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On Sunday evening, McCarthy announced on a private conference call that he would give his antagonists one of their top demands: The threshold to trigger a vote ousting a speaker would shrink from half the GOP conference, as had been agreed to by a majority of the members, to five dissatisfied lawmakers. But hours later, a group of nine House conservatives issued a letter saying thats not good enough.
Thats in addition to the five Never Kevin lawmakers who have already declared theyre opposing McCarthy. (Remember: He can lose only four votes if all House members cast votes Tuesday.)
But this morning, we can report that thats not even the worst of it. We caught up Sunday with one of the GOP fence-sitters, a member who has been in the room for these negotiations. And he told us that some of these undecided members wont support McCarthy even if he gives them everything they want.
The problem is people dont trust Kevin McCarthy and a number wont vote for him. Those are just the facts, this lawmaker told us. The list [of demands] that we offered was not for guaranteed support but rather the kinds of things that might move some of his detractors.
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2023/01/02/mccarthy-on-the-brink-00076003
70sEraVet
(3,504 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Speaker Steve Scalise.
McCarthy is willing to sell his soul for that position, and that is what cost him. Even Repubs have to stand for something besides pure power for power only. When he gave them the trigger, it was probably all but done.
Happy new year, DU.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)Scaliest has the experience and the conservative credibility.
McCarthy hasnt got a spine and the Speaker must be strong-willed (i.e., Nancy Pelosi) in order the corral the unwieldy House.
There might be a couple of others in the mix but Scalise has a national profile.
Maeve
(42,282 posts)That went with his spine years ago
jaxexpat
(6,837 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,127 posts)That's who I think as well. At this point, if all of this "drama" is actually truly playing out, Scalise is waiting in the wings and he was never caught on tape dissing their fearless MAGat leader. And if not him, there might be a faction who like copycat moves and might consider Stefanik as faux "window dressing" to attempt to falsely show their *pat pat on the head* support for their zombie women.
Walleye
(31,028 posts)He should open a stand
2naSalit
(86,650 posts)niyad
(113,364 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)Tickle
(2,525 posts)will be speaker of the house. LoL that's the rumor, LoL
It never ends with them
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)become speaker and get rid of the others in succession?
gab13by13
(21,362 posts)Lonestarblue
(10,018 posts)We are in for two years of nonsense hearings and attempts to cut Social Security and Medicare. Two years of wasted time while other issues go unaddressed because Republicans are having a tantrum over conspiracies.
gab13by13
(21,362 posts)and I believe the debt ceiling will need to be raised again around October of this year. If House Magats allow the US to default on our debt, they will have obtained chaos.
peppertree
(21,639 posts)And if it means destroying global faith in the dollar - our greatest economic asset, really - so be it.
They couldn't care less - and in fact are probably already thinking of ways to profit personally (gold; short-selling, etc.).
Eric Cantor reportedly in talks with vulture boss Paul Singer during the last near-default.
Martin68
(22,822 posts)takes a few MAGA Tea-Party die-hards to do to Congress what McConnell did to Obama. With Republicans in the majority, a stalemated House leadership is a good thing.
machoneman
(4,007 posts)republianmushroom
(13,616 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,011 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,356 posts)While Gaetz, Gosar, MT, and BoBo are present, someone should nominate Hillary to be Speaker. Just have the men with butterfly nets and strait jackets standing by to take them away. Might need tranquilizer guns, too.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)but...collateral damage.
live love laugh
(13,118 posts)Or maybe its BECAUSE he made that trip.
Delicious either way.
Silent3
(15,235 posts)...to form a coalition with Democrats. While that coalition would necessarily suck in many ways, it would be a whole lot better for the country than anything Republicans alone will do.
hadEnuf
(2,195 posts)They are simply fascists who need to be rendered unable to cause anymore damage to the country.
Silent3
(15,235 posts)
but perhaps theres a (very!) tiny hope some Republicans who won narrow victories in swing districts might go for such an idea.
For a fair number its a lack of courage and behaving like theres nothing worse in the world than not getting reëlected. They arent all fascists at heart, some are merely ambitious and unprincipled.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)extremist party didn't really care about the morality of the situation, but just used that as an excuse to undermine the ambition of someone they considered too clueless (after he publicly spilled the beans that the real reason for the eternal Benghazi "investigations" was to bring down Clinton's approval ratings), and especially too insufficiently radical (which he has done his best too correct in the intervening years) to be their Speaker.
I love how he used his wife and children as props, like a scene from The Good Wife, when he announced he wasn't running for Speaker last time:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/05/the-forgotten-scandal-that-derailed-mccarthys-speakership.html
Grins
(7,218 posts)He meant to say Republicans
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)But only by swallowing the deal that would allow 5 or 6 GOP House members to call for a vote on his ouster. That will make his reign unstable and (likely) quite short.
There will be ongoing chaos.
Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)I'm sure there will be no more rules about masks on the House floor no matter what happens with Covid. I would imagine the metal detectors will be gone, too. If that happens there will be people open carrying on the house floor. Before the metal detectors I'm sure many were carrying concealed.
markodochartaigh
(1,138 posts)Sorry, Politico, Republicans in disarray is sweet enough for me it doesn't need sugar coating.