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Wanderlust988

(509 posts)
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:26 PM Nov 2022

Should Pres. Biden offer Sinema an ambassadorship or cabinet position?

Sometime next year, he should offer her a job. It'll allow her to save face and not lose a bruising primary, and it would allow Gov. Hobbs to appoint a replacement to serve out the remainder of her term and give that person a leg up on the 2024 race as an incumbent.

It's a win-win for both! Everyone is happy. I'm sure the Ambassador's residence in Rome is a nice gig.

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Should Pres. Biden offer Sinema an ambassadorship or cabinet position? (Original Post) Wanderlust988 Nov 2022 OP
Ambasador to Iran or Belarus. TheBlackAdder Nov 2022 #1
She could do too much damage in Iran iemanja Nov 2022 #35
With the way she dresses, she'd be flogged in an Iranian town square in 5 minutes. TheBlackAdder Nov 2022 #36
You made me spit-spray my tea laughing..... nt allegorical oracle Nov 2022 #44
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2022 #2
Antarctica. (nt) Pinback Nov 2022 #5
She's a sitting senator who turned a red seat blue. comradebillyboy Nov 2022 #3
+1 marybourg Nov 2022 #6
This is why I'm leery of Gallegos' chances if he wins the primary AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #8
I have come to have deep respect for your political judgement. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #21
Greg Stanton AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #26
Thank you. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #29
Gallego further left of Stanton? grantcart Nov 2022 #37
Gallego is part of the progressive caucus AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #47
Good to know grantcart Nov 2022 #49
Thank-you. JohnSJ Nov 2022 #13
personally, I'm not sure she can count on winning again. KarenS Nov 2022 #14
re: "I for one will not vote for her" thesquanderer Nov 2022 #43
Maybe not a progressive, but.... Happy Hoosier Nov 2022 #30
Gabby Gifford was,IMO, responsible for the flip grantcart Nov 2022 #33
Repubs never feel their candidates are too extreme to win IronLionZion Nov 2022 #40
AZ did not have a blue sweep. former9thward Nov 2022 #46
Sinema absolutely did not campaign as a liberal AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #48
Depends upon her ambitions. The GOP tectonic plates are shifting as we speak. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #4
Agree. Sinema is opportunistic as heck, & whatever decision she goes with will have to benefit her onetexan Nov 2022 #18
Yes Cabinet is out. Ambassadorship not worth it to her and places her away from the action. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #20
I think she has already thrown out her career Ray Bruns Nov 2022 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #27
No. Autumn Nov 2022 #7
Federated States of Micronesia! elleng Nov 2022 #9
Hah! -K&R for, not all that fanciful! UTUSN Nov 2022 #10
Ambassador to Arkansas!!! BluesRunTheGame Nov 2022 #11
No Etherealoc1 Nov 2022 #12
I don't want to wait for her to fall in line. She'll jump Repuke. AllyCat Nov 2022 #39
No. She'll be taken care of when she's primaried. brush Nov 2022 #15
To Antarctica lame54 Nov 2022 #16
No claudette Nov 2022 #17
That is a great idea!!! MadMike47 Nov 2022 #19
Is there an amabassadorship for the US Embassy on the Moon? AZLD4Candidate Nov 2022 #22
I think it's a pretty good idea. It's what FDR did with Joe Kennedy and it worked out well. NNadir Nov 2022 #24
Why do people keep suggesting this? brooklynite Nov 2022 #25
Exactly my Rebl2 Nov 2022 #31
Galapagos. She'd feel right at home Donkees Nov 2022 #28
Not even as a joke. It is lose-lose, not win-win. Hekate Nov 2022 #32
Why do you feel it is a losing situation? AllyCat Nov 2022 #38
Is there a Secratary of Fasion, Accessories and Wine Making? Cheezoholic Nov 2022 #34
just don't send her to the great white north we got enough nuts up here now dawn5651 Nov 2022 #41
She's so contrary that she'd probably turn it down. n/t allegorical oracle Nov 2022 #42
The party will line up behind Sinema in 2024 Trenzalore Nov 2022 #45

Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

comradebillyboy

(10,147 posts)
3. She's a sitting senator who turned a red seat blue.
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:31 PM
Nov 2022

I wouldn't count her out in Arizona. Arizona is still a red state tending purple, I don't think a progressive could win that seat.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,017 posts)
8. This is why I'm leery of Gallegos' chances if he wins the primary
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:48 PM
Nov 2022

Of course Republicans have put up some shitty fucking candidates here.
I think Gallego could’ve beaten Masters. But someone who wasn’t batshit? I’m not sure. Kelly ran the same campaign Sinema did in 2018 - an independent voice who would serve all Arizonans. All of the testimonials were from Republicans. He did a lot better, but Masters was worse than McSally.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
21. I have come to have deep respect for your political judgement.
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:16 PM
Nov 2022

I'm curious who you'd run for Senate in AZ?

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,017 posts)
26. Greg Stanton
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:30 PM
Nov 2022

I like Gallego, and he’s great for his district, but he’s farther left than I think would play statewide.
Stanton just won his third term in a purple-er district (formerly Sinema’s). He was a popular mayor.
Honestly I’m nervous across the board. I suspect Sinema goes independent and we get a 3- way race. In that situation she may be able to win reelection. She’s not popular with Dems, but she is with Rs and she’s not as unpopular with Is.
I’ll be honest, I don’t hate Sinema, although she frustrates the Hell out of me and I can’t stand her dogmatic attitude about the filibuster. I don’t think she’s corrupt, at least no more than the average politician-and she had a hand in everything Biden got done. She is unfortunately obsessed with bipartisanship to the point of idiocy. And that standing ovation when Trump talked about border issues was just cringe.
But that is what she campaigned on - working across party lines for all Arizonans. She wants to be McCain - hence the thumbs down vote.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
29. Thank you.
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:37 PM
Nov 2022

I hate to admit my ignorance of Greg Stanton, but I will study up.

I would hate to end up in an even worse position with that seat than we currently have.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
37. Gallego further left of Stanton?
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 08:06 PM
Nov 2022

They both have 100% voting records with Biden

More importantly (as it applies to Arizona) Gallego is a combat military veteran, not particularly lefty.

Gallego is exactly the candidate we need to boost moderate/conservative Hispanic vote.

It's really academic though because RG has made a preliminary move and if he declares no one is going to run against him.

If Gabby endorses either Sinema or Gallego I think that will end, but could be wrong. I don't think RG would have gotten this far invested w/o some encouragement from Gabby. Maybe she is going to sit it out.

Gallego is very crafty with the numbers 2 weeks before the election a friend was expressing doubts and RG predicted the outcome of the top 4 races within a half of percent.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,017 posts)
47. Gallego is part of the progressive caucus
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 09:17 PM
Nov 2022

Stanton is a New Dem.
I agree that Gallego is going to challenge, I just don't think he's the best choice.
And remember that Gabby was a Blue Dog, and Mark Kelly is definitely on the moderate side of the caucus.

I think Gallego would make a good Senator, and I think he would easily be replaced in the House - his seat is safe blue - I'm just not sure he can win.

But I should never underestimate the stupid that the Republicans will run. (Please Wendy Rogers, please Wendy Rogers).

KarenS

(4,075 posts)
14. personally, I'm not sure she can count on winning again.
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 06:04 PM
Nov 2022

I for one will not vote for her. It's a "fool me once" kind of thing.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
43. re: "I for one will not vote for her"
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 08:45 PM
Nov 2022

In a primary, sure. But how can you not vote for her in the general, if the alternative victor is the republican? Bad choice to have to make, I know.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
33. Gabby Gifford was,IMO, responsible for the flip
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:47 PM
Nov 2022

1) They graciously stepped aside in 2018 to let Sinema have the easier race

2) She gave an early endorsement which cleared the field so that she could avoid a primary battle and face a wounded McSally.

Ruben Gallego is a moderate not a progressive and as a marine checks all the boxes. His ex is mayor of Phoenix

I knocked on more doors in 2018 than any one in Tucson and I will vote for anyone over Sinema and I am exactly the kind of moderate she thinks will support her. If we lose the Senate then so be it but most Democrats I know think we have a better chance with a Spanish speaking marine moderate than with Sinema.

Beyond her twisted politics is a narcissist who will continue to hurt us.

IMO she will never survive a primary, I don't know any Democrat that likes her.

I also predict that she will engage in a wide range of high profile progressive issues to try and buy her way back but I really think she knows she has topped out politically and really wants to become a lobbyist to pull in a $ 100 million.

IronLionZion

(45,440 posts)
40. Repubs never feel their candidates are too extreme to win
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 08:17 PM
Nov 2022

Look how close many states have been with very bad candidates.

Fetterman is pretty progressive and won a state that Trump won in 2016 and was super close in 2020.

Arizona has had a blue sweep recently so it looks promising. Sinema campaigned as a liberal and moved to the center right after being elected Senator.

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
46. AZ did not have a blue sweep.
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 09:11 PM
Nov 2022

Republicans won 6 out of 9 House seats (up from 4). The legislature stayed R. Republicans won 5 of 7 state wide races with one yet to be determined.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,017 posts)
48. Sinema absolutely did not campaign as a liberal
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 09:19 PM
Nov 2022

She campaigned as a moderate who would work with Republicans to breakup the gridlock in Washington.
Kelly campaigned the same way.

Irish_Dem

(47,050 posts)
4. Depends upon her ambitions. The GOP tectonic plates are shifting as we speak.
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:32 PM
Nov 2022

She may want to see where things land before she works overtly with the Dems.

There may be a future for her in the GOP after the dust settles.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
18. Agree. Sinema is opportunistic as heck, & whatever decision she goes with will have to benefit her
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 06:59 PM
Nov 2022

That said i wld not add her to MoJoe's cabinet. She hasn't done much to be worthy of that status elevation, nor is she competent enough to warrant it IMO. An ambassadorship may be good if she wants it.

Irish_Dem

(47,050 posts)
20. Yes Cabinet is out. Ambassadorship not worth it to her and places her away from the action.
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:13 PM
Nov 2022

She would throw away her whole future career for a temporary position in some far flung country.

And lose her momentum and connections.

Yes she is ambitious and opportunistic. The GOP feeding frenzy may give her some paths to pursue.

Response to Ray Bruns (Reply #23)

elleng

(130,895 posts)
9. Federated States of Micronesia!
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:50 PM
Nov 2022

(I think that's where Pres Jeb Bartlet, The West Wing, sent Ross Kassenbach, a member of the Federal Election Commission until President Jed Bartlet, gaining an chance to mandate campaign finance reform, arranged for him to be taken off the position and be named the United States Ambassador to Micronesia. He was reportedly elated to be named as an Ambassador.)

Etherealoc1

(256 posts)
12. No
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:54 PM
Nov 2022

Dems did well in Arizona and
will continue to do so in spite of her.

She needs to fall in line, not to be catered to.









AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
39. I don't want to wait for her to fall in line. She'll jump Repuke.
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 08:15 PM
Nov 2022

Undo the damage before it starts.

NNadir

(33,517 posts)
24. I think it's a pretty good idea. It's what FDR did with Joe Kennedy and it worked out well.
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:24 PM
Nov 2022

Kennedy, who believed Hitler had already won the war against Britain, was appointed ambassador to that country to get him out of the US because he thought Kennedy might endorse Wendell Willkie.

In the meantime, FDR opened other channels to the British government as it fought Hitler.

She could be appointed ambassador to some country under a right wing government, hell, Britain might serve in this role, or Italy or Hungary.

brooklynite

(94,541 posts)
25. Why do people keep suggesting this?
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:29 PM
Nov 2022

If your goal is to get her out of the Senate because you don't trust her to do what's right, why would you give her another position you wouldn't trust her with, and why would you assume she'd accept it.

Rebl2

(13,501 posts)
31. Exactly my
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:38 PM
Nov 2022

thought. She would see right through what the president is trying to do and you would only anger her. Then she might flip to Republicans.

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