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I am still wearing my mask in public because it is the right thing to do
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Elessar Zappa
(14,004 posts)like concerts, plays, opera, etc.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)because the new variants are so contagious and resistant to antibodies from previous infections and from the vaccines.
Though the bivalent vaccines still help to prevent hospitalization and death.
MurrayDelph
(5,299 posts)I still wear a mask in public for three reasons:
1. I don't know if you have it and don't want to get it from you
2. No one can be 100% sure they don't have it and I don't want to give it TO you
3. I don't want anyone assuming I'm a Republican.
walkingman
(7,628 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)republianmushroom
(13,616 posts)KPN
(15,646 posts)electric_blue68
(14,912 posts)Seinan Sensei
(364 posts)Especially number three.
I keep waiting for someone to confront me with anti-mask sentiment, but no one ever has.
Twice someone said something after I already walked several steps past them.
If that's the best they got, then fuck 'em.
Also, you cannot come into my workplace without a mask, so there's that.
I've had people kicked out for not masking-up.
jimfields33
(15,823 posts)Response to jimfields33 (Reply #4)
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jimfields33
(15,823 posts)some nursing homes and some hospitals. That is part of the reason I still wear a mask. I have a parent in a nursing home where cases are up. I also take chemo and other drugs that suppress my immune system.
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Rebl2
(13,523 posts)jimfields33
(15,823 posts)I saw two out of a thousand people with masks. Besides my mask I wear is getting gross after almost three years of wearing it. I have a beautiful dark blue mask and even the strings are browning. At one point, I was going to get a new mask but my neighbor stopped making them. Ive worn this mask almost 1,000 days!
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)jimfields33
(15,823 posts)In fact even stores stopped selling them.
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)not work very well anyway.
You can buy masks on Amazon, at most home improvement stores, drug stores.
If you want some new masks, and would like to PM me your address, I have plenty of masks, and I could send you a few, free of charge.
jimfields33
(15,823 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)Ace Rothstein
(3,163 posts)In the real world the vast majority on the same page as you.
jimfields33
(15,823 posts)Orrex
(63,216 posts)And then complaining that you're done with underwear because yours is gross.
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)Still wearing most of the time but I just giggle whenever someone takes a crap in the middle of one of these look at me virtue show and tell threads. Endlessly entertaining.
liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)I lost my vaccinated/boosted dad from Covid just two months ago. Many people are suffering from long term health issues from their Covid infections.
I don't wear a mask because I want people to "look at me" and think I'm virtuous. That's absurd. I wear a mask because I am immune compromised and diabetic and I saw with my own eyes how Covid can totally destroy a person if it progresses to serious illness, even if they have all their vaccines. I want to avoid getting Covid and a mask is a great way to reduce risk.
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)some of us have. I envy you. It sounds like you didn't suffer the loss of someone that you dearly loved to Covid. Thousands of Americans are still dying every week of Covid.
Disaffected
(4,557 posts)Well said.
Orrex
(63,216 posts)And it's 100% exactly the sentiment that I heard all over western Pennsylvania more or less from day one of the initial attempts at a mask mandate.
Today, the reported daily death count has dropped, but of course accurate counting is discouraged and all but impossible with at-home testing. Masks are a trivial inconvenience and a great idea for everyone except those who don't give a shit about anyone else.
It's disappointing and yet somehow unsurprising that some are so cavalier with other's lives, yet also so condescending and smug about it.
WA-03 Democrat
(3,050 posts)Never had it before. I had to start traveling for business and got really busy. I ditched the masks and regret it. I do not think the vaccines work for the latest variant. I am tried of wearing them but Covid sucks. Ive been down for 2 weeks. Had every shot but wish now that I would have masked. Would it have protected me? Maybe but now all I know is my wife and I are now sick and wish we would have kept masking.
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)I hope both you and your wife feel better very soon.
Rebl2
(13,523 posts)the shot helps keep you out of the hospital, but doesnt keep you from getting it necessarily. Will keep up my masking since I visit a nursing home to see parent.
OldBaldy1701E
(5,134 posts)"Getting a vaccine does not mean you won't get COVID, it just means you wont DIE if you get it." (She was referring to those who seem to think that getting the first vaccine meant that you did not have to wear a mask or even worry about the disease anymore. Stupid to think that the vaccine was a sci-fi cure, but when you have experienced our modern educational model first hand...
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)When you are comparing one thing to another, such as in this case comparing your inconvenience to the potential death of others, you want to use "than" instead of "then".
jimfields33
(15,823 posts)Marcus IM
(2,209 posts)Of course. Screw reasons. We don't need no stinking reasons. We're Americans, dammit. Living in the free-est and greatest most envied country on earth. And THE BEST IS YET TO COME.
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Well over a million dead.
Over a hundred thousand American still dying each year, but we've done our fair share to keep deaths down?
How about the next pandemic-capable disease(s), arriving any time but otherwise a sure thing?
Does this "fair" share cover the next one too?
The MAGA types are liable to start maliciously spreading it out of control before they even know how bad it is, making containment far more difficult than it has been in the past. Just sayin'...
oregonjen
(3,338 posts)You might be done, but there are so many people that are vulnerable.
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jimfields33
(15,823 posts)I have to care about things. You dont?
Disaffected
(4,557 posts)to do with it.
Happy Hoosier
(7,314 posts)If Covid becomes endemic, do we just wear masks forever? The vaccines help protect and drastically reduce severity. The pain in the ass to risk ratio is very high right now IMO. YMMV.
Ace Rothstein
(3,163 posts)Wearing a mask is fine, trying to mandate the wearing of masks is not. There is a reason nobody was running on COVID restrictions during the midterms.
Happy Hoosier
(7,314 posts)A virologist friend of mine agrees. But dont get me wrong I fully support anyone who chooses to wear a mask if they feel the risk to themselves or others is great enough.
Hope22
(1,842 posts)No mask, no going to the hospital when Covid bites them back. My senior family member in KY fell after Thanksgiving. The trip to the hospital found full gurneys in the ER hallways And no beds available upstairs. This person slept two nights IN the ER. On day three she was moved to outpatient recovery area to cue up for a bed upstairs. Day four she actually got a bed and god knows what all she exposed people to as she was parked throughout the hospital. Imagine being in the recovery room after a knee scope with a curtain between you and someone who had been exposed to who knows what after the ER. How many post op people ended up with a virus. The hospitals are still in gridlock and understaffed. We can at least do our best to stay out of them.
Disaffected
(4,557 posts)There are many folks amongst us, due to medical conditions or perhaps children whose parents who are too ignorant to get them vaccinated, who do not derive a great deal of protection from the vaccines. As well, those who are vaccinated and healthy have no guarantees they will not be seriously affected by Covid (either short or long). Also, it is almost certain that new variants will develop and we may become infected before vaccines are available to handle it.
Personally, I don't get what the big deal is with wearing a mask. It's a minor inconvenience compared to the benefit it confers. They also BTW protect against other respiratory diseases such as colds and flu.
Dressing in warm clothing in winter is also an inconvenience but we do it because it makes sense - wearing a mask IMO is not that much different. Help yourself and help others while you are at it....
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)Keeps you from getting cold teeth.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)we can do it
(12,189 posts)Calculating
(2,955 posts)Not doing this my whole life
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)orleans
(34,060 posts)however, and as you know, it's been difficult for ALL of us
and by "all of us" i mean those of us who continue to mask, social distance, use the hand sanitizer that lives in the car the moment we get out of the grocery store, or pump gas, etc.
yes, it is tiresome, bothersome, limiting in activities, limiting socially, a pain in ass (not to mention hot and annoying) when you wear that fucking mask at work.
it sucks actually.
it's been a real adjustment for us
it seems that either so many people have never heard of (or don't give a shit about)
the greater good
that mindset that has fallen by the wayside
obviously
i don't want to get covid
i don't want to unknowingly infect my daughter or granddaughter or anyone else i come in contact with (people i know, or strangers)
i can't imagine knowing/thinking i unintentionally killed someone because i was so over covid, or i had already put in enuf time being careful
i know it's a pain in the ass
i know it sucks...
but really
where is our social conscience ?
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)I'm a juvenile diabetic.
I have hypertension, that 4 different meds can barely control.
I take 16 prescription meds per day, plus 6 to 8 needles per day of two different kinds of insulin.
I have stage 3 chronic kidney disease, knocking on the door of stage 4.
I have an auto-immune skin disease.
My diabetes is so brittle that I get about 2 hours sleep a night, due to my glucose monitor sounding loud alarms for either a high or low glucose.
My brother was killed by this disease. We have the same genes, and he wasn't as sick as I am.
I want to go out, like everyone else does. And I do. But I view unmasked people as flying bullets that I need to dodge. So I wear a ridiculously well-fitted N95 and hope I don't get it, and hope I do not bring it home to my wife, who is also compromised.
My wife works with disabled adults. I hear stories every day about how some of these individuals are ending up on ventilators in spite of being vaxxed.
We both contribute to society. We both work our asses off, in spite of our illnesses.
When I hear people complaining about a mask, I think about the people of Ukraine, who literally have to walk TO ANOTHER COUNTRY with their clothes on their back, along with their children.
I've been messed with twice about wearing a mask, and I slapped them down verbally quickly. I get looks every time I go out with a mask. I get smirks.
When people say "I'm done", I think "I'm so done that I fantasize about someone getting physical with me over my mask, so I can fucking throttle them".
Yes, a mask is not pleasant. But there are worse things. I view unmasked people as I would someone who is trying to kill me. I view people saying "I'm done" as being weak, and uncaring towards others.
I have a lot of living left to do in spite of my health problems, and no son of a bitch is going to take that away from me. Sorry for the language, but I'm expressing exactly how I feel.
liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)uncaring person who is constantly trying to kill me. It's a terrible thing. I can't believe there are so many people that have no compassion for others.
I lost my dad to Covid 2 months ago because of these anti-mask plague spreaders. I feel like he was murdered.
Even if someone is healthy and feels they will have a good outcome and avoid long Covid, surely they must have immune compromised and elderly people in their lives. Would they want to see them die in such a horrible way? And Covid is a horribly painful death. I will never be able to get the images of my father suffering so much in his final weeks.
Rather like Trump revealing the fundamentally racist, hateful nature of Republican voters, the COVID pandemic has revealed society at large as selfish and lacking in basic empathy.
liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)selfish people with no empathy. It's hard to come to grips with the realization that so many people are so lacking in compassion.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)I have also re-calibrated my general notion of what sort of behavior can be expected of people in general, and it has little to do with professed ideals.
electric_blue68
(14,912 posts)My folks are gone. Sad as that is but they'd have been very early centennials so they'd probably been gone anyway - though they have long life genes (early-mid 90's).
At least I don't have to worry about them catching it.
Good luck to you!
Orrex
(63,216 posts)I know a survivor of pediatric cancer whose immune system is shot through absolutely no fault of her own.
Every time I hear someone pissing and moaning about the intolerable burden of masks, I wonder if they truly don't know how many people they put at risk simply by refusing to take minimal steps of consideration or caution.
I hope that they're simply ignorant rather than blindly selfish or deliberately cruel.
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)lack of knowledge, but my gut feel is that many (most?) anti-maskers have no problem expressing their disdain for people who mask.
I don't know though, all of this is based on my observations only, which don't really mean much.
I do not judge ignorance...I'm ignorant of a million different things. It's the people who don't even try to understand the plight of the chronically ill that make me screw myself into the ceiling.
electric_blue68
(14,912 posts)I want to give you Kudos for your embrace of enjoying life the best you can despite all your health issues!
I hope some will ease up, stabilize etc.
(my mom got ill with severe asthma when I was about
5 1/2 yrs old improved some, then quite more 10+ yrs later but we always had to be careful not to give her our occasional colds.)
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)To be honest, I'm not doing very well. I've had severe diarrhea for about 3 months. I was scheduled for both an endoscopy and a colonoscopy for tomorrow, but it was canceled because I ended up in the ER at midnight a couple of weeks ago with diverticulitis, and you can't have those procedures done until at least 6 weeks after a diverticulitis diagnosis.
So I just keep telling myself that there are worse things...and it's true...there are a million worse things, and I have it good compared to a lot of people.
But that doesn't mean that I'm not a miserable SOB right now.
electric_blue68
(14,912 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)Are your parents still alive?
orleans
(34,060 posts)keep taking such good care.
i will too.
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)and please do take care.
niyad
(113,347 posts)I continue to wear that f'n mask. For you and your wife, and everyone with whom I come in contact. (although. . .there are one or two. . .). It seems like the very least I can do.
I have only had one person actually say anything to me, and it cracked me up. I was pulling up my mask as I was about to enter the grocery store. A woman smirked at me and trilled, "danger. danger. scared Democrats inside." My first instinct was to tell her to f*** off. But I figured she was expecting that. Instead, I just said, "Thank you. That means there are intelligent people in there." And just kept walking, my purse at the ready.
electric_blue68
(14,912 posts)niyad
(113,347 posts)electric_blue68
(14,912 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)And as far as interactions with others during the pandemic, I have a confession...
I take complete joy in embarrassing strangers who even LOOK like they are going to give me shit about my mask. I don't give them any crap for not wearing a mask, they shouldn't be giving me crap for wearing one.
As far an "non-strangers", I've had to tell a few friends "You're not vaxxed, you don't mask, and you hit the bars every night, so don't even think about coming near me until you wise up".
niyad
(113,347 posts)the assholes.
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)Orrex
(63,216 posts)If nothing else, the ongoing COVID pandemic reminds us that people are, at their root, selfish creatures who will fiercely dig in their heels if called upon to do anything that compromises their leisure or comfort.
It's funny how we're lately told that the only valid preventative measures are coincidentally the only one (vaccination) that requires no ongoing consideration or effort by the individual. But if it's even a minimal, trifling inconvenience? Bah! It can't possibly work!
electric_blue68
(14,912 posts)After nearly 3 yrs I'm kind of fed up with mask wearing,
and I will still continue to do so to protect myself and others.
Just the way it has to be for as long as it takes. I still have cut my outside, going somewhere activities by 85% - that's what I really am upset about.
I never learned how to drive do it's always Public Transit for which I'm truly grateful for...but it means exposure to So Many people now esp since they ditched me be mask Requirement on buses, not sure about the subways.
I live alone so I can be mask free in my apt. And when there are few people around outside. And I miss the (not when it's really crowded ) hustle & bustle of being out on the streets of NYC - Manhattan, some Brooklyn, and The Bronx.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Which is why so many people are resistant - sometimes violently so - to taking a simple, effective and CHEAP countermeasure when they're out and about. I haven't been confronted yet, but I want to be ready with my response, which I've decided will be, "I'm getting on, and the mask helps me remember to mind my own business."
liberalla
(9,249 posts)I never stopped wearing my mask. I just feel better having it on. When it comes up in conversation, I just say I have no problem wearing a mask. I'm perfectly comfortable having it on my face. Sometimes I can't resist commenting on people who had such a such a problem with it... I don't understand what the big deal is/was. It's simple and comfortable.
judesedit
(4,439 posts)Traildogbob
(8,756 posts)I get away without shaving for a week or more.
IronLionZion
(45,457 posts)I got lots of dirty looks in Florida over Christmas especially at the crowded Orlando airport. Tons of kids and respiratory viruses this winter so good luck.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)In the Orlando airport in November and nobody cared at all.
XanaDUer2
(10,683 posts)We have all shots and boosters. We're often the only ones masked in our 2 stores. Messaging led me to believe that shots meant i didn't need a mask anymore. So, I caught it in a masks-optional doctor's office. Learned my lesson the hard way. Brought it home.
All my other doctors' offices requires masks.
I learned the hard way. Never going inside public places wo a mask on.
to a rheumatologist and the last time I was there, it was mask optional. I really dont get it since many of the patients take drugs that suppress their immune systems. I would not be able to take Paxlovid because of weight requirement and I dont weigh enough.
XanaDUer2
(10,683 posts)This was in August. I don't get it. I was idiotic to believe i no longer needed a mask. I brought it home to my SO , 70. And he had 2 courses of paxlovid. I still worry about him.
My friend says everyone was masked when he was there. So i have no clue what's going on now in that office.
multigraincracker
(32,688 posts)Im so ugly. It helps, now no one stares at me.
LisaM
(27,813 posts)I think it makes a better point. Telling people you're "humble" is pretty much telling them you're not.
Pinback
(12,157 posts)A mask is a tool. Republicans and other selfish people have made masks (or lack thereof) a battle flag.
Alpeduez21
(1,751 posts)Its not my home. I dont go to shows or restaurants.
I wear one cause I dont want to give it or get it and then give it
highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)handful of people doing the same. Disheartening, especially given all the news stories about continued risks and hospitals near capacity.
TeamProg
(6,143 posts)herself while deciding over which fruit and veggies to pick out.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)Humans are inherently gross😁
dawn5651
(604 posts)have been that viral illness was making people sick especially kids....we were sick for 2 weeks and still have the cough once in a while...i have had all of the vaccines for covid that have been available to someone in my age group..5 so far.
OMGWTF
(3,959 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Currently @79% of Americans have been partly to fully (68%) vaccinated.
Vaccines are highly effective at keeping people from dying. YET, 6 out of 10 people of the far lower numbers who now die have been vaccinated. They need further protection. (As of course do the other 40% who still aren't vaccinated.)
In 2020, 0% of the quarter million people who died were vaccinated. Obviously.
Today, with 79% vaccinated, although the numbers of deaths have plunged dramatically, since vaccines can't save everyone, some of those who die will now have been vaccinated, raising that percentage from the 0% vaccinated of 2020 to 60% of a far lower death toll.
Plus, that unfortunate 60% tends to be both vaccinated and higher risk. There are other reasons too.
ZonkerHarris
(24,229 posts)Roc2020
(1,616 posts)I always have one close by in the car or my pocket. And if the place looks shoulder to shoulder crowded, I don't hesitate to put it on
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)because the new variants are so contagious, and evade antibodies of previous infections and the vaccines.
The only glimmer of hope was that the bivalent vaccines still reduce the risk of hospitalization and death.
liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)doesn't have to be shoulder to shoulder crowded for you to be at risk. My dad died of Covid 2 months ago and it's a horrible way to die.
sorcrow
(418 posts)In addition, if I pull up my mask and pull down my hat, most of my wrinkles are covered.
Best regards,
Sorghum Crow
Ace Rothstein
(3,163 posts)I had to have a MRI and masks were required at the facility.
GB_RN
(2,356 posts)Not just for myself, but for my elderly parents (especially my mom whos immunocompromised) and everyone else I dont know about. Its selfish not to.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Indoors? Depends.
Not at work - everyone has to be vaccinated in the office, and we have to affirm our health status every day. Is that a non-zero risk? No, but I am comfortable with it, and it's been working for >18 months.
Groceries and other retail settings, yes. Always have. Although, since I just had Covid (Xmas Party in early December), I'm not contagious and I have temporary immunity.
Really, there needs to be a distinction made in posts like this - outdoor transmission is basically non-existent.
GoodRaisin
(8,924 posts)Sometimes it feels all alone in doing so, but will continue just the same. Im all vaxed up too. Nobody needs to worry about getting sick from me.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)Sky Jewels
(7,113 posts)and I like that feeling.
indigovalley
(113 posts)I am one of two teachers at my school who still wears a mask at work. I have Lupus so I don't need long COVID on top of it if I can help it. So the mask lessens the chance of me getting COVID. I know its not 100% protection but given that I am in large classes where students are often actively sick it wouldn't make sense to go completely without any protection at all for myself. I have a serious autoimmune disorder.. It amazes me that some people don't understand that and think I'm just scared of being sick or have a political agenda of some kind..
Also, the mask helps prevent me spreading COVID to students. If I were to come down with COVID, and since I work one on one in the classroom (special ed teacher) I could easily spread the virus to students. I wouldn't want to do that, particularly when there are also students I am in contact with who also have significant medical disorders. Its not a big deal to wear a mask in class--it really isn't
I also wear my mask in the cab I take to work and also in stores. I'm one of the few. Even my family doesn't want to hear about COVID anymore. They think I don't need a mask as I've been vaccinated. They think I'm odd for doing so.
My students actually get it. I was asked why I wear a mask at school and I told them I wear it for medical reasons to protect myself and they don't have a problem with it at all.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)to have proper air circulation?
My husband is a teacher. He keeps the window in his classroom open all year around to get air circulation, and he has a little store bought air purifier that I purchased for him to sit in his room. It was about $100. (Not cheap, but worth it.) He also has a small fan blowing on the other side of the room.
He stopped masking this year. (Had covid over the summer, so felt like it was low risk at the beginning of the year and felt like it was much easier to teach all day without the mask on. So he really considered how to get the air circulation going in the room.)
Even if you continue to wear your mask bc it's at your comfort level, there are other ways you can make the room safer for yourself and your students in addition to daily masking.
Good luck. Not easy teaching these days.
DBoon
(22,369 posts)I still mask when indoors or crowds.
It is a minor inconvenience. The only problem I have is when I forget a mask at home.
In addition to preventing Covid, it also reduces the risk from other respiratory viruses. I've also found it greatly reduces allergies.
It does not hinder breathing or speaking distinctly. The only time I've needed to remove the mask to breathe is during very vigorous exercise.
It is no more objectionable than any other common sanitary practice, such as washing your hands or covering your mouth while sneezing.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)school then dancing/basketball with it on after school. It's tough to run around and be a kid with a mask on all day. So she doesn't. Her quality of life matters.
I am happy to put mine on when traveling on the subway or running into crowded stores. That's super easy. I work from home, so I don't have to wear it most of the day, anyhow. Wearing a mask in short bursts is much easier than talking all day with one on.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Meowmee
(5,164 posts)To protect myself, it will do that, my family and everyone else and to help stop new variants etc.- it has nothing to do with humility etc.It is an important component of protecting yourself and others, along with vaccination and sd.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)Allergies are less nasty
And the flu does not infect you so easily.
And if you get the flu you dont spread it as easily to others.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)yes INDEED
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)I see so many who are still missing the point.
Where wearing a well fit N95 may protect yourself, the main idea of mass mask wear is limiting the pathogen count in enclosed public spaces.
TFG did immeasurable damage with his "I'm not gonna do it" defiance .
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)She has no immune system, so I don't go out anywhere without my mask. Usually doubled.
ificandream
(9,373 posts)I've had COVID (since recovered), and it's not something I want again. i certainly don't want to spread it if it have it now. I'm also over 70, so I'm in the risk group. Finally, I also see it as a political statement to Repughs. Fuck you, assholes. I'm wearing this whether you like it or not. Actually, I hope you don't.
Native
(5,942 posts)Initially it was because I had a cold and someone we visited over Christmas tested positive for Covid. Just as i was about to go maskless again, I learned that our hospitals are at capacity. We have 3 good sized hospitals, and not a single bed was available when my neighbor needed one yesterday. She had to wait in the ER for 5 hours before one became available. Also reading about the NHS situation kinda freaks me out. That said, I'll still be chancing it at the gym because that's one thing I can't do with a mask.