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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShould Pres. Biden offer Sinema an ambassadorship or cabinet position?
Sometime next year, he should offer her a job. It'll allow her to save face and not lose a bruising primary, and it would allow Gov. Hobbs to appoint a replacement to serve out the remainder of her term and give that person a leg up on the 2024 race as an incumbent.
It's a win-win for both! Everyone is happy. I'm sure the Ambassador's residence in Rome is a nice gig.
TheBlackAdder
(28,193 posts)iemanja
(53,032 posts)Belarus sounds good.
TheBlackAdder
(28,193 posts)allegorical oracle
(2,357 posts)Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)
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Pinback
(12,154 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)I wouldn't count her out in Arizona. Arizona is still a red state tending purple, I don't think a progressive could win that seat.
marybourg
(12,631 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,017 posts)Of course Republicans have put up some shitty fucking candidates here.
I think Gallego couldve beaten Masters. But someone who wasnt batshit? Im not sure. Kelly ran the same campaign Sinema did in 2018 - an independent voice who would serve all Arizonans. All of the testimonials were from Republicans. He did a lot better, but Masters was worse than McSally.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)I'm curious who you'd run for Senate in AZ?
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,017 posts)I like Gallego, and hes great for his district, but hes farther left than I think would play statewide.
Stanton just won his third term in a purple-er district (formerly Sinemas). He was a popular mayor.
Honestly Im nervous across the board. I suspect Sinema goes independent and we get a 3- way race. In that situation she may be able to win reelection. Shes not popular with Dems, but she is with Rs and shes not as unpopular with Is.
Ill be honest, I dont hate Sinema, although she frustrates the Hell out of me and I cant stand her dogmatic attitude about the filibuster. I dont think shes corrupt, at least no more than the average politician-and she had a hand in everything Biden got done. She is unfortunately obsessed with bipartisanship to the point of idiocy. And that standing ovation when Trump talked about border issues was just cringe.
But that is what she campaigned on - working across party lines for all Arizonans. She wants to be McCain - hence the thumbs down vote.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)I hate to admit my ignorance of Greg Stanton, but I will study up.
I would hate to end up in an even worse position with that seat than we currently have.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)They both have 100% voting records with Biden
More importantly (as it applies to Arizona) Gallego is a combat military veteran, not particularly lefty.
Gallego is exactly the candidate we need to boost moderate/conservative Hispanic vote.
It's really academic though because RG has made a preliminary move and if he declares no one is going to run against him.
If Gabby endorses either Sinema or Gallego I think that will end, but could be wrong. I don't think RG would have gotten this far invested w/o some encouragement from Gabby. Maybe she is going to sit it out.
Gallego is very crafty with the numbers 2 weeks before the election a friend was expressing doubts and RG predicted the outcome of the top 4 races within a half of percent.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,017 posts)Stanton is a New Dem.
I agree that Gallego is going to challenge, I just don't think he's the best choice.
And remember that Gabby was a Blue Dog, and Mark Kelly is definitely on the moderate side of the caucus.
I think Gallego would make a good Senator, and I think he would easily be replaced in the House - his seat is safe blue - I'm just not sure he can win.
But I should never underestimate the stupid that the Republicans will run. (Please Wendy Rogers, please Wendy Rogers).
grantcart
(53,061 posts)JohnSJ
(92,190 posts)KarenS
(4,075 posts)I for one will not vote for her. It's a "fool me once" kind of thing.
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)In a primary, sure. But how can you not vote for her in the general, if the alternative victor is the republican? Bad choice to have to make, I know.
Happy Hoosier
(7,308 posts)Kelly proves a more mainstream Democrat can.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)1) They graciously stepped aside in 2018 to let Sinema have the easier race
2) She gave an early endorsement which cleared the field so that she could avoid a primary battle and face a wounded McSally.
Ruben Gallego is a moderate not a progressive and as a marine checks all the boxes. His ex is mayor of Phoenix
I knocked on more doors in 2018 than any one in Tucson and I will vote for anyone over Sinema and I am exactly the kind of moderate she thinks will support her. If we lose the Senate then so be it but most Democrats I know think we have a better chance with a Spanish speaking marine moderate than with Sinema.
Beyond her twisted politics is a narcissist who will continue to hurt us.
IMO she will never survive a primary, I don't know any Democrat that likes her.
I also predict that she will engage in a wide range of high profile progressive issues to try and buy her way back but I really think she knows she has topped out politically and really wants to become a lobbyist to pull in a $ 100 million.
IronLionZion
(45,440 posts)Look how close many states have been with very bad candidates.
Fetterman is pretty progressive and won a state that Trump won in 2016 and was super close in 2020.
Arizona has had a blue sweep recently so it looks promising. Sinema campaigned as a liberal and moved to the center right after being elected Senator.
former9thward
(32,003 posts)Republicans won 6 out of 9 House seats (up from 4). The legislature stayed R. Republicans won 5 of 7 state wide races with one yet to be determined.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,017 posts)She campaigned as a moderate who would work with Republicans to breakup the gridlock in Washington.
Kelly campaigned the same way.
Irish_Dem
(47,050 posts)She may want to see where things land before she works overtly with the Dems.
There may be a future for her in the GOP after the dust settles.
onetexan
(13,041 posts)That said i wld not add her to MoJoe's cabinet. She hasn't done much to be worthy of that status elevation, nor is she competent enough to warrant it IMO. An ambassadorship may be good if she wants it.
Irish_Dem
(47,050 posts)She would throw away her whole future career for a temporary position in some far flung country.
And lose her momentum and connections.
Yes she is ambitious and opportunistic. The GOP feeding frenzy may give her some paths to pursue.
Ray Bruns
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Autumn
(45,079 posts)elleng
(130,895 posts)(I think that's where Pres Jeb Bartlet, The West Wing, sent Ross Kassenbach, a member of the Federal Election Commission until President Jed Bartlet, gaining an chance to mandate campaign finance reform, arranged for him to be taken off the position and be named the United States Ambassador to Micronesia. He was reportedly elated to be named as an Ambassador.)
UTUSN
(70,691 posts)BluesRunTheGame
(1,615 posts)Etherealoc1
(256 posts)Dems did well in Arizona and
will continue to do so in spite of her.
She needs to fall in line, not to be catered to.
AllyCat
(16,187 posts)Undo the damage before it starts.
brush
(53,776 posts)lame54
(35,287 posts)claudette
(3,550 posts)She doesnt deserve a reward for her contrary behavior
MadMike47
(106 posts)Gov. Hobbs could appoint Reuben Gallego to take her place!!
AZLD4Candidate
(5,689 posts)NNadir
(33,517 posts)Kennedy, who believed Hitler had already won the war against Britain, was appointed ambassador to that country to get him out of the US because he thought Kennedy might endorse Wendell Willkie.
In the meantime, FDR opened other channels to the British government as it fought Hitler.
She could be appointed ambassador to some country under a right wing government, hell, Britain might serve in this role, or Italy or Hungary.
brooklynite
(94,541 posts)If your goal is to get her out of the Senate because you don't trust her to do what's right, why would you give her another position you wouldn't trust her with, and why would you assume she'd accept it.
Rebl2
(13,501 posts)thought. She would see right through what the president is trying to do and you would only anger her. Then she might flip to Republicans.
Donkees
(31,398 posts)Hekate
(90,680 posts)AllyCat
(16,187 posts)Truly interested in your perspective.
Cheezoholic
(2,020 posts)Lets make one
dawn5651
(603 posts)allegorical oracle
(2,357 posts)Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)Hate to break it to you. Not that I agree but they will.