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"The credible, close-call attempt to kill or maim Speaker Nancy Pelosi for a second time, and the GOP response, signals how close the US is to the end of the road as a Democracy. It also tells us about what comes after the fall.
The GOP has generally treated it as a joke, denied that DePape was conservative, or spread conspiracy theories that it was a gay quarrel during a hookup. There's been a lot of wink and nudge, "Sure it was bad, but whatever gets Nancy out, amiright?" comments like Youngkin's.
There has been almost NOTHING done to deter other would be assassins from killing Democratic officials. When people protested outside homes of SCOTUS justices, security was immediately increased. Dead silence now.
The difference is that Dems and Republicans are willing to protect conservative officials, but Republicans aren't willing to protect Dems, because they know that actual violence against officials is driven by the right wing base.
We Dont Have a Political Violence Problem. Republicans Do.
The Paul Pelosi attack was no aberration. Only one party counts violent insurrectionists as a constituency it dare not alienate.
https://newrepublic.com/article/168391/political-violence-is-republicans-problem
There is the implicit assumption by Republican leaders that violence will come for their opponents, and not for them.
And at the moment, they're correct.
But, most of them weren't in Iraq from 2004-2006.
I had a front row seat as Sunnis, cut off from power, formed AQI and started launching a campaign of terror aimed at government officials, particularly judges. Targeting family members was very much part of their CONOPS.
It didn't take long before retaliations began.
Baghdad segregated rapidly, as mixed neighborhoods forced out people who were the local minority. Similar (violent) sorting happened among Iraqi Kurds in the north.
One lesson I took away is that once political murders are normalized, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. It turns into an accelerating cycle of violence, particularly when both sides feel like it's a matter of group survival.
Part of the violence in Iraq in that period was the settling of old scores. Saddam had displaced, gassed, and murdered innumerable Kurds. He had kept Shiites (who form a plurality of the population) powerless and second class citizens for decades.
In the US, the GOP intends to seize power, and never let go, much as Saddam did with the Ba'ath Party. They're not hiding it. I'm not engaging in hyperbole or putting words in people's mouths. This is coming straight from their candidates.
If the GOP does win, they're promising to settle scores. Here we have the former President, and likely the next administration, promising to lock up journalists and have them raped until they give up confidential sources.
Trump Threatens Journalists With Prison Rape for Not Revealing Supreme Court Leak (Video)
When this person realizes hes going to be the bride of another prisoner very shortly he will
'tell you exactly who that leaker is!'" Trump warned
https://www.yahoo.com/video/trump-threatens-journalists-prison-rape-182417235.html
The repeated violence against Pelosi, and ongoing stochastic terror, is a promise of what is to come. If the GOP seizes power, you can be sure that they will do as little as possible to prevent, stop, deter, or prosecute political killings.
The DoJ will become a tool for imprisoning political opponents. It also won't lift a finger to do anything about assassinations of Democrats, journalists, or political enemies or disfavored minorities (like trans people or doctors treating them).
They'll claw back control of the City of DC, and prevent prosecutions of violence against Dems there, while blaming the murders on the victims for being soft on crime.
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Take it from someone who spent most of the aughts studying insurgency, counter insurgency, destabilized countries, hybrid governments, and evaluating the risks of civil war: what is happening with Pelosi is playing with fire."
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RonHumphrey
(2 posts)What you say has a lot of truth in it.
gopiscrap
(23,760 posts)RKP5637
(67,108 posts)not have to be this way. Also, portions of the MSM foster it and keep it stoked for their monetary gain. It's all very sick. I find what you wrote to be very well done. I've had similar thoughts for some time now.