Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:04 PM
babylonsister (170,219 posts)
Democrats Call on George Santos to Resign
https://politicalwire.com/2022/12/27/democrats-call-on-george-santos-to-resign/
Democrats Call on George Santos to Resign December 27, 2022 at 8:53 am EST By Taegan Goddard Democratic lawmakers are calling for Rep.-elect George Santos (R-NY) to resign from the House seat he won in November, after the Long Island Republican admitted to “résumé embellishment” — dialing up the pressure on GOP leadership to respond, the Washington Post reports.
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babylonsister | Dec 2022 | OP |
Wingus Dingus | Dec 2022 | #1 | |
dalton99a | Dec 2022 | #4 | |
CaptainTruth | Dec 2022 | #35 | |
CaptainTruth | Dec 2022 | #36 | |
Bettie | Dec 2022 | #2 | |
DENVERPOPS | Dec 2022 | #16 | |
plimsoll | Dec 2022 | #25 | |
rubbersole | Dec 2022 | #3 | |
Initech | Dec 2022 | #5 | |
moose65 | Dec 2022 | #8 | |
SouthernDem4ever | Dec 2022 | #59 | |
maxsolomon | Dec 2022 | #6 | |
chowder66 | Dec 2022 | #7 | |
ffr | Dec 2022 | #9 | |
onenote | Dec 2022 | #18 | |
ffr | Dec 2022 | #49 | |
NJCher | Dec 2022 | #61 | |
ffr | Dec 2022 | #65 | |
onenote | Dec 2022 | #19 | |
NCjack | Dec 2022 | #10 | |
bucolic_frolic | Dec 2022 | #11 | |
Gore1FL | Dec 2022 | #12 | |
onenote | Dec 2022 | #17 | |
Gore1FL | Dec 2022 | #34 | |
onenote | Dec 2022 | #37 | |
Gore1FL | Dec 2022 | #39 | |
onenote | Dec 2022 | #40 | |
Gore1FL | Dec 2022 | #44 | |
Hermit-The-Prog | Dec 2022 | #46 | |
tritsofme | Dec 2022 | #47 | |
onenote | Dec 2022 | #48 | |
Hermit-The-Prog | Dec 2022 | #53 | |
tritsofme | Dec 2022 | #54 | |
Hermit-The-Prog | Dec 2022 | #55 | |
FakeNoose | Dec 2022 | #13 | |
James48 | Dec 2022 | #14 | |
OMGWTF | Dec 2022 | #31 | |
Uncle Joe | Dec 2022 | #15 | |
DENVERPOPS | Dec 2022 | #20 | |
progressoid | Dec 2022 | #62 | |
republianmushroom | Dec 2022 | #21 | |
riversedge | Dec 2022 | #22 | |
jalan48 | Dec 2022 | #23 | |
Midnight Writer | Dec 2022 | #24 | |
SKKY | Dec 2022 | #26 | |
TNNurse | Dec 2022 | #27 | |
CanonRay | Dec 2022 | #28 | |
OMGWTF | Dec 2022 | #29 | |
Paladin | Dec 2022 | #30 | |
Takket | Dec 2022 | #32 | |
Torchlight | Dec 2022 | #33 | |
mgardener | Dec 2022 | #38 | |
GoodRaisin | Dec 2022 | #63 | |
Cha | Dec 2022 | #41 | |
Mr. Ected | Dec 2022 | #42 | |
Meowmee | Dec 2022 | #43 | |
samnsara | Dec 2022 | #45 | |
SouthernDem4ever | Dec 2022 | #60 | |
Chin music | Dec 2022 | #50 | |
BaronChocula | Dec 2022 | #51 | |
Chin music | Dec 2022 | #52 | |
RevBrotherThomas | Dec 2022 | #56 | |
JohnSJ | Dec 2022 | #57 | |
peggysue2 | Dec 2022 | #58 | |
secondwind | Dec 2022 | #64 |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:20 PM
Wingus Dingus (7,294 posts)
1. This guy would be an obvious national security risk if allowed
to serve and have access to classified info. This is the garbage the GOP puts forth now.
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Response to Wingus Dingus (Reply #1)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:45 PM
CaptainTruth (5,650 posts)
35. I'm convinced the GOP is all garbage.
Response to Wingus Dingus (Reply #1)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:46 PM
CaptainTruth (5,650 posts)
36. GOP: Garbage On Parade?
Garbage Only People?
Garbage Over Policy? I kinda like that last one. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:21 PM
Bettie (14,742 posts)
2. He won't
because he's a republican.
And we can't even imagine how it would be if he were one of ours because he'd never have made it that far in the process. |
Response to Bettie (Reply #2)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:35 PM
DENVERPOPS (7,597 posts)
16. Yes we can imagine
a precious few Dem idiots took out Al Franken, one of ours, WITHIN DAYS, for a PURPORTED petty obscene act...........
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Response to Bettie (Reply #2)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:55 PM
plimsoll (1,487 posts)
25. Possible not in this case. But this could be interesting.
Republican and criminal, OK.
Republican and racist, OK. Republican and gay, let's find out. In general we say "It's OK if you're a Republican," but that misses the point. It's not that it's OK, it's that those rules apply to "others." If you're a Republican and do those things it's not hypocrisy, because that's how other people are supposed to behave. Kind of like the old "Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven," bumper stickers. It was almost an admission that they didn't feel required to make an effort. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:40 PM
rubbersole (3,871 posts)
3. Keep the weirdos coming gop.
Wouldn't want to ruin your reputation.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:42 PM
Initech (96,352 posts)
5. He won't though.
He'll go on Fox and play the "woe is me, I'm a conservative" card.
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Response to Initech (Reply #5)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:00 PM
moose65 (2,922 posts)
8. Yep
He'll say that "they" are trying to cancel him.
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Response to Initech (Reply #5)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 01:09 PM
SouthernDem4ever (2,542 posts)
59. Believe it or not, Fox wasn't too nice to him
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:53 PM
maxsolomon (30,003 posts)
6. Ha ha, good luck with that.
I think the kid has GQP Leadership written all over him.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:56 PM
chowder66 (7,959 posts)
7. I'm glad they are at least making it known what they think but it's the Republicans who should be
doing this.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:13 PM
ffr (21,992 posts)
9. I predict RePUTIcan slime make him the next speaker of the house instead.
If the guy was a democrat, other democrats would be hounding him to be expelled and Fox Noise would be beating the drum 24/7. But alas, democrats don't have such lying candidates, just boring ethical public servants.
So, I predict the Rs turn his embarrassment into a crowning achievement. It's right out of their playbook; elevate the least worthy to higher positions. Remember U.S. national security advisor Condoleezza Rice on 9/10/2001? In 2005, Republican president G.W. Bush promoted her to Secretary of State! I suppose she was just too brilliant of a mind to waste her talents protecting America from terrorism, it was imperative to promote her. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to ffr (Reply #9)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:37 PM
onenote (39,445 posts)
18. Missing the sarcasm tag, right?
Response to onenote (Reply #18)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 08:41 PM
ffr (21,992 posts)
49. Not when it's based more in truth and political history than on opinion.
Response to ffr (Reply #49)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 01:28 PM
NJCher (32,470 posts)
61. what's the name for that?
has to do with promoting incompetents. Been around for a long time. Ahh, I just remembered:
The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter, which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence": employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Peter_principle We must admit, Santos is a masterful liar. Actually a bit too good for the job of potential republican congressman. Should be a fantasy writer. At any rate, per george bush, jr., Santos is just making the pie higher. |
Response to NJCher (Reply #61)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 08:26 PM
ffr (21,992 posts)
65. 😅
Good read and comment.
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Response to ffr (Reply #9)
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:14 PM
NCjack (10,122 posts)
10. Resign? Never. It is a dry and warm indoor "position", with
soft cushion seats -- and his own office, where he can meet with lobbyists to arrange payoffs and free restaurant meals.
He stays, as long as he pledges fealty to The Speaker of the House. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:24 PM
bucolic_frolic (36,164 posts)
11. Democrats should demand his laptop
That's the clearinghouse for all the electronics communications fraud involved
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:28 PM
Gore1FL (20,537 posts)
12. Don't seat him. He isn't constitutionally qualified to hold that office. nt
Response to Gore1FL (Reply #12)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:36 PM
onenote (39,445 posts)
17. How so?
What makes him constitutionally unqualified?
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Response to onenote (Reply #17)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:43 PM
Gore1FL (20,537 posts)
34. He doesn't live in the state he is elected to represent. nt
Response to Gore1FL (Reply #34)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:48 PM
onenote (39,445 posts)
37. Link? I've seen reports he may not live in the district, but haven't seen anything about him living
outside New York State.
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Response to onenote (Reply #37)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:57 PM
Gore1FL (20,537 posts)
39. I don't have a link, I remember reading it on DU in the long string of relevations.
Perhaps I misremembered. Perhaps it was misreported. I might be right too. I don't care enough to find a link, though.
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Response to Gore1FL (Reply #39)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 03:02 PM
onenote (39,445 posts)
40. You mis-remembered.
Response to onenote (Reply #40)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 04:04 PM
Gore1FL (20,537 posts)
44. That is certainly a possibility. nt
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Response to onenote (Reply #17)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 04:39 PM
Hermit-The-Prog (27,265 posts)
46. The House can refuse to seat him for what-the-hell-ever they choose.
Article I: "Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members [ ... ]"
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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #46)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 05:16 PM
tritsofme (15,786 posts)
47. That's not correct.
Powell v. McCormack limited the ability of Congress to refuse to seat a duly elected member unless they violated the Qualifications of Members Clause.
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Response to tritsofme (Reply #47)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 05:18 PM
onenote (39,445 posts)
48. +1
The House could expel him after he was seated for reasons beyond the one's that would allow them not to seat him. However, they would need a 2/3 vote (not going to happen) and historically, the House has only expelled members for actions taken during the Congress in which the expulsion vote occurs, not for things done before the member was elected.
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Response to tritsofme (Reply #47)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 03:42 AM
Hermit-The-Prog (27,265 posts)
53. A link to the syllabus...
Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #53)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 05:54 AM
tritsofme (15,786 posts)
54. The decision which of course directly contradicts your assertion that:
The House can refuse to seat him for what-the-hell-ever they choose
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Response to tritsofme (Reply #54)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 06:34 AM
Hermit-The-Prog (27,265 posts)
55. I wasn't arguing with you; I was acknowledging by way of the link. Thanks.
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:28 PM
FakeNoose (28,433 posts)
13. This is further proof that we Dems need to vet all candidates
... with oppo research on every Repuke. The weasel party is doing none of their own work any more.
We're the only adults left in the country. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:29 PM
James48 (4,069 posts)
14. Lying isn't a bug for the GOP, it's a feature.
My right-wing friends are all saying they are fine with lying, if that is what it takes to get elected.
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature. |
Response to James48 (Reply #14)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:27 PM
OMGWTF (3,298 posts)
31. Ew! Why do you have right-winged friends? How can you stand to be around such hatred and ignorance?
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:30 PM
Uncle Joe (55,237 posts)
15. It seems to me like the voters of his district should be able to sue him for fraud
Last edited Tue Dec 27, 2022, 05:18 PM - Edit history (1) Thanks for the thread babylonsister.
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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #15)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:37 PM
DENVERPOPS (7,597 posts)
20. How about obtaining a Federal Office
by corruptly representing himself.......
Maybe, at least, the FTC can nail him for "False and Misleading" representation...... |
Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #15)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 03:32 PM
progressoid (47,966 posts)
62. We need to find out where he got the $700K to loan his campaign.
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:44 PM
republianmushroom (5,813 posts)
21. good luck with that
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:52 PM
riversedge (65,456 posts)
22. Of course Santos should resign but my guess is that the #Republicans will swear the LIAR in!!
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:52 PM
jalan48 (13,692 posts)
23. I think the time to get him was during the election campaign.
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:54 PM
Midnight Writer (18,752 posts)
24. Good. Put the GOP on defense. Let's make them stick up for their guy. In public. For two years.
This isn't the kind of thing we can shrug our shoulders at and let slip by.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:58 PM
SKKY (11,080 posts)
26. No, let him get sworn in and seated. Hell, let him vote. But, when the investigations...
...come in on his financial background, and the ensuing criminal charges are levied, it will be obvious who knew and who let this slide through for pure politics.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:21 PM
TNNurse (6,431 posts)
27. Embellishment?? Lied his ass off.
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:23 PM
CanonRay (13,068 posts)
28. He's a grifter, he won't resign.
Unless he's convicted of a crime. Maybe not even then.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:25 PM
OMGWTF (3,298 posts)
29. He was financed by a RUSSIAN -- Hello!!
Some may say, "So what, he lied about his resume." He also had a fake charity (ring any bells?) which constitutes wire fraud, which is a crime. Keep it up Dems -- do not let this phony get seated or it'll be near impossible to get him out.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:26 PM
Paladin (26,592 posts)
30. Ultimately, this is trump's fault.
trump is the one who took politics into the toilet, such that a little scumbag like Santos would continue to lay claim to political office, with no hint of humiliation on display.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:31 PM
Takket (18,776 posts)
32. that would require a certain amount of shame, humility or honor
characteristics that no one in the gop has. no, he scammed his way into a seat, and he'll cash in on all the benefits of that now. he has two years in a VERY evenly divided house to sell his votes to the highest bidder, and he's going to do just that. A rethug version of Sinema
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:36 PM
Torchlight (2,020 posts)
33. 'Embellishment' is the 'alternative facts' of 2022
Since reading and digesting Sagan's 'Baloney Detection Kit' from way back when, right wing politicians have always smelled a bit off to me (but only when they're talking).
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 02:54 PM
mgardener (1,592 posts)
38. Elise Stefanik supported him
She is 100 % OK with liars and conmen.
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Response to mgardener (Reply #38)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 03:38 PM
GoodRaisin (7,983 posts)
63. Republicans, in general, think it is perfectly acceptable to lie and steal. nt
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 03:08 PM
Cha (283,952 posts)
41. Good.. Keep the Pressure UP
.. could be someone real will beat him in 2024.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 03:11 PM
Mr. Ected (9,264 posts)
42. He could be Satan incarnate, as long as he didn't say he was a Democrat
He'll be okay with the folks that voted for him.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 03:16 PM
Meowmee (4,949 posts)
43. Good
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Santos#Early_life_and_background
There are so many lies it’s hard to believe. In December 2022, Santos told the New York Post: "I never claimed to be Jewish ... I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was 'Jew-ish'."[3] In fact, in a campaign position paper sent to Jewish groups, Santos said he was " a proud American Jew" and claimed he had been to Israel multiple times.[11] |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 04:29 PM
samnsara (16,899 posts)
45. wont mean a thing til repugs demand he resign
Response to samnsara (Reply #45)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 01:11 PM
SouthernDem4ever (2,542 posts)
60. They won't.
If they didn't get rid of the lying ring-leader trump, they won't bother with Santos either. They like their liars.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 10:35 PM
BaronChocula (561 posts)
51. He won't resign yet, BUT
at least our Democratic leaders are keeping pressure on with this messaging. Should there be more pressure to promote his national profile as another amoral gopper? YES. But this is a good start.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:03 AM
RevBrotherThomas (787 posts)
56. THIS is a direct result...
...of the true damage trump has done.
Santos said he graduated NYU and Baruch - he holds NO advanced degree from any higher learning institution. Santos said he worked for Citigroup and Goldman Sachs - there is no record of him ever working for either company. Santos said he considers himself Jewish - he ain't. He has ADMITTED he lied about all of this. His attitude is "So what? It's just 'resume embellishment." And there's no legal mechanism to stop him from taking office. None. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:22 AM
JohnSJ (87,302 posts)
57. Sure thing. I suspect they will follow the lead of what happened to Al Franken (sarcasm)
The real problem is that where was the opposition campaign from the Democrats exposing this fraud before the election?
Someone dropped the ball |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:30 AM
peggysue2 (9,770 posts)
58. George Santos is the perfect Republican
Winning is everything and the end justifies the means.
Fictionalizing a resume? Fraud? Making stuff up on the fly? If the Orange Mob Boss (who Santos reportedly loves) can do it, why can't an aspirational House member do it and do it well enough that he wins what was considered a Democratic seat? Although the New York State Dems have a lot to answer for in ignoring Santos' fraudulent/ serial lying run, I think the the national Democrats are quite right in spotlighting the man's unfitness for office because from what I've read the GOP knew who and what the man was and is. They. Did. Not. Care. George Santos is a poster boy for how Republicans operate. I'd like to see the Dems use barbed ridicule in this case, continuously reminding the public that Santos is an ugly joke and that the electorate has been played for suckers. Again. Wake Up, America! |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 03:40 PM
secondwind (16,898 posts)