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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 12:42 PM Nov 2022

Crypto? We've been using it for years, but sensibly...

Look at your cash--it says "Federal Reserve Note". It used to say "silver certificate" or some such thing. At one point it was backed by our gold reserves. Now it's backed byfullfaith and credit

But here's the thing-- "backed by..." are the operative words. We discovered many years ago that commerce was impossible without a means of exchange agreed to by everyone involved.

It really makes no difference what that "means" is, and we've tried seashells, diamonds, the huge rocks of Yap coins, tulip bulbs and stock certificates. And gold, of course, along with lots of other things, even simple journal entries. Values can go up or down, but always within limits.

The one thing they all had in common was that everyone involved agreed on their value. Aside from some economic islands, it's the governnent that guarantees that value. Bitcoins and FTX shares have no such guarantees. You can say that Amazon or Tesla shares have no value in themselves, but at least they have huge companies behind them and vast amounts of regulation watching them.

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Wounded Bear

(58,709 posts)
1. Yeah, I kind of chuckle when they say that imaginary crypto funds 'disappeared'...
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 12:48 PM
Nov 2022


Fiat currencies that we all use are backed by the government, for better or worse. Crypto funds are basically imaginary.

Disaffected

(4,568 posts)
4. And they are called "shares" because
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 01:35 PM
Nov 2022

shareholders own a share of the company. A lot of shares also pay dividends. As such they have intrinsic value unlike crypto currency.

Beetwasher.

(2,981 posts)
7. AND presumably, profitable companies have...profit!
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 01:57 PM
Nov 2022

Or a steady flow of income from some good or service. This creates actual value and income stream to reliably PAY BACK DEBT.

brooklynite

(94,728 posts)
3. CRYPTOCURRENCY (Noun):
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 01:10 PM
Nov 2022
cryp·​to·​cur·​ren·​cy ˌkrip-tō-ˈkər-ən(t)-sē -ˈkə-rən(t)-sē
plural cryptocurrencies
: any form of currency that only exists digitally, that usually has no central issuing or regulating authority

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cryptocurrency


I have no personal need for crypto, but I recognize the functional distinction.

Marcus IM

(2,223 posts)
5. Get in low, take other peoples pyramid contributions, and get out and run. It's hard work.
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 01:49 PM
Nov 2022

Scooping up other people's money is what makes America great. Especially if it's the surplus value of someone else's labor.

USA!



Beetwasher.

(2,981 posts)
6. The US Government PAYS it's Debts, That's Why It's Currency Is Worth Something
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 01:55 PM
Nov 2022

US Gov't Bonds ALWAYS Pay Out. ALWAYS. That's why full faith and credit works. There is a base of income from Taxes that are reliably collected from the largest economy on earth. So there's ALWAYS income.

Crypto currency? Not so much. It's a ponzi scheme all the way.

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