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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAm I right in understanding that if GOP do well the Jan 6 Committee will be shut down?
Trump will never be held to account, and he will be free to run again in 2024? What a bleak outcome that would be.
underpants
(185,203 posts)Yep. The January 6th committee has done its heavy lifting. It should be able to wrap up before the next Congress is in place.
calimary
(83,416 posts)Needs to be a done deal BEFORE the GOP can start fucking with it or cancelling it altogether. Get it DONE and into the hands of Merrick Garland!
Doodley
(9,861 posts)Claustrum
(4,982 posts)And they don't need to do all that well to win the house according to previous polling.
But, Jan 6 committee isn't DoJ. They can't charge TFG. It's up to the DoJ, not Jan 6 committee.
Doodley
(9,861 posts)Claustrum
(4,982 posts)We aren't in the simple day and age of the Watergate era where TV is one of the main and only entertainment or news provider. The media and social media landscape is so messed up that there isn't a lot that the Jan 6 committee could do. People are mostly dig in with their beliefs and there is not a lot of convincing to do. It's much more beneficial to do it on a personal level but you have to have the patience to get through the MAGA craziness.
Doodley
(9,861 posts)narrative about Trump, meaning he can run in 2024, and might win? That would be the end of America as we know it, and we can't communicate the seriousness of that to enough Americans to make a difference?
Claustrum
(4,982 posts)I don't know if he will get through the republican primary but I thought he would run and likely win the republican nomination. It hasn't changed for me since 2020. The only way he wouldn't run would be due to health reasons and I have no idea when that would happen.
Cosmocat
(14,840 posts)He won't be charged / found guilty, will run, will win potus, and that will be game over.
Claustrum
(4,982 posts)I think he will be indicted. I hope he will lose and finally have the ending chapter of the annoying MAGA era.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Unless hes convicted of insurrection.
Claustrum
(4,982 posts)liberal N proud
(60,783 posts)They have no intentions of holding him accountable
Doodley
(9,861 posts)liberal N proud
(60,783 posts)Fullduplexxx
(8,113 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(18,382 posts)They still have yet to get final report in based on evidence they compiled.
The next Congress can't stop that.
regnaD kciN
(26,421 posts)But Im sure, should the GQP win, their Judiciary Committee, under the direction of Gym Jordan, will give us two years of Hunter Bidens Laptop, plus several attempts to impeach the POTUS.
Doodley
(9,861 posts)budkin
(6,849 posts)And the Hunter Biden commission will commence.
GenXer47
(1,204 posts)and then Joe pardons him. Fizzle this ridiculous balloon!
Doodley
(9,861 posts)BumRushDaShow
(137,507 posts)and this is the end of the 117th Congress (Congressional session).
When the new 118th Congress is sworn in (and there will be changes in membership even if no party changes) the House leadership works out who will be on what Committees and who will Chair those Committees and serve as ranking member. etc. In some cases, a Committee will change its "official" name.
So they were never expected to be in existence "forever". They were to do their investigation including conducting interviews, holding hearings, providing updates on progress, and then would dissolve a month after they submit their final report.
Doodley
(9,861 posts)BumRushDaShow
(137,507 posts)They are a LAW-WRITING one. The Executive Branch is responsible for law enforcement.
Their "accomplishments" are to provide info and justifications to OTHER standing Congressional Committees, so they can draft legislation to try to make sure what happened January 6 (let alone what occurred during the 2020 election), doesn't happen again.
So far, the House actually passed something already -
H.R.8873 - Presidential Election Reform Act
Updated September 21, 2022 5:42 PM ET
The Presidential Election Reform Act was introduced by Reps. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo. (left), and Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., both of whom sit on the Democratic-led House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.
Alex Wong/Getty Images
The House on Wednesday passed a set of electoral reforms aimed at shoring up ambiguities and archaic language in the presidential certification process, some of which former President Donald Trump and his allies tried to exploit in their efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
The Presidential Election Reform Act was introduced by Reps. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., and Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., both of whom sit on the Democratic-led House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. Their legislation passed in the House 229-203, with nine Republicans voting with all Democrats in favor. Most of the nine had also voted for Trump's impeachment in the wake of the Capitol attack.
The 38-page bill would make a number of changes to the law that governs how Electoral College votes are submitted by states and then counted by Congress, known as the Electoral Count Act. Notably, the legislation would make it more difficult for members of Congress to muck up the certification process with objections that aren't based on legitimate concerns, and would clarify that the vice president's role in counting electoral votes is strictly ministerial.
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https://www.npr.org/2022/09/21/1124239193/house-legislation-electoral-count-act-reform
The Senate has been working on their slighly different version that needs to be reconciled with the House version -
S.4573 - Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022
So they are already getting change enacted.
Fiendish Thingy
(17,299 posts)Who controls congress will have no effect on the DOJs ongoing January 6 investigations and prosecutions .
Doodley
(9,861 posts)BumRushDaShow
(137,507 posts)Agreement on evidence-sharing would mark a significant milestone as the DOJ inquiry into efforts by Donald Trump and others to overturn the 2020 election enters a more public-facing phase.
By Kyle Cheney
07/28/2022 10:52 AM EDT
The Jan. 6 select committee has formalized a path to share witness transcripts and evidence with the Justice Department, its chair Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) told POLITICO Thursday.
Weve put a template together for sharing information, sharing it with Justice. My understanding is, theres general agreement on it, Thompson said.
Agreement on evidence-sharing would mark a significant milestone as the DOJ inquiry into efforts by Donald Trump and others to overturn the 2020 election enters a more public-facing phase. Federal investigators have sought to access the congressional committees 1,000-plus witness interview transcripts since April, but the select panel has resisted as its probe continued to generate extraordinary new evidence and witness testimony.
Now, though, as DOJ delves even more deeply into the former presidents inner circle and the select committees most significant round of public hearings has concluded, there appears to be greater urgency for prosecutors to obtain evidence the select committee has gathered.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/28/doj-jan-6-panel-evidence-sharing-00048457
(this was "publicly announced" before the Mar-a-Lago seizures)
Thomas Hurt
(13,905 posts)but there will impeachments and more hearings in retaliation and escalation.
There may well be hearings on how the libs eat babies. I am dead serious.
Doodley
(9,861 posts)DFW
(55,880 posts)They can't take back what will have been given to the Justice Department up to December 31st, and Garland will still be attorney general. How ironic it would be if he ended up indicting and convicting some Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee, including its new chairman.