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"We must seek out the spiritual people, because only that is going to help us survive. We have a great force -- a great brotherhood. And this involves all living things. And that, of course, includes us all. We are talking about the natural world, the natural force, with the trees, everything that grows, the water. That is part of our force.
"But when you gather spiritual force in one place, you also gather th negative force. We begin to perceive the enemy now, the power and presence of the negative force.
"There is a great battle comng." -- Oren Lyons, Faithkeeper, Onondaga
I do not claim that I can tell the future. Vut I will speculate the next 48 to 72 hours may involve some anxiety and stress for many good people. In discussing this with a friend here, and a group of friends on facebook, I thought of this quote by my old friend Oren. It has led to some interesting discussions over the last day through now.
Every individual who reads it will, of course, interpret it based upon their own level of understanding and being. And that is okay. Even generally good.
Stay strong.
cilla4progress
(25,434 posts)While also, of course, voting, and I text banked this morning.
On one hand, it will be what it will be. That is, in the sense that we will just have to pick ourselves up and keep moving forward, fight the good fight, knowing that we have the discretion to discern right from wrong, truth from lies.
I am expecting heartbreak on Tuesday night, as well as joy and relief.
I always look to your posts for inspiration, H2O Man.
Thank you.
H2O Man
(74,709 posts)You have done what you needed to do. I have, as well. No matter what the outcome, we will have a struggle on our hands.
I do find it troubling that one of the two major political parties is running Herschel Walker for the U. S. Senate. Not that they don't have a low quality group already in place. It is the progression that Newt Gingrich started with his "contract with America," to destroy the House and then Senate.They have some unstable people in the House, for sure.
My only real question at this moment is will their party run Donald Trump or Kanye West in 2024?
cilla4progress
(25,434 posts)I keep thinking (hoping) there will be a bottom.. at some point people will come to their senses. There is a history of this.
Right now, I don't have a lot of confidence in 'Murkans to turn this around any time soon.
H2O Man
(74,709 posts)I attended a historical society presentation today. There were a lot of people there that I knew, with a range of political views. But in discussions, everyone agreed that things were going out of control.
cilla4progress
(25,434 posts)is just a bunch of spoiled babies!
I listened to a great podcast about this recently..about cold plunge therapy. The speaker tied it to the fact that in much of the developed West we have access to ultimate comfort in a way that is not truly good for us.
I'm not articulating it well. Here it is.
https://www.smartfunnytortured.com/episodes/habibsadeghi
Love and appreciate you, H20 Man!
Peacetrain
(23,559 posts)Powerful
Oren is a great man.
Ohio Joe
(21,889 posts)H2O Man
(74,709 posts)spanone
(137,135 posts)H2O Man
(74,709 posts)the overall election results will favor us, and likely surprise those who are nervous about it today.
spanone
(137,135 posts)I'm not one to be concerned about most polls, either. I was called by a person polling on the local race for a seat in the House. After some initial questions, I was asked about exposure to media and/or web sites. Did I ever take part in discussions? I said I had done a series of interviews with Dr. Bandy Lee in 2020. The person told me that she needed to end our conversation and hung up.