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If Republicans win NV, but Democrats take AZ and GA, the Senate will be in the same place it was before the election, numbers wise. That is a real possibility.
No doubt, it would be a huge disappointment for McConnell and the Republicans.
But, it could be best for the country and for the Democratic Party, if that becomes the reality.
The Democratic Party could organize for a couple of years to take back the country in 2024, when they could take back the House, Senate, and White House.
Meanwhile, there is going to be a battle between Trump and DeSantis and whomever else may want to get into the fray. It is hard to envision a united Republican Party in the next couple of years. They are presently a scattered and disorganized bunch of misfits.
W_HAMILTON
(7,870 posts)texasfiddler
(1,990 posts)GreenWave
(6,763 posts)Which means Mansion and Cinema can join forces. But the Senate will no longer have 50/50 committees.
DestinyIsles
(263 posts)NV seems to be in good shape for Cortez Masto to win. We will have 51 seats after runoff in Georgia happens.
MLAA
(17,310 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,084 posts)This is almost a done deal.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)But I still think we need to organize and soar up our support in NV. It's too close for comfort. We can't take any states for granted, especially these close ones, even if we win.
kentuck
(111,106 posts)But I don't know if there are enough votes left for her to overtake the deficit.
Johnny2X2X
(19,084 posts)That's not really a big question right now. Cortez Masto will win Nevada's Senate race. Mark Kelly winning Arizona's race is a bigger question, but also probably safe too.
Georgia runoff will be for Dems having 51 seats.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)They are definitely purple and need organizing to soar up our margins there. Win or lose.
Johnny2X2X
(19,084 posts)It's jerrymandered to all hell. Dems win 53% of the votes statewide and Republicans get a near super majority in the state House.
Michigan fixed their districts with a ballot initiative put to the voters to redistrict with a bipartisan independent panel. It obviously worked to make things fair and now Dems control the whole state.
Not sure if there can be off cycle redistricting, and how Wisconsin's ballot proposal laws are, but redistricting solves Wisconsin's problems. Wisconsin is a blue state, it should be sending more Dems to Washington than Reps on the regular.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)But I think some races on Tuesday shows that we can combat that. When they soar up their weaker district, they might leave districts they think are safe into possible districts. We won many districts that were lean republican, which means like 75% to win.
Anyways, I am thinking more for presidential than district. I think the coattail on the top of the tickets helps the local races a lot. We've seen that on both side (some OH races, NC, and NY for republicans). So for me, the organizing I am thinking is more on the state level.
sdfernando
(4,937 posts)Tom Delay's work to totally eff up texas. The SC uphead it with a few caveats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Texas_redistricting
Beetwasher.
(2,981 posts)Right now current reports for AZ and NV are very favorable and it's very likely now we win those two. Warnock will also have the upper hand in GA for a variety of reasons; he got the most votes already, our side is motivated, and Walker loses many of his voters who were voting for Kemp and just went down the R line, but won't be motivated to vote in the recall for Walker.
CrispyQ
(36,487 posts)Going to set up a small weekly donation to Warnock, just the same.
Wonderfully positive post!
Beetwasher.
(2,981 posts)How about this; the house will be closer than anyone expects and we very well may hold it. We may run the table on most of the remaining races, in a close environment like this one, that can happen when one side clearly has the momentum. Boebert is going to lose as well.
CrispyQ
(36,487 posts)I'm hopeful about Boebert & crosses fingers you're right about the rest!
Marius25
(3,213 posts)Even Dave Wasserman said it's looking likely Dems are getting 50 without GA.
honest.abe
(8,680 posts)But I dont think it matters that much. We would have majority either way and if the R's take the House (which is likely) then no substantial legislation is going to happen in the next two years. Senate votes wont really come into play.
in2herbs
(2,947 posts)honest.abe
(8,680 posts)Do you really think that is a possibility even with 51 Dem senators?
kwolf68
(7,365 posts)The Dems may well end up with 50 or 51, but you know 2 of those don't really count completely. They give the Dems majority, but don't pretend Sinema and Manchin will fall in line for adding to the courts. I don't think it will even be brought up.
in2herbs
(2,947 posts)blow up the filibuster then it must be done. We need to expand the USSC, pass voting rights legislation, and, if it can be done, pass legislation that will blunt the CU decision.
Alhena
(3,030 posts)Runoffs are unpredictable - Republicans will probably try to sell independent voters in GA on the notion that a 50-50 split will allow Manchin to continue his shenanigans, which are popular with independents.
honest.abe
(8,680 posts)Also remember they would only be voting for Walker.. no other R candidates on the ballot. I think for many that will be a turnoff.
But agreed anything can happen and it will be massive shit show with tons of money and political influence thrown at this election.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)If we go into the run off with 50 then the Republicans lose their only argument "vote for this nut because we can keep the Senate".
James Carville made an interesting point a couple of years ago about Southern voters
Asked why there was a Democratic governor ina place like Kentucky he said something to the effect that they will vote Republican BUT the golden rule is don't vote for some idiot that will embarrass them and be the butt of jokes every night on the news.
If we go into the run off with the Senate a lot of Republicans will simply stay home.