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babylonsister

(171,107 posts)
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 11:07 AM Dec 2022

David Corn: Newly Revealed Texts Show Mark Meadows Is a Liar



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Newly Revealed Texts Show Mark Meadows Is a Liar
The messages contrast sharply with his account of the aftermath of the 2020 election.
David Corn


Mark Meadows is a liar—at least by omission. And newly revealed text messages prove it. 

In 2021, the former White House chief of staff for Donald Trump released a book, The Chief’s Chief, which offered a sycophantic account of his tenure serving the reality-TV-star-turned-president. It made little news because it provided little news. In the book, Meadows fawns over Dear Leader. He blames Trump’s 2020 loss on Fox News’ less-than-enthusiastic coverage of Trump, other purported media conspiracies, and massive fraud. Of course, he cites no confirmed instances of significant voter fraud. But he insists it was clear Trump won. “I knew he didn’t lose,” he writes. How? Well, because of all the “palpable” excitement at the Trump rallies and the “feeling I got during the final days of President Trump’s campaign.” Alrighty, then. But there’s more: “If you looked at the social media traffic from that night—which, I did, constantly—there was no doubt about it: President Trump was going to be reelected by a healthy margin.” Talk about reality bias.

No savvy reader would expect Meadows to present an honest and accurate depiction of what transpired in the weeks after the election and on January 6. But he strives mightily to provide a phony recounting.
He cites debunked allegations of fraud and claims the Democrats and the liberal media had plotted for years to set up a pretext in which Trump’s assertions of fraud could be dismissed as conspiracy theory nonsense and labeled “crazy” or “paranoid.” He calls this the “long con.” In Meadows’ telling, Trump and his attorneys merely engaged in legitimate court challenges to “uphold the Democratic process.” (Meadows mistakenly capitalizes “democratic.”) The problem, apparently, was that the courts, including the Supreme Court, didn’t have the guts to support these challenges. And then Trump, on January 6, simply made a farewell address to his followers that “did not call for violence,” and afterward he left the stage, informing Meadows he had no intention to head to the Capitol himself. When moments earlier he had told his loyalists that he would march with them toward Congress, Trump “had been speaking metaphorically.” (According to testimony provided to the House January 6 committee, Trump was intent on leading the throng and even got into a physical altercation with a Secret Service agent who would not allow him to do so.) Meadows shares not a single detail about his or Trump’s actions—or inaction—during the ensuing riot. 

Meadows was peddling disinformation. His book says nothing about Trump’s multiple efforts after Election Day to overturn the results. Missing from these pages: Trump pressuring Georgia election officials to “find” him enough votes to win that state (an effort in which Meadows participated); the fake electors scheme; Trump’s attempt to force the Justice Department to declare the election corrupt; the crazy conspiracy nutters who met with Trump and pushed him to seize voting machines; Trump muscling his vice president to block the certification of Joe Biden’s victory; Trump’s refusal to take steps to quell the January 6 riot; and much more. 

Also missing: any mention of the hundreds of text messages Meadows received from Republican elected officials and conservatives who pled with him to take drastic—and perhaps illegal—steps to undo the election results. 

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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/12/newly-revealed-texts-show-mark-meadows-is-a-liar/
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David Corn: Newly Revealed Texts Show Mark Meadows Is a Liar (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2022 OP
Say it ain't so! Ray Bruns Dec 2022 #1
and he's an idiot jcgoldie Dec 2022 #2
I hope SC Jack Smith is behind the scenes dealing with Meadows' missing texts. ancianita Dec 2022 #3
Mark Meadows, the coup conduit.. agingdem Dec 2022 #4
I suspect there was a lot of plotting that didn't pass through Meadows' phone. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #17
I'm sure he did a little up close and personal agingdem Dec 2022 #22
At least Delphinus Dec 2022 #28
Or think of a door with several hinges Captain Zero Dec 2022 #21
I keep remembering the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson Walleye Dec 2022 #5
And you can bet he relished agingdem Dec 2022 #7
My impression is that he didn't respond to many of those texts. maxsolomon Dec 2022 #9
true but he probably didn't turn over his responses to the committee Walleye Dec 2022 #11
Meadows was on every coup enabler's speed dial.. agingdem Dec 2022 #24
Come on! How do you expect me to even entertain the idea... dchill Dec 2022 #6
To most people there is something inherently wrong with lying. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #8
the ends justify the means (for Republics). maxsolomon Dec 2022 #10
I am of the opinion that the ends never justify the means. That is the basis for ethics Walleye Dec 2022 #12
Well, Ethics are what govern my behavior, but I'm not a Repuke. maxsolomon Dec 2022 #14
If we could just get back to basic ethics we could become civilized again Walleye Dec 2022 #15
It's where they've been coming from since Nixon. Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #29
Right. Like federal grand juries. At least expect that ancianita Dec 2022 #13
well Mark is a lawyer and politician and a republican any questions republianmushroom Dec 2022 #16
I also had a feeling. n/t Harker Dec 2022 #18
What we already know has been proven! Martin Eden Dec 2022 #19
I am shocked, I tell you - shocked! 😜 Firestorm49 Dec 2022 #20
Mark Meadows' new book - that's a collection of lies that I have no interest in reading FakeNoose Dec 2022 #23
Meadows, stone-brained as he is dishonest gratuitous Dec 2022 #25
Shocking! nt Cha Dec 2022 #26
Huh, a Free Dumber doesn't know there's a record of his crimes. Hassler Dec 2022 #27

ancianita

(36,209 posts)
3. I hope SC Jack Smith is behind the scenes dealing with Meadows' missing texts.
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 11:18 AM
Dec 2022

This could be the key to solidifying his indictments against both Meadows and Trump.

agingdem

(7,871 posts)
4. Mark Meadows, the coup conduit..
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 11:20 AM
Dec 2022

a one-man "switchboard"..every facet of the plot to overturn the election went through ol' Mark...he lied...really??

Delphinus

(11,845 posts)
28. At least
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 07:46 PM
Dec 2022

the phone he turned in. Someone the other day reminded us that Cassie Hutchinson said Meadows had two.

Captain Zero

(6,857 posts)
21. Or think of a door with several hinges
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 02:03 PM
Dec 2022

He was definitely one of the hinges to swing the door shut on the peaceful transfer of power.

Walleye

(31,141 posts)
5. I keep remembering the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 11:23 AM
Dec 2022

She tried to get Meadows to talk to Trump during the violence. He said trump doesn’t want to do anything to stop it. Sitting on the couch scrolling through his phone. But what we didn’t know, there is no doubt he was texting with all these people at the time

maxsolomon

(33,449 posts)
9. My impression is that he didn't respond to many of those texts.
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 01:10 PM
Dec 2022

He was essentially getting spammed.

From Hutchinson's testimony, I think he freaked out and "shut down" for long stretches of time that day. Useless as tits on a hog.

Walleye

(31,141 posts)
11. true but he probably didn't turn over his responses to the committee
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 01:13 PM
Dec 2022

He really did look like he was totally flummoxed

dchill

(38,601 posts)
6. Come on! How do you expect me to even entertain the idea...
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 11:26 AM
Dec 2022

...that "Mark Meadows is a liar." The very foundation of all that is accepted truth about the Stolen Election is based around the unimpeachable integrity of the Trump White House!

Come on!

😁

twodogsbarking

(9,904 posts)
8. To most people there is something inherently wrong with lying.
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 01:02 PM
Dec 2022

To others it is just another day. Don't expect otherwise.

maxsolomon

(33,449 posts)
10. the ends justify the means (for Republics).
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 01:13 PM
Dec 2022

Last edited Fri Dec 16, 2022, 01:54 PM - Edit history (1)

most Freedom Caucus boneheads genuinely believe their preposterous conspiracies about diabolical satanic Dems.

when your enemy is so good at lying it looks like they're telling the truth (in general, Dems are), you have to lie to fight back.

Walleye

(31,141 posts)
12. I am of the opinion that the ends never justify the means. That is the basis for ethics
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 01:15 PM
Dec 2022

Oh yeah, ethics, remember that quaint concept

maxsolomon

(33,449 posts)
14. Well, Ethics are what govern my behavior, but I'm not a Repuke.
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 01:19 PM
Dec 2022

That's where they've been coming from ever since Gingrich.

ancianita

(36,209 posts)
13. Right. Like federal grand juries. At least expect that
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 01:15 PM
Dec 2022

after his practice in telling the truth to the GA grand jury, he'll probably have to appear for practice before the DOJ's grand jury.

Martin Eden

(12,882 posts)
19. What we already know has been proven!
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 01:59 PM
Dec 2022

The REAL proof in the pudding is whether this evidence will be used to prove guilt on felony charges on a court of law.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. Meadows, stone-brained as he is dishonest
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 04:50 PM
Dec 2022

His ridiculous claim that the former guy "did not call for violence" has to spring from a profound ignorance of the English language (even the argot employed by his boss). Meadows has to know that there are tapes, and tweets, and endless instances of the former guy exhorting his nitwit brigades to use violence against their enemies, real and perceived.

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