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Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:26 PM

Should Pres. Biden offer Sinema an ambassadorship or cabinet position?

Sometime next year, he should offer her a job. It'll allow her to save face and not lose a bruising primary, and it would allow Gov. Hobbs to appoint a replacement to serve out the remainder of her term and give that person a leg up on the 2024 race as an incumbent.

It's a win-win for both! Everyone is happy. I'm sure the Ambassador's residence in Rome is a nice gig.

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Reply Should Pres. Biden offer Sinema an ambassadorship or cabinet position? (Original post)
Wanderlust988 Nov 2022 OP
TheBlackAdder Nov 2022 #1
iemanja Nov 2022 #35
TheBlackAdder Nov 2022 #36
allegorical oracle Nov 2022 #44
Name removed Nov 2022 #2
Pinback Nov 2022 #5
comradebillyboy Nov 2022 #3
marybourg Nov 2022 #6
AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #8
Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #21
AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #26
Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #29
grantcart Nov 2022 #37
AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #47
grantcart Nov 2022 #49
JohnSJ Nov 2022 #13
KarenS Nov 2022 #14
thesquanderer Nov 2022 #43
Happy Hoosier Nov 2022 #30
grantcart Nov 2022 #33
IronLionZion Nov 2022 #40
former9thward Nov 2022 #46
AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #48
Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #4
onetexan Nov 2022 #18
Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #20
Ray Bruns Nov 2022 #23
Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #27
Autumn Nov 2022 #7
elleng Nov 2022 #9
UTUSN Nov 2022 #10
BluesRunTheGame Nov 2022 #11
Etherealoc1 Nov 2022 #12
AllyCat Nov 2022 #39
brush Nov 2022 #15
lame54 Nov 2022 #16
claudette Nov 2022 #17
MadMike47 Nov 2022 #19
AZLD4Candidate Nov 2022 #22
NNadir Nov 2022 #24
brooklynite Nov 2022 #25
Rebl2 Nov 2022 #31
Donkees Nov 2022 #28
Hekate Nov 2022 #32
AllyCat Nov 2022 #38
Cheezoholic Nov 2022 #34
dawn5651 Nov 2022 #41
allegorical oracle Nov 2022 #42
Trenzalore Nov 2022 #45

Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:30 PM

1. Ambasador to Iran or Belarus.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:48 PM

35. She could do too much damage in Iran

Belarus sounds good.

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Response to iemanja (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:57 PM

36. With the way she dresses, she'd be flogged in an Iranian town square in 5 minutes.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #36)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 08:55 PM

44. You made me spit-spray my tea laughing..... nt

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Response to Name removed (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:32 PM

5. Antarctica. (nt)

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:31 PM

3. She's a sitting senator who turned a red seat blue.

I wouldn't count her out in Arizona. Arizona is still a red state tending purple, I don't think a progressive could win that seat.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:33 PM

6. +1

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:48 PM

8. This is why I'm leery of Gallegos' chances if he wins the primary

Of course Republicans have put up some shitty fucking candidates here.
I think Gallego couldíve beaten Masters. But someone who wasnít batshit? Iím not sure. Kelly ran the same campaign Sinema did in 2018 - an independent voice who would serve all Arizonans. All of the testimonials were from Republicans. He did a lot better, but Masters was worse than McSally.

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Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:16 PM

21. I have come to have deep respect for your political judgement.

I'm curious who you'd run for Senate in AZ?

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Response to Just A Box Of Rain (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:30 PM

26. Greg Stanton

I like Gallego, and heís great for his district, but heís farther left than I think would play statewide.
Stanton just won his third term in a purple-er district (formerly Sinemaís). He was a popular mayor.
Honestly Iím nervous across the board. I suspect Sinema goes independent and we get a 3- way race. In that situation she may be able to win reelection. Sheís not popular with Dems, but she is with Rs and sheís not as unpopular with Is.
Iíll be honest, I donít hate Sinema, although she frustrates the Hell out of me and I canít stand her dogmatic attitude about the filibuster. I donít think sheís corrupt, at least no more than the average politician-and she had a hand in everything Biden got done. She is unfortunately obsessed with bipartisanship to the point of idiocy. And that standing ovation when Trump talked about border issues was just cringe.
But that is what she campaigned on - working across party lines for all Arizonans. She wants to be McCain - hence the thumbs down vote.

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Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #26)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:37 PM

29. Thank you.

I hate to admit my ignorance of Greg Stanton, but I will study up.

I would hate to end up in an even worse position with that seat than we currently have.

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Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #26)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 08:06 PM

37. Gallego further left of Stanton?


They both have 100% voting records with Biden

More importantly (as it applies to Arizona) Gallego is a combat military veteran, not particularly lefty.

Gallego is exactly the candidate we need to boost moderate/conservative Hispanic vote.

It's really academic though because RG has made a preliminary move and if he declares no one is going to run against him.

If Gabby endorses either Sinema or Gallego I think that will end, but could be wrong. I don't think RG would have gotten this far invested w/o some encouragement from Gabby. Maybe she is going to sit it out.

Gallego is very crafty with the numbers 2 weeks before the election a friend was expressing doubts and RG predicted the outcome of the top 4 races within a half of percent.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #37)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 09:17 PM

47. Gallego is part of the progressive caucus

Stanton is a New Dem.
I agree that Gallego is going to challenge, I just don't think he's the best choice.
And remember that Gabby was a Blue Dog, and Mark Kelly is definitely on the moderate side of the caucus.

I think Gallego would make a good Senator, and I think he would easily be replaced in the House - his seat is safe blue - I'm just not sure he can win.

But I should never underestimate the stupid that the Republicans will run. (Please Wendy Rogers, please Wendy Rogers).

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Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #47)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 11:00 PM

49. Good to know

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:55 PM

13. Thank-you.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 06:04 PM

14. personally, I'm not sure she can count on winning again.

I for one will not vote for her. It's a "fool me once" kind of thing.

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Response to KarenS (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 08:45 PM

43. re: "I for one will not vote for her"

In a primary, sure. But how can you not vote for her in the general, if the alternative victor is the republican? Bad choice to have to make, I know.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:37 PM

30. Maybe not a progressive, but....

Kelly proves a more mainstream Democrat can.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:47 PM

33. Gabby Gifford was,IMO, responsible for the flip

1) They graciously stepped aside in 2018 to let Sinema have the easier race

2) She gave an early endorsement which cleared the field so that she could avoid a primary battle and face a wounded McSally.

Ruben Gallego is a moderate not a progressive and as a marine checks all the boxes. His ex is mayor of Phoenix

I knocked on more doors in 2018 than any one in Tucson and I will vote for anyone over Sinema and I am exactly the kind of moderate she thinks will support her. If we lose the Senate then so be it but most Democrats I know think we have a better chance with a Spanish speaking marine moderate than with Sinema.

Beyond her twisted politics is a narcissist who will continue to hurt us.

IMO she will never survive a primary, I don't know any Democrat that likes her.

I also predict that she will engage in a wide range of high profile progressive issues to try and buy her way back but I really think she knows she has topped out politically and really wants to become a lobbyist to pull in a $ 100 million.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 08:17 PM

40. Repubs never feel their candidates are too extreme to win

Look how close many states have been with very bad candidates.

Fetterman is pretty progressive and won a state that Trump won in 2016 and was super close in 2020.

Arizona has had a blue sweep recently so it looks promising. Sinema campaigned as a liberal and moved to the center right after being elected Senator.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #40)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 09:11 PM

46. AZ did not have a blue sweep.

Republicans won 6 out of 9 House seats (up from 4). The legislature stayed R. Republicans won 5 of 7 state wide races with one yet to be determined.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #40)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 09:19 PM

48. Sinema absolutely did not campaign as a liberal

She campaigned as a moderate who would work with Republicans to breakup the gridlock in Washington.
Kelly campaigned the same way.

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:32 PM

4. Depends upon her ambitions. The GOP tectonic plates are shifting as we speak.

She may want to see where things land before she works overtly with the Dems.

There may be a future for her in the GOP after the dust settles.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 06:59 PM

18. Agree. Sinema is opportunistic as heck, & whatever decision she goes with will have to benefit her

That said i wld not add her to MoJoe's cabinet. She hasn't done much to be worthy of that status elevation, nor is she competent enough to warrant it IMO. An ambassadorship may be good if she wants it.

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Response to onetexan (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:13 PM

20. Yes Cabinet is out. Ambassadorship not worth it to her and places her away from the action.

She would throw away her whole future career for a temporary position in some far flung country.

And lose her momentum and connections.

Yes she is ambitious and opportunistic. The GOP feeding frenzy may give her some paths to pursue.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #20)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:22 PM

23. I think she has already thrown out her career

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:35 PM

7. No.

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:50 PM

9. Federated States of Micronesia!

(I think that's where Pres Jeb Bartlet, The West Wing, sent Ross Kassenbach, a member of the Federal Election Commission until President Jed Bartlet, gaining an chance to mandate campaign finance reform, arranged for him to be taken off the position and be named the United States Ambassador to Micronesia. He was reportedly elated to be named as an Ambassador.)

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:51 PM

10. Hah! -K&R for, not all that fanciful!

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:52 PM

11. Ambassador to Arkansas!!!

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 05:54 PM

12. No


Dems did well in Arizona and
will continue to do so in spite of her.

She needs to fall in line, not to be catered to.









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Response to Etherealoc1 (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 08:15 PM

39. I don't want to wait for her to fall in line. She'll jump Repuke.

Undo the damage before it starts.

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 06:52 PM

15. No. She'll be taken care of when she's primaried.

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 06:55 PM

16. To Antarctica

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 06:56 PM

17. No

She doesnít deserve a reward for her contrary behavior

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:08 PM

19. That is a great idea!!!

Gov. Hobbs could appoint Reuben Gallego to take her place!!

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:19 PM

22. Is there an amabassadorship for the US Embassy on the Moon?

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:24 PM

24. I think it's a pretty good idea. It's what FDR did with Joe Kennedy and it worked out well.

Kennedy, who believed Hitler had already won the war against Britain, was appointed ambassador to that country to get him out of the US because he thought Kennedy might endorse Wendell Willkie.

In the meantime, FDR opened other channels to the British government as it fought Hitler.

She could be appointed ambassador to some country under a right wing government, hell, Britain might serve in this role, or Italy or Hungary.

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:29 PM

25. Why do people keep suggesting this?

If your goal is to get her out of the Senate because you don't trust her to do what's right, why would you give her another position you wouldn't trust her with, and why would you assume she'd accept it.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:38 PM

31. Exactly my

thought. She would see right through what the president is trying to do and you would only anger her. Then she might flip to Republicans.

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:35 PM

28. Galapagos. She'd feel right at home



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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:38 PM

32. Not even as a joke. It is lose-lose, not win-win.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 08:14 PM

38. Why do you feel it is a losing situation?

Truly interested in your perspective.

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:48 PM

34. Is there a Secratary of Fasion, Accessories and Wine Making?

Lets make one

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 08:25 PM

41. just don't send her to the great white north we got enough nuts up here now

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 08:45 PM

42. She's so contrary that she'd probably turn it down. n/t

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Original post)

Tue Nov 15, 2022, 08:59 PM

45. The party will line up behind Sinema in 2024

Hate to break it to you. Not that I agree but they will.

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