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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 08:10 AM Jan 2023

If there are Not major secret undercover operations taking place, I would be shocked.

Jan 6th was an attempted fascist take over of America. Trump, Bannon, Stone, Flynn, some Republicans in Congress, etc, are fascists.

Bannon, a close ally of Trump has been openly pushing fascism here and around the world, including Brazil. The ex-president of Brazil, a fascist, fled Brazil and is now living in Florida. Are you fucking kidding me. Yesterday there was an attempted fascist take over of Brazil.

When Trump left office he stole secret documents. We don't know what was in those documents. The FBI, CIA do. The fascists in the House are about to start investigations into the FBI, CIA etc. That is insane.

Trump and his band of fascists are not just playing golf in Florida.

I have have telling everyone here for months there are more to the investigations than meets the eye. The FBI, CIA, other National Security agencies most have secret under cover operations in place.

Both Garland and Smith and the CIA may be investigating things we do not know about. Secret operations we don't know about. Both Garland and Smith are not just prosecuting Jan 6th. They are prosecuting the spread of fascism here and around the world. Trump and Bannon have a direct connection to the ex-president of Brazil and of course Russia.

What we have witnessed cannot be ignored by Garland or Smith, the FBI, CIA, the National Security agencies. When the hammer of justice comes down, the shit is really going to hit the fan.

Stay tuned, it is going to be a hell of a ride.

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If there are Not major secret undercover operations taking place, I would be shocked. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Jan 2023 OP
Florida is no accident bucolic_frolic Jan 2023 #1
Bannon should be in prison malaise Jan 2023 #2
In time, a lot of people are going to prison. fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #3
How long have we been hearing this? spinbaby Jan 2023 #8
His sentence was a mere 4 months--of course that was for contempt of congress, and not panader0 Jan 2023 #6
Those were the exact words in my brain Ilsa Jan 2023 #10
Those were the exact words in my brain Ilsa Jan 2023 #11
Oh, I am sure there are more undercover agents in those leftyladyfrommo Jan 2023 #4
Mark my words. fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #5
Sorry but Lucy isn't going to hold the ball this time either. Don't get your hopes up. dem4decades Jan 2023 #7
Some people just don't get it. fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #13
And a convicted Steve Bannon is still not in jail and exporting Fascism. Convicted! Not in jail. dem4decades Jan 2023 #14
He was convicted for contempt. He will go to jail. It's called due process. fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #17
How many Black people are in jail BEFORE trial, never mind after dem4decades Jan 2023 #18
+1000. nt ecstatic Jan 2023 #25
For five months maybe Meowmee Jan 2023 #28
The CIA is not tasked to do domestic surveilmance. brooklynite Jan 2023 #9
They will be helpful in discovering Demanchor Jan 2023 #30
Yet, they do. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #34
Show me the money Blues Heron Jan 2023 #12
We all want indictments now. fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #15
These investigations are much smaller than I can imagine Blues Heron Jan 2023 #16
He could have sold them to the Saudis at a garage sale and the DOJ would still be too polite. dem4decades Jan 2023 #20
You betcha! Autumn Jan 2023 #19
DOJ does not have to wait until they can also prove the jaywalking charge. Chainfire Jan 2023 #21
+1. Trump won't spend a day in jail. dalton99a Jan 2023 #23
Wow. You better inform Garland of this. fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #33
Do you know more than Garland? fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #32
Simple theft of top secret documents, denial of possession, evidence found in the man's desk during Chainfire Jan 2023 #41
Did you see the charges listed on the search warrant? fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #42
And that is the important factor at this time. Chainfire Jan 2023 #43
No it is not. fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #44
We will have to agree to disagree. Chainfire Jan 2023 #45
Can't put emojis in the title Alpeduez21 Jan 2023 #22
I've been tuned in for years. milestogo Jan 2023 #24
I've heard it all before. nancy1942 Jan 2023 #26
People losing hope before the investigations are finished escapes me. fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #27
I wish this was true, but you're ignoring the main problem: agencies are TOTALLY infiltrated. BComplex Jan 2023 #29
Show the proof of what you are saying. Totally infiltrated????? fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #31
It's all over the news AND DU about how many "white nationalists" are in the CIA, FBI, BComplex Jan 2023 #35
Show us where the are corrupting the investigations. I have seen no proof. fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #36
I hope so! Elessar Zappa Jan 2023 #37
Thanks, fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #38
I'm patient. Elessar Zappa Jan 2023 #39
Also, fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #40

spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
8. How long have we been hearing this?
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 09:11 AM
Jan 2023

I’m tired of hearing people will be in prison. I want to see them in prison.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
6. His sentence was a mere 4 months--of course that was for contempt of congress, and not
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 08:54 AM
Jan 2023

conspiracy or worse. And he is still out on appeal.

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)
10. Those were the exact words in my brain
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 09:19 AM
Jan 2023

before I read yours. I'm ready for Bannon to die of liver disease.

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)
11. Those were the exact words in my brain
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 09:20 AM
Jan 2023

before I read yours. I'm ready for Bannon to die of liver disease.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,869 posts)
4. Oh, I am sure there are more undercover agents in those
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 08:33 AM
Jan 2023

groups than members. The FBI is on their trail with all their equipment and those white supremacists are so stupid they are just using their personal phones.

And someone pointed out that these wackos have no central organization to handle supplies and equipment. Each member has their own stuff at their own house.

Kind of how the feds took out the Hell's Angels and other terrorist groups in the '60s. History does repeat itself.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
5. Mark my words.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 08:41 AM
Jan 2023

When Garland and Smith bring their investigations to an end. We and the American people are going to be shocked by what they have found.

The J6 committee did an outstanding job. However the, DOJ, FBI, other security agencies have better tools, more power, to do an even better job than the committee.

I can't even imagine what is going on in the secret document investigation. When the secret documents were recovered it must have set off alarm bells, major alerts, investigations. throughout all of our national security agencies.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
13. Some people just don't get it.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 09:44 AM
Jan 2023

This is bigger than any of us can imagine. What is taking place in the investigations, we can only imagine. We have never seen anything like this in our lifetimes. This is not going away.

What took place on J6, the stolen secret documents is unprecedented. It must be prosecuted.

It is impossible for Garland and Smith to one day say to the American people. We will not prosecute any of the coup plotters because there is not enough evidence, It's impossible. What has happened in the past is irrelevant.

dem4decades

(11,301 posts)
14. And a convicted Steve Bannon is still not in jail and exporting Fascism. Convicted! Not in jail.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 09:49 AM
Jan 2023

And you want me to "get it", I got it.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
17. He was convicted for contempt. He will go to jail. It's called due process.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 10:16 AM
Jan 2023

You are comparing contempt with the attempted over throw of our government?

dem4decades

(11,301 posts)
18. How many Black people are in jail BEFORE trial, never mind after
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 10:28 AM
Jan 2023

Last edited Mon Jan 9, 2023, 11:36 AM - Edit history (1)

Being found guilty? This system is rigged, and when Smith and Garland do nothing, it will be all over but the crying.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
28. For five months maybe
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 11:48 AM
Jan 2023

That is if it ever actually happens…

I hope for the best here but at this point nothing is going to shock me really… except that in the end I have no faith any real consequences will happen…. That nothing will happen after all of this will still be a shock. In fact this all seems like the twilight zone… what has to happen for someone to put a stop to it…how bad does it have to get?

brooklynite

(94,687 posts)
9. The CIA is not tasked to do domestic surveilmance.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 09:13 AM
Jan 2023

And I’m not clear why we need “secret” activists when we have. Department of Justice.

Demanchor

(127 posts)
30. They will be helpful in discovering
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 12:07 PM
Jan 2023

which foreign countries have gained possession of the information and how widespread it got. It may hopefully uncover some new methods and players these people are using to pass information.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
15. We all want indictments now.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 10:02 AM
Jan 2023

The point of my post is these investigations are bigger than we can imagine. All the investigations are still moving forward. None of them have slowed down, as matter of fact they are expanding. That tells us a lot.

If you were in charge of the DOJ or FBI. Would you want to know what Trump and the coup plotters are up to now. Would you like to hear their conversations. They are all targets. Would you want to put in place undercover agents, undercover surveillance on the coup plotters. Would you want to turn one of the coup plotters and have them go undercover for you? Wear a wire. Yes you would.

There is shit going on we don't know about. This is not going to go away with a whimper.

Blues Heron

(5,939 posts)
16. These investigations are much smaller than I can imagine
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 10:07 AM
Jan 2023

Much smaller. My imaginary investigation already has Trump in jail at this point, two YEARS in. I imagined him locked up minutes after they found him with classified documents. This a farce.

Chainfire

(17,601 posts)
21. DOJ does not have to wait until they can also prove the jaywalking charge.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 10:47 AM
Jan 2023

Charging him with the stolen documents would be a nice start, and would not preclude future prosecutions. We are letting the worst American criminal of our history continue to live in his palace and thumb his nose at justice.

What is so complex about being tried for illegal theft and possession of secret documents? How would anyone but Trump have been treated in identical circumstances. The fix is in, and it has always been in. Hope is faith based; I have lost faith. The only justice that Trump will face will be delivered by karma and diet.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
32. Do you know more than Garland?
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 01:08 PM
Jan 2023

What is so complex about an ex-president stealing secret documents, you asked. You got to be kidding.

Chainfire

(17,601 posts)
41. Simple theft of top secret documents, denial of possession, evidence found in the man's desk during
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 01:58 PM
Jan 2023

the execution of a legal search. No, the crime is not complicated. Any other American would have a trial date by now, they would have been incarcerated and interrogated in order to find out who besides the former president had seen the documents.

What is complicated is avoiding prosecuting such and open and shut case while still keeping people hopeful that an indictment is just around the corner, any minute now.....last July, August, September, by Christmas, after Christmas, right after the New Year. I will ask is there any amount of time that will pass before the faithful admit that they have been played for suckers? When will they realize that there is no Santa Claus?

Stay tuned, we will soon see the opening of another investigation into the former president's criminal actions! (that will keep them pacified for a while)

Am I cynical? Damn right.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
42. Did you see the charges listed on the search warrant?
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 02:06 PM
Jan 2023

You should not just look at what has not happened, you should also look what has happened and what is still happening. You are not looking at the complete picture. You are only looking at no one has been indicted yet.

Chainfire

(17,601 posts)
43. And that is the important factor at this time.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 02:12 PM
Jan 2023

Nobody outside of the Justice Department knows what is going on but we can all see what is not happening.

BComplex

(8,059 posts)
29. I wish this was true, but you're ignoring the main problem: agencies are TOTALLY infiltrated.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 11:51 AM
Jan 2023

Don't think for a minute that the fascists in these agencies aren't undermining the investigations, acting as if they're on the right side of the law.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
31. Show the proof of what you are saying. Totally infiltrated?????
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 01:06 PM
Jan 2023

Do you believe Garland would not do something about that if it were true?

BComplex

(8,059 posts)
35. It's all over the news AND DU about how many "white nationalists" are in the CIA, FBI,
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 01:18 PM
Jan 2023

military, law enforcement, etc. And you have surely been reading about how many in the Justice Department supported trump? And how many people trump put in at Homeland Security?

The proof is everywhere.

Elessar Zappa

(14,022 posts)
37. I hope so!
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 01:25 PM
Jan 2023

I remain convinced that the seditionist fascists will pay a price for their crimes. I trust the DOJ and FBI.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
38. Thanks,
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 01:36 PM
Jan 2023

I don't understand why some people can't wait until the investigations are over before saying all is lost. Nothing will happen.

Elessar Zappa

(14,022 posts)
39. I'm patient.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 01:45 PM
Jan 2023

Two things, one is that they have to make sure they get all their ducks in a row because we want a conviction and two, when you shoot at the king, you best not miss!

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
40. Also,
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 01:53 PM
Jan 2023

These are the largest, most sensitive, most complicated investigations in our history. Soon, in Georgia, we are going to get an answer one way or another if the top coup plotters will be indicted. If Georgia indicts, so will Garland.

It always made sense to me Georgia would finish their investigation first. They started their investigation before Garland took office and their investigation was much smaller in scope. Their smaller in scope investigation took two years.

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