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icymist

(15,888 posts)
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 06:24 PM Jan 2023

Could retaliation be the reason Republicans want to retain Jan 6 Committee documents?

Bennie G. Thompson and Liz Cheney are trying to protect witnesses that have testified to the Committee by getting the documents put into the National Archives. This is evident in a letter to
Mr. Richard A. Sauber, Special Counsel to the President dated December 30, 2022:

As of next week when the Committee dissolves, the Committee will no longer exercise control over this material, and thus cannot ensure enforcement of the commitment to maintain the confidentiality of the identity of the witnesses. Pursuant to long-standing House rules, the official records of the Committee will be archived and pass into the control of the National Archives. We fully share [...] concern for the safety, security, and reputations of
our witnesses.

https://january6th.house.gov/sites/democrats.january6th.house.gov/files/2022-12-30.BGT%20Letter%20to%20WH%20Richard%20Sauber%20%28002%29_Redacted.pdf

So the Republicans want these documents.
https://democraticunderground.com/10143014010
I wouldn't put it past some of these people to want to have retaliation on their 'To Do' list. It's what the enemies of America would do. It's what the Mob would do. It's what Putin would do.
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Could retaliation be the reason Republicans want to retain Jan 6 Committee documents? (Original Post) icymist Jan 2023 OP
DAMN! elleng Jan 2023 #1
Of course. Retaliation is now their entire motivation. Ocelot II Jan 2023 #2
Trump DENVERPOPS Jan 2023 #16
That's why Traitor Tot ran for president in the first place -- OMGWTF Jan 2023 #26
Wholeheartedly agree. And Drumpfs 2024 "campaign has already been acknowledged as the "Revenge Tour" Evolve Dammit Jan 2023 #18
Some folks will get the Paul Pelosi treatment if the files aren't secured. Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2023 #3
I sure hope not. icymist Jan 2023 #6
In the modern age, yes. OldBaldy1701E Jan 2023 #11
Absolutely IMO. That's their typical modus operandi! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2023 #4
Making witnesses afraid at worst or highly reluctant at best,... magicarpet Jan 2023 #5
I see that happening as well. icymist Jan 2023 #7
They are going to taint every witness's testimony to sabotage every potential prosecution. RockRaven Jan 2023 #8
I found that Thompson and Cheney are quite clear in this letter. icymist Jan 2023 #10
+10000 kacekwl Jan 2023 #12
Yes! Contaminate the witness pool to head-off the DOJ's prosecutions. Call it what it is: machoneman Jan 2023 #24
Wouldn't put it past them. paleotn Jan 2023 #9
Rumor has it that markodochartaigh Jan 2023 #13
Not sure that is just a rumor. They were arrested after the Classified info was turned over. DOJ? Evolve Dammit Jan 2023 #21
True, I could have picked a better word than rumor. markodochartaigh Jan 2023 #22
Thom is excellent Evolve Dammit Jan 2023 #39
It wasn't just a rumor DENVERPOPS Jan 2023 #40
Then the SOB needs to be indicted. It is so over the top that it warrants prosecution. Evolve Dammit Jan 2023 #41
Probably more interested in burying them for the coverup... Wounded Bear Jan 2023 #14
They'll do what TFG did with them. live love laugh Jan 2023 #15
They want all those records for use madamesilverspurs Jan 2023 #17
You know if won't be for something chivalrous. TheBlackAdder Jan 2023 #19
Send them links to the public documents of Delmette2.0 Jan 2023 #20
I would guess to change history, Like, I may have said that but I didn't mean that. republianmushroom Jan 2023 #23
They were invited to be on the J-6 Committee FakeNoose Jan 2023 #25
Let's face it DownriverDem Jan 2023 #27
There HAS to be some way to redact or keep those names confidential! out of repuke hands! liberalla Jan 2023 #28
Honestly they should have sent them to the national archives a week ago. jimfields33 Jan 2023 #29
Maybe they did. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2023 #35
One must ask: Why did they wait? They knew this was coming. NullTuples Jan 2023 #38
it is always thus bringthePaine Jan 2023 #30
Um, duh. Ya think? SKKY Jan 2023 #31
Ya think? Hekate Jan 2023 #32
Which is why they were ade public. 2naSalit Jan 2023 #33
Republicans (tRump) have a terrible history mishandlind documents. Litigate it. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2023 #34
Kick! burrowowl Jan 2023 #36
No, not just that. Snackshack Jan 2023 #37

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
16. Trump
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 07:13 PM
Jan 2023

made retaliation his entire life's challenge..........The Republican Senators did also, declaring thermonuclear war on Liz Cheney for not being in lockstep with their insurrection and seditious actions..........

OMGWTF

(3,959 posts)
26. That's why Traitor Tot ran for president in the first place --
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 08:18 PM
Jan 2023

because Obama made a joke about him at the Correspondents' Dinner. Revenge is his mantra.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,841 posts)
3. Some folks will get the Paul Pelosi treatment if the files aren't secured.
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 06:34 PM
Jan 2023

Unbelievable we have to worry about a political party acting like a mob street crew.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,134 posts)
11. In the modern age, yes.
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 07:07 PM
Jan 2023

In the political history leading up to the modern age... it was not a worry, it was a reality. The rethugs are truly yearning for the good ole days... it is just that they are not talking about the 1940s... they are talking about the 1840s!

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
5. Making witnesses afraid at worst or highly reluctant at best,...
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 06:39 PM
Jan 2023

.... to say anything against members of the New AmeriKKan Fascist RepubliKKKan't Party. You will be found out,.. you will be exposed,... and you will be made to suffer consequences by our mindless thugs who will come after and hunt down you and your family.

Button your lip,.. or else.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
7. I see that happening as well.
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 06:53 PM
Jan 2023

I'm hoping that some of them will have a moment of true patriotism and uphold the swearing in vows to our country.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
8. They are going to taint every witness's testimony to sabotage every potential prosecution.
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 06:55 PM
Jan 2023

The target isn't revenge. The target is destroying the DOJ's ability to convict anyone of anything. This is why the DOJ's slow pace has been so disastrous. There was a virtual certainty of a two year deadline, and the DOJ refused to act as if that were true.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
10. I found that Thompson and Cheney are quite clear in this letter.
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 07:02 PM
Jan 2023

They want to protect the identities of witnesses.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
24. Yes! Contaminate the witness pool to head-off the DOJ's prosecutions. Call it what it is:
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 08:08 PM
Jan 2023

...witness tampering to the nth degree.

Don't think for a minute that they won't publish b.s. about each one and reveal sensitive personal information. I do hope the DOJ heads them off at the pass and seizes all the J6 material to stop them. If not, ouch!

markodochartaigh

(1,138 posts)
13. Rumor has it that
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 07:12 PM
Jan 2023

Mohammed bone sawman got a lot of intelligence material from Jared Kushner and that allowed the Saudi ruler to know which of his relatives were a threat and to target Khashoggi.

markodochartaigh

(1,138 posts)
22. True, I could have picked a better word than rumor.
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 07:39 PM
Jan 2023

I heard it on Thom Hartmann, and he is famously meticulous with facts.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
40. It wasn't just a rumor
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 02:54 PM
Jan 2023

Jared had a royally screwed up real estate investment, and a massive payment was due of 150 million that he didn't have or didn't want to spend..............

He got on a Gov't jet, along with his secret service detail and flew down to the Saudis head guy, left a briefcase, got back on the plane with his 150 million dollar "loan, investment, or whatever phony name you want to call it", and came directly back to the U.S. to make the payment just days before it was due.

The head of the saudis for some strange reason "disappeared" several members of their family, and several of the higher level staff members that next week.

The Trump's were taking tons of our intel, and selling it for massive amounts of money to the highest bidder. Then the Saudi's made a 2 billion dollar investment to jared's new, non existent investment firm. My Thoughts on that????? The Saudi's would have loved to have gotten our intel, and other countries shared intel, on the Military capabilities, and nuclear capabilities of everyone in a few thousand mile radius of them...........

Oh and of course, everything we had in the way of intel, etc. was probably just given away for free to Putin. That goes without saying...

You gotta believe that our entire intelligence community and our entire Military community were going bezerk when they realized that this was what Trump, Ivanka, Jared, etc etc were doing with our Top Secret information.....especially given our top enemy complete knowledge of OUR military including each and every nuclear weapon, and their location......

AND it wasn't just the Trump Clan, it was almost the entire Republican Senators that were in this up to their eyeballs.....along with who knows how many others in "Trump World"..............

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
25. They were invited to be on the J-6 Committee
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 08:08 PM
Jan 2023

Remember what happened? McCarthy gave everyone the finger.
That was your last chance guys, you blew it! Now it's time to pound sand.



liberalla

(9,249 posts)
28. There HAS to be some way to redact or keep those names confidential! out of repuke hands!
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 08:30 PM
Jan 2023

THERE JUST HAS TO BE!

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
38. One must ask: Why did they wait? They knew this was coming.
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 09:26 PM
Jan 2023

Why did they take it to the very last moment until it was too late?

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
37. No, not just that.
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 09:24 PM
Jan 2023

The GOP is going to comb through every official document they get and probably some non-official documents they make or get I mean…

Don’t think for a second that the the new GOP House Majority is not goin to spend every minute of the next congress not trying to “what about” every fucking thing they feel they have been unjustly subjected to by the out going Democrats. It’s going to be a constant 💩 show of hyperbolic drama from Jordan, Greene, bopeep, Gosar and the rest….and probably some retaliation also as they have already said they would do if given the majority back. The GOP has made many threats over the past 2 yrs about what they will do when they get the majority back or has everyone forgotten this. Boebert & Greene have both been very clear that they would retaliate if given an opportunity…that they now have. I still can’t believe that the majority in the House was lost,… maybe this is what is needed to wake the rest of the country up.

Dems spent the last 2 yrs doing what they could to get Justice for crimes committed but it has to be just horribly dejecting when they see the apathy of the citizenry over what the GOP has done. It’s one thing to disagree with a policy and have debates where mature people eventually find compromise and get some forward progress going on an issue, that’s fine but when you pick up arms against your fellow countrymen simply because of a differing POV you have gone way too far and should no longer be involved in any debate. You should be in a court room defending yourself not getting ready to chair the House Justice Committee especially given the serious allegations from a previous college coaching job.

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