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iluvtennis

(19,864 posts)
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:17 PM Nov 2022

Eric Swalwell response to Sen Tim Scott's assertion that parents be put in charge of kids' education




Rep. Eric Swalwell@RepSwalwell·19h
Please tell me what I’m missing here. What are we doing next? Putting patients in charge of their own surgeries? Clients in charge of their own trials? When did we stop trusting experts. This is so stupid.


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Scott is an idiot.
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Eric Swalwell response to Sen Tim Scott's assertion that parents be put in charge of kids' education (Original Post) iluvtennis Nov 2022 OP
The goal is to damage US institutions. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #1
Absolutely! Doing pootin's work. SheltieLover Nov 2022 #2
Yes, the GOP is systematically destroying America's excellence. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #9
Absolutely correct! SheltieLover Nov 2022 #14
I know they want all the power and money, but did they have to destroy the US to get them? Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #20
To get big rubles, yes. SheltieLover Nov 2022 #26
If I were going to take over the world, I would not destroy it. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #39
But you have bling between your neurons SheltieLover Nov 2022 #43
Yes you are right. The pain, suffering, destruction are part of the fun for them. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #45
I've often thought about if I were wealthy, I would want others to have decent wages SheltieLover Nov 2022 #47
'I love the un-educated." Orange Julius Bloatus Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #33
Republicans. They want voters without the critical thinking skills that you gain at school. emulatorloo Nov 2022 #3
They also want to privatize education so that we taxpayers fund for-profit schools, including Lonestarblue Nov 2022 #12
Yes. Children must properly learn to be part of the white christian minority ruling class. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #21
BINGO! maddiemom Nov 2022 #35
Exactly! Bluethroughu Nov 2022 #4
Yes destroying US trained professionals is a disservice to all. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #7
Breaking community resources for people. Isolation is their shtick. Bluethroughu Nov 2022 #11
Yup, they sure are! SheltieLover Nov 2022 #15
"Who benefits from the destruction of public education?" Large employers, lying TeamProg Nov 2022 #22
Russia, China, Saudi, want to be 21st century superpowers. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #23
And it's working. rubbersole Nov 2022 #36
Yes exactly. It is the crime of the century and no one noticed. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #40
Parents have never been in charge of their kids education. world wide wally Nov 2022 #5
Yup, what he's asking for is homeschooling. GoCubsGo Nov 2022 #10
dumbing down. barbtries Nov 2022 #6
that was the start wasn't it? Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #37
that's what i tie it to, barbtries Nov 2022 #42
they (GOP) had a "plan" since the Goldwater days and probably well before. Hell the KKK was at it's Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #49
yes. barbtries Nov 2022 #50
We are one! Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #53
good to know barbtries Nov 2022 #54
I don't know. Seemed (seems) so simple and obvious. For the last 40 years. Never ends. Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #55
"Scott is an idiot." GoCubsGo Nov 2022 #8
When parents are in charge of their children's education, 70sEraVet Nov 2022 #13
That's why the vast majority of parents... mwooldri Nov 2022 #30
They are putting Republicans Mblaze Nov 2022 #16
How many billions do federal, state, and local Dave in VA Nov 2022 #17
+++ agree. n/t iluvtennis Nov 2022 #29
School boards and administrators should double-dog dare parents to pull their kids from school. Efilroft Sul Nov 2022 #18
I had a BA and I wouldn't have had confidence setting the curriculm for my kids. Baitball Blogger Nov 2022 #19
Uncle Ruckas prays everyday for the white man making the sun rise - TV cartoon The Boondocks AZLD4Candidate Nov 2022 #24
What a sad, pathetic shell of a man..... nt Carlitos Brigante Nov 2022 #25
Retired language arts teacher here. Three thoughts. BadgerMom Nov 2022 #27
Ravitch is excellent. Pinback Nov 2022 #34
I am so thankful that my father had nothing to do with my education. nt thucythucy Nov 2022 #28
Did Scott play football at Georgia too? panader0 Nov 2022 #31
Come on Uncle Tim Traildogbob Nov 2022 #32
Does that include black parents and gay parents? tulipsandroses Nov 2022 #38
Please tell me when parents were in charge of their kids education? How much further down the Samrob Nov 2022 #41
After covid home schooling scores, looks like Scott wants more dumb republicans republianmushroom Nov 2022 #44
Republicans have no use for democracy... or education. Beartracks Nov 2022 #51
Stop the undermining stupidity, please. This country is de-volving and stupid is gaining traction. Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #46
If parents Rebl2 Nov 2022 #48
I seen pitchers of Honest Abe readin in front of the fireplace. That's good enough for kids! Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #52

Irish_Dem

(47,184 posts)
1. The goal is to damage US institutions.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:20 PM
Nov 2022

Education is a big target because the American educational system has always been one of the best in the world.

Who benefits from the destruction of public education?

Irish_Dem

(47,184 posts)
9. Yes, the GOP is systematically destroying America's excellence.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:44 PM
Nov 2022

Our institutions, values, character, freedom.

All greatly damaged.

Irish_Dem

(47,184 posts)
20. I know they want all the power and money, but did they have to destroy the US to get them?
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:11 PM
Nov 2022

Destroy all of out institutions, our national character and values?


Irish_Dem

(47,184 posts)
39. If I were going to take over the world, I would not destroy it.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 09:00 PM
Nov 2022

The planet and people are the most valuable assets we have.
Why destroy them?

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
47. I've often thought about if I were wealthy, I would want others to have decent wages
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 09:14 PM
Nov 2022

And homes. If for no other reason than to make for a cohesive society & one in which elders aren't mugged & beaten for their bags of groceries.

But I guess they see things differently.

Pain & suffering is how they have "fun," I suppose.

emulatorloo

(44,152 posts)
3. Republicans. They want voters without the critical thinking skills that you gain at school.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:30 PM
Nov 2022

Scientific method, logic, reading and analysis of arguments, etc.

Lonestarblue

(10,030 posts)
12. They also want to privatize education so that we taxpayers fund for-profit schools, including
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:46 PM
Nov 2022

right-wing Christian schools that are heavy on the Bible and light on real education. I have a young relative who went to such a school through Grade 8. She was ill prepared for public high school and could not achieve the grades that would allow her to get admitted to the college of her choice. She’s a bright girl, just poorly educated during those so-important early years. She could not even have a gift of a Harry Potter book because it was against the Bible.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
35. BINGO!
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:56 PM
Nov 2022

Many parents feel that "critical thinking" is a threat to their "values." Politics is one reason; religion is another.

Irish_Dem

(47,184 posts)
7. Yes destroying US trained professionals is a disservice to all.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:42 PM
Nov 2022

The GOP is telling the public that teachers, librarians, doctors, nurses, psychologists, public health workers are worthless.

Ordinary joe knows more than they do.

The GOP is bent on destroying American excellence.

Bluethroughu

(5,173 posts)
11. Breaking community resources for people. Isolation is their shtick.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:46 PM
Nov 2022

Better control over the "stupid people" they love.

TeamProg

(6,169 posts)
22. "Who benefits from the destruction of public education?" Large employers, lying
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:19 PM
Nov 2022

Republican politicians.. Um, that's about it!

Irish_Dem

(47,184 posts)
23. Russia, China, Saudi, want to be 21st century superpowers.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:23 PM
Nov 2022

They must damage US excellence on their way to the top.

Irish_Dem

(47,184 posts)
40. Yes exactly. It is the crime of the century and no one noticed.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 09:01 PM
Nov 2022

They are getting away with all of it.

Evolve Dammit

(16,750 posts)
49. they (GOP) had a "plan" since the Goldwater days and probably well before. Hell the KKK was at it's
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 09:38 PM
Nov 2022

peak in the 1920's. McCarthy, John Birch Soc., and so many others all contributed to what we see today. This is just the most recent rendition of hate and ugliness. We could be so much better but they remain an anchor to deny anything decent and good, and enrich themselves. Pathetic.

barbtries

(28,808 posts)
50. yes.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 09:44 PM
Nov 2022

it goes back to the very beginning. the industrial revolution. KKK. they're like zombies they never sleep. In my lifetime, i think reagan did the most damage, but gw and of course TFG - mcconnell, gingrich, all the fuckers you can think of all played their parts.

i hate republicans

Evolve Dammit

(16,750 posts)
55. I don't know. Seemed (seems) so simple and obvious. For the last 40 years. Never ends.
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 06:19 PM
Nov 2022

Quite disgusting as "they" seem to want to undermine any advances in racial/ socio-economic equality, environmental protection, health care, child care, worker safety, etc. Ironically Nixon passed CAA, CWA, Superfund, OSHA all of which would get zero support today, so the war continues.
Hope you have a good night.
ED

70sEraVet

(3,505 posts)
13. When parents are in charge of their children's education,
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:48 PM
Nov 2022

they will achieve the intellectual abilities of their parents.
In most cases, a pretty poor investment.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
30. That's why the vast majority of parents...
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:49 PM
Nov 2022

... understand that they aren't best placed to educate their child. So they "outsource" this to the professionals.

Mblaze

(261 posts)
16. They are putting Republicans
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:50 PM
Nov 2022

In charge of our children’s education. Propaganda and jingoism will be our subject today kids.

Dave in VA

(2,038 posts)
17. How many billions do federal, state, and local
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:50 PM
Nov 2022

governments spend a year on public education? And just think the mega churches and corporations can't get their hands on it. We must privatize it all! Give parents the choice of being driven to "our" great school with you tax voucher.

This has been their plan for decades. Drive up the negatives about public schools and push their "answer" to the non existent problem.

As always, follow the money!

just my $0.02

Efilroft Sul

(3,581 posts)
18. School boards and administrators should double-dog dare parents to pull their kids from school.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:53 PM
Nov 2022

The parents who raised a fuss about CRT and certain books couldn't stand staying home during covid to make sure their kids got to every Zoom class on time. They hated being around their kids 24/7 to help them with their classwork and homework. Those anti-mask/anti-vax troglodytes couldn't have been clearer about wanting little Sophia and Tyler to return to school. So go on, educators, challenge these selfish cretins to pull their kids from school. The only families that will even consider doing it are the ones that could afford a private education or those quiver fools who would choose their homeschool biology curriculum based on Jesus riding dinosaurs.

Seriously, fuck these parents. They have neither the stones nor patience to be educators.

Baitball Blogger

(46,750 posts)
19. I had a BA and I wouldn't have had confidence setting the curriculm for my kids.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:07 PM
Nov 2022

I don't even know how to do the new math. Is that anything like the fast math system that they use in India?

The one thing I expected from Public school was to expose my kids to a diverse population. I didn't get that when I went to private Catholic school nor when I went to private school for college.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,705 posts)
24. Uncle Ruckas prays everyday for the white man making the sun rise - TV cartoon The Boondocks
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:23 PM
Nov 2022

Tim Scott just puckers up and kisses the asses of white men while being the answer for when Republicans are accused of bigotry. He's the "black friend" all racists have.

As Spike Lee would say, he is the GOP's "magic negro."

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
27. Retired language arts teacher here. Three thoughts.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:34 PM
Nov 2022

1. Billionaires like Bill Gates, the late Eli Broad, Laurene Powell Jobs and others became interested in education as their cause celebre. I’m sure some of them hoped to use their money to improve US education. Some, however, see it as a money-making endeavor. Few, if any, have studied education. Many have attended and sent their children to private schools and don’t even have experience of being a public school student, parent or educator. They suspiciously eye the money they pay in taxes and note the large sums spent on education. Dollars inspire their opinions. They are not to be trusted with public education but they do have Republicans in their pockets.

2. Teachers in the US do not receive respect as trained professionals. They sure as heck are though. Some members of the public would do well to respect the profession more.

3. Anyone here who is interested in teaching and public education probably would like reading Diane Ravitch. She was trained at Columbia, was a high-profile educator and published books I used as resources. She was a member of the George H W Bush administration because as charters and other public school alternatives began to gain traction she was interested in them. That stopped as she recognized their many shortcomings. She blogs and shines a light on the graft and false claims made by many failing for-profit educational endeavors. She also values what we do. I think right now her latest blog entry is about Boebert, not on an education-based topic. I recommend her. A link is below.

https://dianeravitch.net/

Pinback

(12,160 posts)
34. Ravitch is excellent.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:55 PM
Nov 2022

Public school teachers are among the very most valuable members of society. They should be honored and rewarded accordingly.

Traildogbob

(8,771 posts)
32. Come on Uncle Tim
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:53 PM
Nov 2022

I am old enough to remember all the hell being raised, Especially from MAGA’s, about schools being closed during Covid. They realized teaching classes is hard as hell, and most of the parents are too illiterate to comprehend the subject matter. Plus many parents wanted that time away from their little assholes And loved day care being free. Most will never afford private schools and many of the poor and minority kids would not be allowed into private Jeeeebus schools.

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
38. Does that include black parents and gay parents?
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:58 PM
Nov 2022

Can a black parent demand that their child learn about Malcolm X and opt out of “white history “?

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
41. Please tell me when parents were in charge of their kids education? How much further down the
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 09:06 PM
Nov 2022

rabbit hole do we go?

If parents want to be in charge of anything about their kids, start at home by teaching them manners and respect and how to think critically for themselves. Then teach them about basic civics...that is, if you know and understand it yoursel

Beartracks

(12,819 posts)
51. Republicans have no use for democracy... or education.
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:18 AM
Nov 2022

And the more they can get rid of the latter, the better chance they'll have to get rid of the former.

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Evolve Dammit

(16,750 posts)
46. Stop the undermining stupidity, please. This country is de-volving and stupid is gaining traction.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 09:11 PM
Nov 2022

We can't even make a fucking pencil anymore.

Rebl2

(13,535 posts)
48. If parents
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 09:14 PM
Nov 2022

are put in charge of their kids education and not working to do so, they will go after the parents for not working. What’s next. What an idiot Scott is.

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