, too late, to comment on it to them.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
46. Tell him to move to fucking Russia, then. Tell him
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 07:07 PM
Oct 2022

you hope he likes borscht and zero tolerance for speaking his mind there. If he said "Biden is a better leader than Pootin," he'd be in jail.

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
48. He is mentally ill.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 07:20 PM
Oct 2022

Punching him would make me feel happier but these crazy zealots are sick inside and outside. A lobotomy may have more of a positive outcome.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
51. The hilarious part of this is that for 40 years Senator was an advocate
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:00 PM
Oct 2022

of Delaware's aggressive protection of it's unique corporation laws, especially credit card companies.

He did it with social responsibility but he pursued policies that benefited Delaware's business interests

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
57. And the battle between light and darkness rages on
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 03:17 AM
Oct 2022

Which one will be defeated?

Only November will tell

Emile

(22,937 posts)
59. After 4 years of Trump the very last person I want to hear saying anything about President Biden is
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 08:34 AM
Oct 2022

a god damn Trumpy! I get right back in their fucking face!

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