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infullview

(981 posts)
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 08:47 AM Nov 2022

Garland will not indict Trump, and here's why...

If they indict him, he will not be a viable candidate in 2024. If they leave him as is, then he splits the republican party and DeSantis doesn't have a chance of winning. If the republicans take Trump out of the mix, then DeSantis becomes a strong contender and possibly unites the party and wins in 2024.

Just a theory, but plausible. Personally, I think they should lock Trump up and throw away the key and then the Dem's should crow about being the law and order party. Unfortunately, the red part of this country isn't all that bright and would probably be corralled by Fox news into voting against their best interests as usual.

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Garland will not indict Trump, and here's why... (Original Post) infullview Nov 2022 OP
There is absolutely NOTHING in Garland's history and record to show such partisan motives hlthe2b Nov 2022 #1
Either way, we win. Who doesn't want to see Trump in orange? But 3Hotdogs Nov 2022 #16
This post won't wear well malaise Nov 2022 #2
If there is evidence, which there is, and witnesses, which there are, for multiple crimes, if the AG JohnSJ Nov 2022 #3
Any facts? bucolic_frolic Nov 2022 #4
Nope. MuseRider Nov 2022 #5
I agree he won't indict trump, newdayneeded Nov 2022 #6
No, not true...Garland isn't scared of the rightwing scum...he will base his decision on the Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #10
Evidence like top secret documents? Emile Nov 2022 #22
Garland moves slow, but 48656c6c6f20 Nov 2022 #7
I see no reason why Garland is going to start playing politics all of a sudden. Beastly Boy Nov 2022 #8
Garland is not political and will decide to convict based on evidence. Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #9
The primary situation is military. Those nuclear documents Tetrachloride Nov 2022 #11
Interesting theory msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #13
I am as tough on Garland as anyone, gab13by13 Nov 2022 #12
Er, no. Goodheart Nov 2022 #14
You're over thinking this stuff. It's not 3D chess, it's a criminal prosecution. Indicting him ... marble falls Nov 2022 #15
Something else, gab13by13 Nov 2022 #17
If I recall, he was nominated to the Supreme Court by Obama because he was a centrist Republican. 3Hotdogs Nov 2022 #19
Garland was recommended to Obama by Orrin Hatch. Earth-shine Nov 2022 #24
No. Garland does not work that way. fightforfreedom Nov 2022 #18
And I hope to god the majority of you that Garland will act is true infullview Nov 2022 #20
None of this has anything to do with why Garland can't indict anyone Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #21
If Trump is somehow not indicted, this will not be the reason Zambero Nov 2022 #23
Consider this: LuckyCharms Nov 2022 #25
You're right Garland won't indict him... Fiendish Thingy Nov 2022 #26
Whatever he does, Garland's not going to play politics. Tommy Carcetti Nov 2022 #27
Not sure he would not be a viable candidate treestar Nov 2022 #28
I do not believe politics motivates Garland jcgoldie Nov 2022 #29

3Hotdogs

(12,376 posts)
16. Either way, we win. Who doesn't want to see Trump in orange? But
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:35 AM
Nov 2022

a loose Gropenfuhrer, ruining the Republican Party: SWEET !

JohnSJ

(92,190 posts)
3. If there is evidence, which there is, and witnesses, which there are, for multiple crimes, if the AG
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 08:53 AM
Nov 2022

refuses to indict, then he is not doing his job, and would need to be removed

There is nothing to indicate that is the case as of yet

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
5. Nope.
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 08:56 AM
Nov 2022

That is not how this is supposed to work and no matter what you or anyone things of Garland there is no reason to think he would do this.

newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
6. I agree he won't indict trump,
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 08:58 AM
Nov 2022

but it would never be for partisan reasons. It's simply because of the risk of civil outbreak with MAGA running around with AR15s. I hope I'm wrong, but I think it'll never happen.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
10. No, not true...Garland isn't scared of the rightwing scum...he will base his decision on the
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:04 AM
Nov 2022

evidence.

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
7. Garland moves slow, but
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 08:59 AM
Nov 2022

I've seen nothing in his work or character that says he would base his decision off of pure politics. Feels like a bomb tossing post.

Beastly Boy

(9,342 posts)
8. I see no reason why Garland is going to start playing politics all of a sudden.
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:00 AM
Nov 2022

He will go wherever the facts lead him, as he has done so far. He is no Bill Barr.

Tetrachloride

(7,841 posts)
11. The primary situation is military. Those nuclear documents
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:11 AM
Nov 2022

are the lead. Regardless of any other issue, the military / intelligence community is coming for Trump.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
13. Interesting theory
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:31 AM
Nov 2022

I grew up in the military, but it seems to have radically changed since the 50's and 60's it seems.
.



gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
12. I am as tough on Garland as anyone,
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:23 AM
Nov 2022

but one thing for sure, Garland is no Bill Barr, there isn't a partisan bone in his body.

Goodheart

(5,324 posts)
14. Er, no.
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:32 AM
Nov 2022

Garland might not indict trump, but that won't be for the reasons you state. Garland seems quite apolitical to me.

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
15. You're over thinking this stuff. It's not 3D chess, it's a criminal prosecution. Indicting him ...
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:32 AM
Nov 2022

... is the easy part.

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
17. Something else,
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:35 AM
Nov 2022

I don't even know if Garland is a Democrat or a Republican, if I had to guess, I would guess he is a Republican.

3Hotdogs

(12,376 posts)
19. If I recall, he was nominated to the Supreme Court by Obama because he was a centrist Republican.
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:39 AM
Nov 2022

Obama figured he could get Garland past the Repukes in the senate.

Earth-shine

(4,011 posts)
24. Garland was recommended to Obama by Orrin Hatch.
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 10:28 AM
Nov 2022
In early 2016, after Justice Antonin Scalia's passing, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) suggested then-President Barack Obama nominate Judge Merrick Garland for the Supreme Court. The Democratic president took the advice and sent Garland -- to borrow McConnell's phrasing, a "qualified, experienced, and mainstream nominee" -- to the Senate for consideration.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gop-acts-if-its-completely-forgotten-merrick-garlands-nomination-msna1147411

infullview

(981 posts)
20. And I hope to god the majority of you that Garland will act is true
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:39 AM
Nov 2022

as I said this is just a theory - I hope I wrong, but we are living in unsteady times right now. A split republican party would certainly be a good thing heading into the next election cycle.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
21. None of this has anything to do with why Garland can't indict anyone
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 09:44 AM
Nov 2022

He can't indict anyone--not a mafioso or a serial killer or even that local gangbanger caught selling drugs by the DEA.

Only grand juries can indict for federal crimes.

Maybe if people understood that, they'd stop expecting the impossible of someone like Garland.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
23. If Trump is somehow not indicted, this will not be the reason
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 10:08 AM
Nov 2022

Say what you wish about Garland, but he has a history of being far more judicious than partisan.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
25. Consider this:
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 10:36 AM
Nov 2022

If Garland does not indict, he will have to explain his reasoning for not doing so.

With so much evidence right in front of the world's nose, what is he possibly going to say to support his lack of indictment?

How will he explain that tfg is above the law without telling the entire world not to believe their lying eyes?

My opinion: He will follow the law. Period. Politics will not be a consideration.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
26. You're right Garland won't indict him...
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 11:20 AM
Nov 2022

But a grand jury will.

Garland’s team seek indictments from the GJ, and once the evidence is available, the GJ will grant the request.

Your political theory on withholding indictments is not supported by the facts.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
27. Whatever he does, Garland's not going to play politics.
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 11:21 AM
Nov 2022

He's not Bill Barr or any other of Trump's toadies.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
29. I do not believe politics motivates Garland
Thu Nov 17, 2022, 11:26 AM
Nov 2022

If it did he would have indicted him prior to the midterms.

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