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babylonsister

(171,059 posts)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:04 PM Dec 2022

Democrats Call on George Santos to Resign

https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/27/democrats-call-on-george-santos-to-resign/

Democrats Call on George Santos to Resign
December 27, 2022 at 8:53 am EST By Taegan Goddard


Democratic lawmakers are calling for Rep.-elect George Santos (R-NY) to resign from the House seat he won in November, after the Long Island Republican admitted to “résumé embellishment” — dialing up the pressure on GOP leadership to respond, the Washington Post reports.
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Democrats Call on George Santos to Resign (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2022 OP
This guy would be an obvious national security risk if allowed Wingus Dingus Dec 2022 #1
+1 dalton99a Dec 2022 #4
I'm convinced the GOP is all garbage. CaptainTruth Dec 2022 #35
GOP: Garbage On Parade? CaptainTruth Dec 2022 #36
He won't Bettie Dec 2022 #2
Yes we can imagine DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #16
Possible not in this case. But this could be interesting. plimsoll Dec 2022 #25
Keep the weirdos coming gop. rubbersole Dec 2022 #3
He won't though. Initech Dec 2022 #5
Yep moose65 Dec 2022 #8
Believe it or not, Fox wasn't too nice to him SouthernDem4ever Dec 2022 #59
Ha ha, good luck with that. maxsolomon Dec 2022 #6
I'm glad they are at least making it known what they think but it's the Republicans who should be chowder66 Dec 2022 #7
I predict RePUTIcan slime make him the next speaker of the house instead. ffr Dec 2022 #9
Missing the sarcasm tag, right? onenote Dec 2022 #18
Not when it's based more in truth and political history than on opinion. ffr Dec 2022 #49
what's the name for that? NJCher Dec 2022 #61
😅 ffr Dec 2022 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author onenote Dec 2022 #19
Resign? Never. It is a dry and warm indoor "position", with NCjack Dec 2022 #10
Democrats should demand his laptop bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #11
Don't seat him. He isn't constitutionally qualified to hold that office. nt Gore1FL Dec 2022 #12
How so? onenote Dec 2022 #17
He doesn't live in the state he is elected to represent. nt Gore1FL Dec 2022 #34
Link? I've seen reports he may not live in the district, but haven't seen anything about him living onenote Dec 2022 #37
I don't have a link, I remember reading it on DU in the long string of relevations. Gore1FL Dec 2022 #39
You mis-remembered. onenote Dec 2022 #40
That is certainly a possibility. nt Gore1FL Dec 2022 #44
The House can refuse to seat him for what-the-hell-ever they choose. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #46
That's not correct. tritsofme Dec 2022 #47
+1 onenote Dec 2022 #48
A link to the syllabus... Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #53
The decision which of course directly contradicts your assertion that: tritsofme Dec 2022 #54
I wasn't arguing with you; I was acknowledging by way of the link. Thanks. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #55
This is further proof that we Dems need to vet all candidates FakeNoose Dec 2022 #13
Lying isn't a bug for the GOP, it's a feature. James48 Dec 2022 #14
Ew! Why do you have right-winged friends? How can you stand to be around such hatred and ignorance? OMGWTF Dec 2022 #31
It seems to me like the voters of his district should be able to sue him for fraud Uncle Joe Dec 2022 #15
How about obtaining a Federal Office DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #20
We need to find out where he got the $700K to loan his campaign. progressoid Dec 2022 #62
good luck with that republianmushroom Dec 2022 #21
Of course Santos should resign but my guess is that the #Republicans will swear the LIAR in!! riversedge Dec 2022 #22
I think the time to get him was during the election campaign. jalan48 Dec 2022 #23
Good. Put the GOP on defense. Let's make them stick up for their guy. In public. For two years. Midnight Writer Dec 2022 #24
No, let him get sworn in and seated. Hell, let him vote. But, when the investigations... SKKY Dec 2022 #26
Embellishment?? Lied his ass off. TNNurse Dec 2022 #27
He's a grifter, he won't resign. CanonRay Dec 2022 #28
He was financed by a RUSSIAN -- Hello!! OMGWTF Dec 2022 #29
Ultimately, this is trump's fault. Paladin Dec 2022 #30
that would require a certain amount of shame, humility or honor Takket Dec 2022 #32
'Embellishment' is the 'alternative facts' of 2022 Torchlight Dec 2022 #33
Elise Stefanik supported him mgardener Dec 2022 #38
Republicans, in general, think it is perfectly acceptable to lie and steal. nt GoodRaisin Dec 2022 #63
Good.. Keep the Pressure UP Cha Dec 2022 #41
He could be Satan incarnate, as long as he didn't say he was a Democrat Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #42
Good Meowmee Dec 2022 #43
wont mean a thing til repugs demand he resign samnsara Dec 2022 #45
They won't. SouthernDem4ever Dec 2022 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #50
He won't resign yet, BUT BaronChocula Dec 2022 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #52
THIS is a direct result... RevBrotherThomas Dec 2022 #56
Sure thing. I suspect they will follow the lead of what happened to Al Franken (sarcasm) JohnSJ Dec 2022 #57
George Santos is the perfect Republican peggysue2 Dec 2022 #58
I did my best.... don't think it will come to much... ugh secondwind Dec 2022 #64

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
1. This guy would be an obvious national security risk if allowed
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:20 PM
Dec 2022

to serve and have access to classified info. This is the garbage the GOP puts forth now.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
2. He won't
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:21 PM
Dec 2022

because he's a republican.

And we can't even imagine how it would be if he were one of ours because he'd never have made it that far in the process.

DENVERPOPS

(8,817 posts)
16. Yes we can imagine
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:35 PM
Dec 2022

a precious few Dem idiots took out Al Franken, one of ours, WITHIN DAYS, for a PURPORTED petty obscene act...........

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
25. Possible not in this case. But this could be interesting.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:55 PM
Dec 2022

Republican and criminal, OK.
Republican and racist, OK.
Republican and gay, let's find out.

In general we say "It's OK if you're a Republican," but that misses the point. It's not that it's OK, it's that those rules apply to "others." If you're a Republican and do those things it's not hypocrisy, because that's how other people are supposed to behave. Kind of like the old "Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven," bumper stickers. It was almost an admission that they didn't feel required to make an effort.

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
7. I'm glad they are at least making it known what they think but it's the Republicans who should be
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:56 PM
Dec 2022

doing this.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
9. I predict RePUTIcan slime make him the next speaker of the house instead.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:13 PM
Dec 2022

If the guy was a democrat, other democrats would be hounding him to be expelled and Fox Noise would be beating the drum 24/7. But alas, democrats don't have such lying candidates, just boring ethical public servants.

So, I predict the Rs turn his embarrassment into a crowning achievement. It's right out of their playbook; elevate the least worthy to higher positions. Remember U.S. national security advisor Condoleezza Rice on 9/10/2001? In 2005, Republican president G.W. Bush promoted her to Secretary of State! I suppose she was just too brilliant of a mind to waste her talents protecting America from terrorism, it was imperative to promote her.

NJCher

(35,661 posts)
61. what's the name for that?
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 01:28 PM
Dec 2022

has to do with promoting incompetents. Been around for a long time. Ahh, I just remembered:

The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter, which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence": employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another.


https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Peter_principle

We must admit, Santos is a masterful liar. Actually a bit too good for the job of potential republican congressman. Should be a fantasy writer.

At any rate, per george bush, jr., Santos is just making the pie higher.

Response to ffr (Reply #9)

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
10. Resign? Never. It is a dry and warm indoor "position", with
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:14 PM
Dec 2022

soft cushion seats -- and his own office, where he can meet with lobbyists to arrange payoffs and free restaurant meals.

He stays, as long as he pledges fealty to The Speaker of the House.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
11. Democrats should demand his laptop
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:24 PM
Dec 2022

That's the clearinghouse for all the electronics communications fraud involved

onenote

(42,700 posts)
37. Link? I've seen reports he may not live in the district, but haven't seen anything about him living
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:48 PM
Dec 2022

outside New York State.

Gore1FL

(21,130 posts)
39. I don't have a link, I remember reading it on DU in the long string of relevations.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:57 PM
Dec 2022

Perhaps I misremembered. Perhaps it was misreported. I might be right too. I don't care enough to find a link, though.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,332 posts)
46. The House can refuse to seat him for what-the-hell-ever they choose.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 04:39 PM
Dec 2022

Article I: "Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members [ ... ]"

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
47. That's not correct.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 05:16 PM
Dec 2022

Powell v. McCormack limited the ability of Congress to refuse to seat a duly elected member unless they violated the Qualifications of Members Clause.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
48. +1
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 05:18 PM
Dec 2022

The House could expel him after he was seated for reasons beyond the one's that would allow them not to seat him. However, they would need a 2/3 vote (not going to happen) and historically, the House has only expelled members for actions taken during the Congress in which the expulsion vote occurs, not for things done before the member was elected.

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
54. The decision which of course directly contradicts your assertion that:
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 05:54 AM
Dec 2022
The House can refuse to seat him for what-the-hell-ever they choose

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
13. This is further proof that we Dems need to vet all candidates
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:28 PM
Dec 2022

... with oppo research on every Repuke. The weasel party is doing none of their own work any more.

We're the only adults left in the country.

James48

(4,435 posts)
14. Lying isn't a bug for the GOP, it's a feature.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:29 PM
Dec 2022

My right-wing friends are all saying they are fine with lying, if that is what it takes to get elected.

It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

OMGWTF

(3,955 posts)
31. Ew! Why do you have right-winged friends? How can you stand to be around such hatred and ignorance?
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:27 PM
Dec 2022

Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
15. It seems to me like the voters of his district should be able to sue him for fraud
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:30 PM
Dec 2022

Last edited Tue Dec 27, 2022, 05:18 PM - Edit history (1)

Thanks for the thread babylonsister.

DENVERPOPS

(8,817 posts)
20. How about obtaining a Federal Office
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:37 PM
Dec 2022

by corruptly representing himself.......

Maybe, at least, the FTC can nail him for "False and Misleading" representation......

Midnight Writer

(21,753 posts)
24. Good. Put the GOP on defense. Let's make them stick up for their guy. In public. For two years.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:54 PM
Dec 2022

This isn't the kind of thing we can shrug our shoulders at and let slip by.

SKKY

(11,804 posts)
26. No, let him get sworn in and seated. Hell, let him vote. But, when the investigations...
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:58 PM
Dec 2022

...come in on his financial background, and the ensuing criminal charges are levied, it will be obvious who knew and who let this slide through for pure politics.

OMGWTF

(3,955 posts)
29. He was financed by a RUSSIAN -- Hello!!
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:25 PM
Dec 2022

Some may say, "So what, he lied about his resume." He also had a fake charity (ring any bells?) which constitutes wire fraud, which is a crime. Keep it up Dems -- do not let this phony get seated or it'll be near impossible to get him out.

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
30. Ultimately, this is trump's fault.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:26 PM
Dec 2022

trump is the one who took politics into the toilet, such that a little scumbag like Santos would continue to lay claim to political office, with no hint of humiliation on display.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
32. that would require a certain amount of shame, humility or honor
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:31 PM
Dec 2022

characteristics that no one in the gop has. no, he scammed his way into a seat, and he'll cash in on all the benefits of that now. he has two years in a VERY evenly divided house to sell his votes to the highest bidder, and he's going to do just that. A rethug version of Sinema

Torchlight

(3,331 posts)
33. 'Embellishment' is the 'alternative facts' of 2022
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:36 PM
Dec 2022

Since reading and digesting Sagan's 'Baloney Detection Kit' from way back when, right wing politicians have always smelled a bit off to me (but only when they're talking).

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
42. He could be Satan incarnate, as long as he didn't say he was a Democrat
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 03:11 PM
Dec 2022

He'll be okay with the folks that voted for him.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
43. Good
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 03:16 PM
Dec 2022
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Santos#Early_life_and_background

There are so many lies it’s hard to believe.

In December 2022, Santos told the New York Post: "I never claimed to be Jewish ... I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was 'Jew-ish'."[3] In fact, in a campaign position paper sent to Jewish groups, Santos said he was " a proud American Jew" and claimed he had been to Israel multiple times.[11]

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
60. They won't.
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 01:11 PM
Dec 2022

If they didn't get rid of the lying ring-leader trump, they won't bother with Santos either. They like their liars.

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

BaronChocula

(1,550 posts)
51. He won't resign yet, BUT
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 10:35 PM
Dec 2022

at least our Democratic leaders are keeping pressure on with this messaging. Should there be more pressure to promote his national profile as another amoral gopper? YES. But this is a good start.

Response to BaronChocula (Reply #51)

RevBrotherThomas

(838 posts)
56. THIS is a direct result...
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:03 AM
Dec 2022

...of the true damage trump has done.

Santos said he graduated NYU and Baruch - he holds NO advanced degree from any higher learning institution.
Santos said he worked for Citigroup and Goldman Sachs - there is no record of him ever working for either company.
Santos said he considers himself Jewish - he ain't.

He has ADMITTED he lied about all of this. His attitude is "So what? It's just 'resume embellishment."

And there's no legal mechanism to stop him from taking office. None.

JohnSJ

(92,187 posts)
57. Sure thing. I suspect they will follow the lead of what happened to Al Franken (sarcasm)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:22 AM
Dec 2022

The real problem is that where was the opposition campaign from the Democrats exposing this fraud before the election?

Someone dropped the ball


peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
58. George Santos is the perfect Republican
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:30 AM
Dec 2022

Winning is everything and the end justifies the means.

Fictionalizing a resume? Fraud? Making stuff up on the fly?

If the Orange Mob Boss (who Santos reportedly loves) can do it, why can't an aspirational House member do it and do it well enough that he wins what was considered a Democratic seat?

Although the New York State Dems have a lot to answer for in ignoring Santos' fraudulent/ serial lying run, I think the the national Democrats are quite right in spotlighting the man's unfitness for office because from what I've read the GOP knew who and what the man was and is.

They. Did. Not. Care.

George Santos is a poster boy for how Republicans operate. I'd like to see the Dems use barbed ridicule in this case, continuously reminding the public that Santos is an ugly joke and that the electorate has been played for suckers. Again.

Wake Up, America!

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