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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe have to deal with immigration issues.
Somehow we are going to have make some tough decisions about how we handle people crossing over the border. We just have too..
With climate change among the many reasons people are moving across the world,(we are not the only ones who have to do something that can help people assimilate) .. We need to fund programs in home countries of potential immigrants who are facing and going to face some very critical health issues due to climate change, food shortages, heat that kills , lack of water..
We have to do something to make logical admissions into the country. We need immigrations to keep going. But we can't function without some kind of program that start in the country of origin, that will help people who want to move here, be here legally.
There is no simple answer, and every 2 steps forward, will a there will be a step back. We all know how big change goes.
Lunabell
(6,516 posts)Publicly rage about open borders then hire the immigrants illegally, use their labor to get rich, don't pay them a fair wage or provide benefits then kick them to the curb and deny responsibility when their illegal activities are made public.
Peacetrain
(23,559 posts)I do not know how we do it,... but greater minds need to take this on in a serious way. There is not going to be some great benefit politically from a group that will support our ideas.. This is about humanity and a changing world that is going to be even more haves and have nots..
Lunabell
(6,516 posts)You just said the same thing in a different way.
Peacetrain
(23,559 posts)Lunabell
(6,516 posts)Demsrule86
(70,613 posts)happen.
Peacetrain
(23,559 posts)keep it front and center.. things are just going to get worse.. needs greater..
onecaliberal
(35,056 posts)Peacetrain
(23,559 posts)We were talking green cards.. setting up places to apply for admittance to the US for work through embassies.. there were just a ton of ideas going around.. and of course the republicans thoughts on it were to punish people who were trying to move to the country. and or taking their kids and keeping them in detention tents..
jimfields33
(17,956 posts)If he could do it, anyone can.
Mad_Machine76
(24,705 posts)but it's going to take a bipartisan consensus and, more importantly, the willingness of Republicans to come to the table in a good faith effort to address the issue in sincere and humane ways. So far, there's been little to no evidence that they are willing to do so, which hinders any efforts to make substantial and positive systemic changes. So, until that happens............
There was almost a bipartisan deal in 2013 in the Senate but the House under Boehner wouldn't take it up.
W_HAMILTON
(8,219 posts)Because a Democratic-led Senate already passed bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform back around 2013. Let me repeat that again: the *Senate* was able to pass such bipartisan and comprehensive reform, with 60+ votes. And then the Republican-led House refused to pass it because it is REPUBLICANS that do not have a solution to our immigration problems. They rant and rave about the problem and use it to get elected, even though they have shown time and time again they can't come to any solutions, even among their own caucus, because they can't agree with how to deal with the undocumented immigrants already here.
So, until you get Republicans to agree on such comprehensive immigration reform, nothing will be done. There's about zero chance of comprehensive immigration reform being passed in this Republican-led House, so, the problem, however serious you think the problem may be, will almost assuredly continue, thanks to Republicans.
Peacetrain
(23,559 posts)We on the democratic side have to keep pressing .. keep it in the news that reform has to be passed by both houses and keep it in the press who is the one that is holding everything up..
How we do it.. Commitment.. talking about it.. over and over again till something gets done that is workable. If the republicans can literally chase us to the ground by keep something front and center such as taking away a woman's right to choose.. we have to do the same thing.. we cannot sit and just say, see we did all we could, because it will blow up on us as sure as the sun comes up tomorrow.
And our solutions our ideas.. and some may have to be revisited because they did not work as we hoped.. People do not want to deal with it, even on our side.. to keep pushing because we are going to get bashed for it.. but if we do not push and push and push for comprehensive workable immigration policies.. we are going to end up with tent cities for babies again.. that is all the republicans have to offer.. punishment for those who cross the borders
Rstrstx
(1,503 posts)I go to Matamoros every so often and the number of migrants waiting to cross there has exploded over the past month or so, probably in anticipation of the lifting of Title 42. The poor ones are staying on the streets or in modest hotels, the better-off ones are staying at nicer hotels (I have a friend whos a receptionist at a prominent hotel chain and he says there are a large amount of Russians staying there waiting to cross). The locals are not happy about it but theyre largely tolerating it - for the time being. The situation is unsustainable and somethings gotta give.
Peacetrain
(23,559 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,424 posts)Open borders - anchor babies - amnesty - illegals.
As the op said, climate is going to cause major problems. IMO climate change is going to create a lot more immigrants than wars.
In the US, nothing will ever get done on immigration except for maybe Dreamers. And that's big maybe.