MICHAEL MOORE: THE GOP IS IMPLODING IN FULL SPEED

[reymega life]

[link:https://www.rawstory.com/michael-moore-the-gop-is-imploding-and-the-house-is-their-consolation-prize/|

"Republicans who barely won in a blue district can read the writing on the wall — if they want to stay in Congress, in order to win, they are going to have to switch parties. If just one or two do that, it could make all the difference in the Democrats being back in charge," wrote Moore. Furthermore, their majority is slim enough that they could be vulnerable if any vacancies or special elections occur.

"By winning the House, the Republicans may have won the battle, but they’ve lost the war. They know this. You can see it in their reactions over the past few days. Their party is imploding. It’s time for the few sane and moderate Republicans to jump ship and either become Democrats or declare as an independent and caucus with the Democrats," concluded Moore. "Or, just head out the door saying you’re going out for a pack of smokes… and never come back."

[IbogaProject]

1. It isn't like a Parlament

The speaker vote is only once per congress. The only way there is another vote is if the speaker resigns, or dies, right?

[Thunderbeast]

3. Or if the members of his own party choose a new leader

See John Boehner.

[DemocraticPatriot]

5. In the House, there is such a thing as "motion to vacate the chair"...

Sometimes it is a legal thing, sometimes not-- depending on how the majority sets up their rules at the beginning...


I hear tell that 'Freedom caucus' members want this motion to be valid for the next congress...

[brush]

6. That's a good question. If say 4 or 5 republcans switch...

to the Democratic Party, or turn independent and leave Dems with a 1 or 2 seat advantage, what happens to the Speakership, or to the committee chairs?

I don't know if it's ever happened before. Anyone here know of anything close to that ever happening?

[carpetbagger]

17. Democrats took over in 1931 after a special election flipped a seat.

[eppur_se_muova]

2. "I am just going outside and may be some time."

Too classy for Uglicans.

[TheBlackAdder]

31. The GOP and QGOP are like watching the movie Bedford Incident in slow motion.

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The movie classic, Bedford Incident, and we know how that ended.

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[Rural_Progressive]

32. For the last 50 years

I've been constantly amazed the world has been able to avoid that sort of scenario. Seems we are bound and determined to keep pushing our luck.

[Ollie Garkie]

4. They aren't going anywhere.

I've thought a couple times in the past that they're done. The thing is that 40 percent of the population. is batshit insane from 35 years of Reich wing propaganda. They will never stop buying the bullshit Between that and all the gerrymandering and voter suppression, they aren't going anywhere for the foreseeable future.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

26. They are going down hill. Speed is uncertain. . . . nt

[certainot]

43. easiest way to get them to stop buying it is for dems to stop ignoring rw radio and expose it

as a russian propaganda operation

they are largely falling apart because limbaugh, the moral and intellectual leader of the republican party, is pushing up daisies after telling millions for 30 years that smoking doesn't cause cancer. and in 2008 or before the russians started using him. it is the party of limbaugh, they're fucked

the proiblem is democrats aren't reminding them of that.

[UTUSN]

7. My apology to MM for past prediction

[TygrBright]

8. Too late, dude. The "sane and moderate Republicans" were primaried out of existence by loons. n/t

[hibbing]

10. Yeah, was going to add, who are these moderates n/t

[TxGuitar]

29. There was never any such thing n/t

[FakeNoose]

40. Exactly right, this scenario might have happened 15 or 20 years ago

No way it could happen now. They're all MTG and Gym Jordan wannabe's now.

[mjvpi]

9. 10% of the Republicans will go Trump or stay home.

How many close races could the Rs take a 10% drop in turnout? Cults of personality don’t transfer well.

[speak easy]

33. More like 20%

if Trump tells them the primaries were rigged. He's gonna tear the Republican playhouse down if he loses.

[Orrex]

11. I truly would love for him to be correct, but...

The GOP has been purportedly been imploding more or less nonstop since before I was old enough to vote.

[StevieM]

16. They always have some new scheme to pull off.

A new group to spew hatred against. A new supposed threat to the good people of the country which needs to be dealt with. A new swift boating operation, meaning a new phony scandal to invent.

I fear that they are not done causing damage yet.

[Tommymac]

35. When one is backed by 1% Billionaire$ and Global Authoritarian movements the party never ends.

This "Hey! The GOP is TOAST" meme has been around as long as I have, and much much longer too. 1920's, at the least.

Every election the Dems win, some very very optimistic folks start predicting the imminent demise of the Rethuglican Party.

But every single time, the 1% spends a shitload of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, puts lipstick on the Pig, changes the message to suit today's angry voter, and rises from it's putrid smelling ashes once again.

Time after Time after Time.

This is the Kraken We Dems must perpetually cut into pieces, only to have it form again.

Thanks 1%.

[Pinback]

39. Their spiels cycle like the width of neckties.

Immigrants, drugs, crime, newfangled education approaches, changing gender roles and identities, taxes, freeloaders stealing our money through taxes, communists, Muslims, et al. We all know the litany.

They keep repurposing the same outrages, and it’s worked well so far.

[StevieM]

44. Sometimes they get innovative. Remember the Ebola scare of 2014? (eom)

[Mme. Defarge]

12. I would not bet against

Michael Moore.

[ananda]

22. He's been right on so far.

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[malaise]

23. THIS

As he pointed out earlier death (two ReTHUG Congress folks died this year) or indictments could also change the numbers.
I trust MM big time.

[myohmy2]

46. +1...

...

[SomedayKindaLove]

42. I'll swallow my gum if this happens

Not only mine, but everyone else’s too.

[orangecrush]

13. I second this

[BigmanPigman]

14. I think illness or death is most likely

the way we will gain any Dems. Since many members are old this is a real possibility.

[mucifer]

27. It is also how we could lose the Senate. Lots of old Senators and in

some states governors appoint the vacancy.

[Marcuse]

15. Just slip out the back, Jack.

[Dan]

18. MM truly understands the stupids

[Yavin4]

19. And DeSantis is unproven as the leader of the party.

A lot of them seem to be pinning their hopes on him, but that is a mistake. DeSantis has not shown that he can lead the party or become someone that everyone in the party can rally behind.

[ProfessorGAC]

25. In Addition...

...cults of personality aren't easily transferable.
The followers are still out there but aren't likely to be as passionate or motivated when the starting personality is gone.
DeSantis doesn't strike me as having the appeal to the drones that TFG has. He's more a technocrats than an emotion triggering "leader".
The Rs put too many eggs in one basket (much like TFG did with his finances, otherwise he'd be an actual billionaire). Getting beyond that seems harder than they've estimated.

[NJCher]

20. And the more the mtgs and the bang bangs act out

The greater the chances of something like this scenario taking place. The spectacle of an entire branch of u.s. government exhibiting and further branding republicans as lunatics will be just too much.

[betsuni]

21. Not going to happen.

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He was wrong about Democrats keeping control of Congress.

[LeftInTX]

28. Yep!

[Joinfortmill]

37. Damn close, so I'll give him an 'almost'.

[betsuni]

47. No.

Trump's win in 2016 wasn't a landslide, it was something like 400,000 votes in swing states and Moore was wrong about why that happened.

There was no landslide in 2016 and no landslide in 2022.

He said Romney would win in 2012 because he had more money. Predicted the only way Democrats would win in 2020 was with a beloved celerity like Oprah, Michelle Obama, Sully Sullenberger, Tom Hanks because eww, everybody hates establishment Democrats. He repeated the conspiracy theory that the DNC rigged primaries.

Said about Obama, "This is how you'll be remembered. He was the first black president," then later said Obama was the best president in his lifetime and that he loves Obama.

Said Obama faked drinking Flint water, said "I've come to the conclusion that the old guard of the Democratic Party is a greater roadblock to progress than Trump. Because they're taking half-measures; because they're beholden to the same money and interests." Oh right, BOTH SIDES CORRUPT!!!!!

No.

[Dorian Gray]

24. I would love

nothing more than for this to be true.

It's interesting that McCarthy seems to be catering to the nut jobs in the republican party to consolidate power. I would love for any remaining moderate to put pressure on him. (Are there any remaining moderates in the house?)

[LeftInTX]

30. They've been imploding since 1974

Waiting..waiting..waiting..
World's slowest implosion

Wake me up when they have imploded..(past tense) Gone..Bye..When Dems have filibuster proof senate, control the house, president, state governments.....

[Tarc]

34. The GOP has been on the verge of imploding since 2010

These scare headlines are funny and full of hopium.

Wake me when something concrete actually happens.

[Joinfortmill]

36. Lol. I'd love to see that.

[republianmushroom]

38. Tsk Tsk

[sop]

41. It could happen. 10 House Republicans voted to impeach Trump the last time.

Most of them aren't in the House any longer, but others mignt step up and do the right thing.

[mahina]

45. I listened to his podcast and felt better.

Thanks.