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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm calling it right now, Trump is going to start his own political party
If the rumors about the last few house on "Truth Social" are true, Trump just declared war on Ron DeSantis. He's terrified if DeSantis and the Republicans have to be wondering what Trump even brings to the table, at this point. I think we are about to see Trump's messiest divorce yet. There's no way he doesn't star his own MAGA Party after that. I feel there's a not insignificant chance that Trump is going to lead the GOP to total ruin.
iemanja
(53,038 posts)That would guarantee a Democratic victory in 2024.
Renew Deal
(81,866 posts)dalton99a
(81,543 posts)cloudbase
(5,524 posts)Maeve
(42,286 posts)liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)I wish it were from his golf course (next to Ivana) but that's too much to ask for.
JCMach1
(27,562 posts)So NAH
ProfessorGAC
(65,111 posts)You sure, JC?
Multiple bankruptcies and continued failure to diversify a family fortune suggest otherwise.
Besides, it could be an ego thing and he's willing to Nero the whole party for vengeance.
Joinfortmill
(14,443 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,019 posts)trump represents the id.
Both parts of the same toxic, narcissistic animal that need each other to survive.
wishstar
(5,271 posts)RNC caved before after Jan 6th to his extortion threats, even agreeing to pay his legal bills to keep him from starting his own party. RNC has said they will no longer pay his legal bills if he announces run. My guess is he thinks he can get Repubs to cave again and pledge to support him for re-election rather than DeSantis and keep paying his bills or else he wreaks havoc on the party.
woodsprite
(11,917 posts)Feed them Trump steaks and Trump wine.
Hopefully theyll be just as successful as all his other endeavors, while drawing voters away from the repub base.
Dr. Jack
(675 posts)Imagine if the GOP lost 20% of their voters
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Democrats win 3 way races for the Presidency.
Clinton, Wilson, etc.
Girard442
(6,081 posts)Some of them think that dad doesn't know where Chuck E Cheese is, or even if there's one anywhere near here. Next thing, they're going to start saying that dad's cred cards are maxed and he can't, no way, afford to go to Chuck E Cheese.
They're getting downright surly back there.
Emile
(22,834 posts)Stuart G
(38,436 posts)Response to Stuart G (Reply #16)
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Mr.Bill
(24,311 posts)Whether or not he does it relies on one thing and one thing only...how much can he steal from it?
senseandsensibility
(17,087 posts)he will do it if they will still send him donations. And since they love to be lied to maybe they will.
Fullduplexxx
(7,866 posts)The rnc is paying his legal bills
Irish_Dem
(47,184 posts)I have felt for some time tectonic plates moving.
Yes there is a battle for control of the GOP.
(Basically I think it is Trump vs McConnell?)
Today I read a post calling for Dems to align with moderate GOPs.
(BTW I took issue with this idea, but that is another story.)
So going with your theory, the GOP splits in two.
Trump brings to the table a large MAGA base.
So what happens then?
Does the GOP self destruct?
Does the Dem party incorporate GOP moderates?
Or does the GOP become two separate parties and the US becomes a three party system?
Certainly that cannot work for the GOP??
I keep triangulating the political pieces in play and cannot make it all fit yet.
LiberalFighter
(51,005 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,419 posts)Do you remember shortly after January 6 insurrection when MoscowMitch and Kevin McCarthy both condemned TFG on the floor of the Senate and the House? Keving McCarthy then went to Mar-a-Lago and swore fealty to TFG and MoscowMitch just went silent on TFG. There are a ton of articles which express amazement at the fact that McCarthy and MoscowMitch flipped on TFG when they first condemned TFG's role in the Jan. 6 insurrection and then changed their stories and started ignoring TFG's role in this attempted insurrection. These articles seem surprised that so many republicans went from condemning TFG to praising him. To me, the main reason for this flip is clear.
After being attacked and condemned by McCarthy, MoscowMitch and other republicans for his role in the attempted coup, TFG started discussing forming a new political party that would in effect kill the GOP's chances in future elections.
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If TFG formed his Patriot Party, that party would draw a significant percentage of the GOP base and would kill the GOP's chances in future elections. Rather than risk facing a new TFG sponsored third party, the GOP caved.
There is no real mystery as to why McCarthy and MoscowMitch changed their positions. A TFG sponsored third party would hurt the GOP in the midterms and would ensure that the Democratic candidate would win in a presidential contest. That may be in party the reason why the RNC is still paying TFG's legal bills.
Now that Murdoch and the sane GOP members are turning on TFG, TFG is going back to the concept of forming his own party. I think that this is a bluff. It takes a ton of money to get onto the ballot in most states. Kanye West spent a ton of money and only got onto the ballot in a handful of states and Kanye was aided by GOP consultants who knew the law. TFG would have to start from scratch.
Again, TFG is too lazy and there are too many lawsuits pending against him that should rendered TFG too poor to form a third party.
imanamerican63
(13,806 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)He should totally go for it.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)to have a loser party like loser social, and as dumb as he is, he knows itd ser him up for a humiliating loss.
WarGamer
(12,462 posts)Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)You can't even keep track of how many times there has been this the gop "leadership" has had it w him stuff. They are weak mealy mouthed cowards who talk a big game otr, but will meekly put their lips on his ass when they think about the reaction from the monster they created (the "base" .
gab13by13
(21,376 posts)Will he get domestic oligarchs?
Meadowoak
(5,555 posts)ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)He needs the RNC to keep paying his legal bills.
He needs a GOP House (if that happens), to harass the DOJ as much as possible.
At most he will just use the threat to maintain the scams.
Trueblue1968
(17,231 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,082 posts)He needs to the party to crap on DeSantis. If they dont it will be a long and messy breakup. Trump will only start it after they ditch him.