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Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 11:56 AM Nov 2022

LOL.... Republicans are so angry with Wasserman for calling AZ for Kelly last night

that he was forced to post a disclaimer.

Disclaimer: as has always been the case, the personal judgments offered by this account regarding election results are not official race "calls" and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Cook Political Report, NBC News or any other entity.





I've seen enough: Sen. Mark Kelly (D) wins reelection in #AZSEN, defeating Blake Masters (R).


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LOL.... Republicans are so angry with Wasserman for calling AZ for Kelly last night (Original Post) Claustrum Nov 2022 OP
It's getting to the point in this country KS Toronado Nov 2022 #1
Myabe so but who is their next Der Fuhrer? It's hard to imagine someone worse than in2herbs Nov 2022 #2
Josh Hawley comes to mind...n/t PatrickforB Nov 2022 #19
DeSantis has a shallow plot just off a road through a swamp near Apalachicola for Sen. Hawley. jaxexpat Nov 2022 #20
Hawley jayschool2013 Nov 2022 #21
Lake scares the fuck out of me. Celerity Nov 2022 #28
If race results were reversed they would be screaming for the call! GreenWave Nov 2022 #3
I think it's the split ticket or mixed result in many states that is preventing them to shout fraud. Claustrum Nov 2022 #4
I tend to agree with that DFW Nov 2022 #5
They did in 2020. Dale in Laurel MD Nov 2022 #7
I'm familiar with the argument DFW Nov 2022 #18
In my experience, they've said whatever they needed to say... dchill Nov 2022 #8
This is what it is Cosmocat Nov 2022 #10
Yep. THIS. calimary Nov 2022 #17
he didn't have to do the disclaimer Gordolfon Nov 2022 #6
After saying "I've seen enough", has Wasserman ever gotten it wrong? Polybius Nov 2022 #9
I've seen a tweet saying he got it right about 92% of the time Claustrum Nov 2022 #11
I believe you're correct on that. CaptainTruth Nov 2022 #12
He has never been wrong...and if he says Kelly wins...then Kelly wins...and Cortez Masto will win Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #23
Are you referring to other comments of mine? I didn't talk about NV in this one. Claustrum Nov 2022 #24
Tough.. DT was ballistic at fox for calling Cha Nov 2022 #13
It seems as though networks are fearful to make calls BadgerMom Nov 2022 #14
I think for AZ, they are waiting for the 290k mail-in votes that were dropped off on election day. Claustrum Nov 2022 #16
Networks are milking the post-election day period Deminpenn Nov 2022 #22
Elections are to M$M as Christmas is to shopping malls. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #26
Master Bates will have to go cry to Sieg Theil. peppertree Nov 2022 #15
It's an echo of Fox calling Arizona D on election night in 2020. RW went apoplectic then. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #25
Denial is not just a river in Africa LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2022 #27

KS Toronado

(17,521 posts)
1. It's getting to the point in this country
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:06 PM
Nov 2022

nobody can have an opinion unless you're a RWNJ. Next they'll want absolute loyalty to Der Fuhrer.

in2herbs

(2,947 posts)
2. Myabe so but who is their next Der Fuhrer? It's hard to imagine someone worse than
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:09 PM
Nov 2022

tfg, desatan, and the others.

jaxexpat

(6,897 posts)
20. DeSantis has a shallow plot just off a road through a swamp near Apalachicola for Sen. Hawley.
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:42 PM
Nov 2022

The question is, will Hawley step into it while distractedly fist saluting an insurrection and NOT watching his step? Or will DeSantis have him pushed?

jayschool2013

(2,322 posts)
21. Hawley
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:54 PM
Nov 2022

Just tell him there's danger in the area, and point out the ditch near Apalachicola as a safe space. He'll run right into it.

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
4. I think it's the split ticket or mixed result in many states that is preventing them to shout fraud.
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:21 PM
Nov 2022

They needed some votes to count to catch up while they want others not to count.

DFW

(54,555 posts)
5. I tend to agree with that
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:30 PM
Nov 2022

They can’t say that Kemp won fairly, but Warnock didn’t if it was the same election.

Dale in Laurel MD

(698 posts)
7. They did in 2020.
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:14 PM
Nov 2022

There were plenty of claims that Biden votes were faked but down-ballot votes for Repubs on the same ballot were legitimate.

DFW

(54,555 posts)
18. I'm familiar with the argument
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:27 PM
Nov 2022

"Those things on my right hand are fingers, but those things on my left hand are toes."

(Direct translation from the original Republicanese)

dchill

(38,669 posts)
8. In my experience, they've said whatever they needed to say...
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:21 PM
Nov 2022

...to bolster their alternative facts.

Cosmocat

(14,600 posts)
10. This is what it is
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:25 PM
Nov 2022

they LONG ago gave up any pretense of consistency or avoidance of hypocrisy.

In the great holy and patriotic war against the evil liberal boogyman, ANYTHING goes.

calimary

(81,632 posts)
17. Yep. THIS.
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:16 PM
Nov 2022

They live in their own reality. And they won’t be moving out of that reality voluntarily, anytime soon. Don’t forget about the power of DENIAL.

Polybius

(15,556 posts)
9. After saying "I've seen enough", has Wasserman ever gotten it wrong?
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:23 PM
Nov 2022

I've asked this two other times over the past two years, and have never gotten an answer.

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
11. I've seen a tweet saying he got it right about 92% of the time
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:29 PM
Nov 2022

and citing a race in NV that Ralston got right (assuming Wasserman didn't). I don't know enough to research the validity of that tweet. But point being, I think Wasserman is very much likely to be right.

CaptainTruth

(6,626 posts)
12. I believe you're correct on that.
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:38 PM
Nov 2022

Wasserman's accuracy is in the high 90% but he did go against Ralston in one NV call that he got wrong, that's the one I've heard of.

Wasserman is damn good, nearly "money in the bank" good, but I don't think anyone knows NV better than Ralston.

Demsrule86

(68,917 posts)
23. He has never been wrong...and if he says Kelly wins...then Kelly wins...and Cortez Masto will win
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:57 PM
Nov 2022

too. And a fair number of those ballots you refer to are Culinary worker ballots and will break for the Democrats.

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
24. Are you referring to other comments of mine? I didn't talk about NV in this one.
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 03:03 PM
Nov 2022

The NV race was a previous race in other years. Like I said, I don't know which one that tweet was talking about but comment #13 said the same thing.

As far as the current NV race, I definitely believe CCM will pull ahead and win. It's just that we have to wait for the votes to be counted before we know for sure. Saying to wait doesn't mean I am rooting for republicans to win or that I doubt CCM's ability to win this race. Stop reading non-existing things into what I said. I am not some republican troll. But at the same time, I am trying to put out the facts as it stands now without adding too much "what I hope it is" into it.

BadgerMom

(2,775 posts)
14. It seems as though networks are fearful to make calls
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:00 PM
Nov 2022

after TFG’s agita following Fox’s call of AZ for Biden in 2020. Maybe not. Maybe there are just so many mail-in ballots now that counting takes longer than it has before. But since 2000 many election nights aren’t what they used to be, 2008 and 2012 being exceptions.

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
16. I think for AZ, they are waiting for the 290k mail-in votes that were dropped off on election day.
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:04 PM
Nov 2022

It is assumed that it would lean republican but Master would need something like 70/25 to take the lead. Wasserman think it's near impossible to get that ratio so he called AZ. The networks are likely waiting for some of that votes to release later today and call it for Kelly when it shows Masters only get 60/35.

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