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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's sad how far off the plot RFK Jr has gotten.
What an embarrassment to his father's legacy.
Imagine saying anything Tucker Carlson has done is courageous.
Link to tweet
thomski64
(454 posts)...for the handiwork of the FBI...
Beautiful Disaster
(667 posts)elleng
(130,934 posts)Beautiful Disaster
(667 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)do they do them for ignorance and stupid?
I'm also side-eyeing Cheryl Hines, bc how do you stay married to someone with these beliefs unless you share them? (I struggle when my husband and I can agree on what temp a shared steak should be cooked. Disinformation spreading would not be acceptable to me.)
former9thward
(32,016 posts)Polling shows only a small minority do but even a few is sad.
Beautiful Disaster
(667 posts)I certainly wouldn't amplify him and call him courageous.
former9thward
(32,016 posts)Beautiful Disaster
(667 posts)former9thward
(32,016 posts)Nothing about Tucker or RFK. The only place I have ever seen Tucker or references to him is on DU.
Beautiful Disaster
(667 posts)RFK Jr is amplifying a known bigot and calling him courageous. If you want to align with him, so be it but don't pretend he isn't a quack just like Tucker (and yes, he is - just look at how he continues to vilify Anthony Fauci and vaccines).
former9thward
(32,016 posts)Beautiful Disaster
(667 posts)Just a couple months ago he was on Dr. Drew smearing Anthony Fauci over AIDS and coming dangerously close to COVID denialism. He's a kook - and frankly, his stance on the Warren Commission makes any argument against the report lack any level of credibility because he has zero credibility.
Kid Berwyn
(14,907 posts)Facts curiously missing from American history and any mention of the Warren Commission in corporate media:
Two of its members were directly responsible for the rise of post-war fascism. Allen Dulles, as a top official of the OSS and CIA, incorporated NAZI war criminals into the CIA from its founding. John McCloy, as High Commissioner for Germany, allowed Klaus Barbie, Alfred Krupp, eight members of his board, and who-knows-who-else to escape justice. Of course, Dulles and McCloy also were barons of Wall Street and Beltway Insiders, at the heart of the military industrial complex. We all can see what that means for the United States today.
Background:
The American who let the Nazis rebuild Germany
https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/november-2021/the-american-who-let-the-nazis-rebuild-germany/
CIA and NAZI War Criminals
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm
Kid Berwyn
(14,907 posts)Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his sister Rory Kennedy told Charlie Rose that their father, the Attorney General of the United States, Robert F. Kennedy, believed there was a conspiracy behind the death of his brother, President John F. Kennedy. For the first time in almost 50 years, members of the slain president's family were about their father's thoughts about the assassination.
(ARCHIVE) https://web.archive.org/web/20130114120047/https://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57563645/rfk-jr-dad-believed-warren-commission-shoddy/
The story made news, as it were, for a day or two -- it was on page 8 here in Detroit (try finding it using The Free Press or Detroit News web site search engines) -- and apart from several threads on DU, that's about it as coverage goes. The Charlie Rose interview was part of a program put together by the media and good people in Dallas to celebrate JFK's life.
What bothers me about the media coverage is the constant attack, not on the government's lousy investigation of the assassination and its attendant cover-up, but, rather, the attack on anyone who brings up the subject of conspiracy in the death of the president, even when it's children of attorney general who also was the brother of the slain president.
Check out this condescending piece of opinion from the Dallas Observer:
Not Even Charlie Rose Could Rein in RFK Jr. in Dallas Last Night. Also: Conspiracy Theories!
By Betsy Lewis Sat., Jan. 12 2013 at 11:01 AM
It got weird when he went into a historical lecture about his father's investigation into the JFK assassination. He was speaking about it as if he had been part of it, then cited a book called The Unspeakable by Jim Douglas (sic - actually "JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters" by James Douglass) as being the best book on the subject, then kept referencing things from the book. He was losing the audience, so he burst out, "My father believed that the Warren Report was a shoddy piece of craftsmanship," to the delighted applause of the mostly Baby Boomer audience.
Whenever Charlie Rose would ask about the family, RFK Jr. would evade the question until he heard either delighted Boomer applause or delighted Boomer laughter. One of his responses to a family question was an unrelated story about World War II. A lady behind me who must have recently Netflixed The Iron Lady kept saying, "Here here!" for the benefit of us unfortunate people around her.
Some of the strangest RFK Jr. outbursts with the biggest applause were:
"We're becoming a national security state!" (applause, "Here here!" ) .
"Corporations want profits!" (applause, "Here here!" ) .
"Corporations are great things, but we'd be nuts to let them run our government!" (applause, "Here here!" ) .
"Nationalism in Africa! The end of colonialism!"
At this point, I don't think anyone knew what the hell he was talking about. It was something about the Kennedy family airlifting President Obama's father out of Kenya to begin a new life in America.
RFK Jr.: "Yes."
CONTINUED...
(OLD) http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/mixmaster/2013/01/charlie_rose_live_the_kennedy.php
(ARCHIVED) https://web.archive.org/web/20130115215556/https://blogs.dallasobserver.com/mixmaster/2013/01/charlie_rose_live_the_kennedy.php
Me, I don't believe any of that stuff was "out there." Why writer Betsy Lewis chooses to believe what the media tell her is true I'll guess lies in allegiance to a pay check.
Likewise for the lack of coverage given the story in the national media, where the same few corporations that swore up and down there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, both in 1990 and 2002, now want no part of "conspiracy talk" during the 50th anniversary observance. So far, as far as I'm aware, the Charlie Rose program has not aired.
What's more telling is what didn't get noted in the nation's corrupt mass media at all: The fact that Attorney General and later Senator Robert F. Kennedy also was assassinated. Some think that was a coincidence, because the mass media told them so. One thing's for certain, the questions still surrounding the deaths of two liberal icons doesn't get discussed at all today in our supposedly "free press."
Above is a 2013 OP from DU:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10022416498
The original links above now go to the Internet Archive Waybac.
FTR: I stand with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
Beautiful Disaster
(667 posts)Do you also stand with RFK Jr on his COVID denialism? I wonder how Caroline feels about her cousin using her father's name to align with a fascist and racist like Tucker Carlson?
Kid Berwyn
(14,907 posts)Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is a good Democrat whos done more for the Democratic Party and our country than most people. His family certainly has sacrificed more for this country than most any.
As for standing with Tucker Carlson, nice smear.
Beautiful Disaster
(667 posts)This on the backs of his COVID denialism and attacking Anthony Fauci.
If that's what you consider a good Democrat, maybe you'd be better off joining QAnon because I feel RFK Jr is pretty close to that.
Just a couple months ago, he was on Dr. Drew smearing Fauci about his handling of AIDS and COVID and CDC, while also attacking vaccines.
But you consider that a good Democrat.
Kid Berwyn
(14,907 posts)Heres what RFK, Jr. said his father, the Attorney General, had to say about the Warren Commission Report:
My father believed that the Warren Report was a shoddy piece of craftsmanship.
The important issue is that RFK, Jr. and his sister reported their father -- the president's principal counselor and the nation's chief law enforcement officer -- privately thought a conspiracy was behind the assassination of President Kennedy.
RFK called the Warren Commission report "shoddy workmanship."
Attorney General Kennedy knew about the Ruby-Mafia connections immediately, which is vital when considering the Mafia were hired by Allen Dulles and the CIA during Eisenhower's administration to murder Fidel Castro -- an operation which the CIA failed to istop when ordered to by the president and attorney general.
The 2013 interview with Charlie Rose marked the first time members of the immediate Kennedy family have voiced the attorney general's doubts about the Warren Commission and its lone gunman theory. It never aired and the information has seldom been mentioned on national TV.
Which is why its more important than any knock on whos television show RFK, Jr. appeared.
Beautiful Disaster
(667 posts)RFK Jr is not a good Democrat - he's an embarrassment and a dangerous extremist who is more and more aligning with the QAnon cult. There's nothing good about that.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)has been spreading misinformation for years. The organization that he works with targets minority communities with that misinformation and hurts them. Children's Health Defense puts a lot of anti-vaccine propaganda in zip codes that have a large minority population in many cities, and it looks like an intentional target of a non-white population.
There is nothing in that that says GOOD DEMOCRAT.
He's also made millions off of courting the anti-vaccine population, which has even been reported in sympathetic papers like the NY Post: https://nypost.com/2022/02/02/robert-f-kennedy-jr-anti-vax-crusade-is-making-him-millions/
Kid Berwyn
(14,907 posts)So what if hes wrong. People who know more or different will show hes wrong.
Whats un-democratic is telling him to shut up.
Archae
(46,328 posts)I don't give a shit about his previous work, the fact he is so blatantly stupid regarding vaccines makes him a conspiracy theorist, along the same lines as Alex Jones.
(And RFK Jr. went on Jones' program more than once.)
And now saying Carlson is "courageous?"
Carlson himself says if he's backed into a corner, he'll lie to get out of it.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(7,934 posts)Tickle
(2,521 posts)has the biggest audience of everyone on faux?
I cannot, I'm shocked, have you ever tried to watch that guy? I did a couple of times and I still have nightmares. I don't understand how anyone can watch him. Between his messed up voice to the crap that comes out of his mouth. Jesus save the Kennedy's