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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Tabloids have almost destroyed the U.S. the EU ,and not only Harry and Meghan
How anyone can keep falling for that crap in the UK is no different than the nimrods we have here in the US falling for FOX or its imitators..
A little history here folks.. Rupert Murdoch (born in Australia) inherited a bunch of papers.. bought up the Sun and Times in London.. bought up all kinds of traditional news outlets and magazines, newspapers in the US after he just played in the mud in England. Chicago Tribune, , Wall Street Journal its endless.. Murdoch basically invented the current Tabloid as we know it. In the US just reflect how how much damage Fox and its affiliates have done to us.
So congratulations to Harry and Meghan for standing up... fighting in the courts and getting their side out there..
The thing that Murdoch was so successful at was hiding behind traditional news outlets to spread the kind of Tabloid lies that smear everything now
kimbutgar
(21,177 posts)Murdoch destroyed politics in Australia ( luckily they fought back) The. He took over the news I Great Britain leading to Brexit which has ruined the economy of Great Britain and he is the reason our country is so screwed and lead us to TFG and the toxic republican party.
His tabloids also went after Diana in a harassing way. And I agree, thank you Harry and Meghan for pushing back.
Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,748 posts)The Chicago Tribune is owned by Alden Global Capital, a hedge fund. The acquisition in 2021 resulted in a mass exodus from the newsroom as Alden offered buyouts. https://news.wttw.com/2021/06/22/mass-exodus-chicago-tribune-journalists-accept-buyouts
Alden also sucks, of course.
Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)News Corp owns so many media outlets in the US.. it is just nuts..
DENVERPOPS
(8,844 posts)National Geographic Magazine...........
I remember, before Reagan, when they limited the number of Media outlets that one person could own............
former9thward
(32,065 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,844 posts)I am getting up there in age, but I certainly might have not remembered it correctly.....Did Reagan at least start the repeal of the laws on ownership of media??????? I could make a list of things that HWBush/Cheney did to the middle class, some of those things still popping up from time to time, they were just delayed in happening. Many things they did were irreperable. I can't call it the "Reagan" administration because he was already suffering from Dementia/Alzheimers the day he was "installed" in office. It was truly the "HW/Cheney/etc" administration that was using Reagan as a front man and pawn, while they went to town in the shadows, on their all out mission to eradicate the middle class America we all knew and loved.
Many of those same corrupt politicians, Cheney/Rumsfeld/etc did the exact same thing when they installed W. by corrupting the vote on the 2000 and 2004 elections......("W"s brain was fried from way too much coke and alcohol.) Of course the U.S. Supreme Court intervened in the 2000 election to decide the winner indirectly, In spite of the fact that they had absolutely not a legal leg to stand on or a constitutional right to intervene....... The Repubs did a repeat performance in the 2004 Kerrey election, installing W in Office.
If the Dems had stood up to what was happening in any of the elections, we would be living in a different America Today.
HW and his corrupt crowd would have been nailed for their corrupt and flagrantly gross election behavior, Gore or Kerrey would have been elected, Trump would have been exposed, along with the corrupt Donor money and interference via the NRA and Putin....
And Hillary would have been elected.......And importantly, our USSC would not be totally corrupted, and prejudiced by the three members that were "installed" also.......
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,846 posts)He owned it for about 2-3 years in the 80s. That was what drove Mike Royko to the Trib and Roger Simon to an out of town paper.
Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)rubbersole
(6,721 posts)Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)chaos world wide for the last 50 plus years..
and limbaugh and the rest of the wacko am radio assholes
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,846 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)rainin
(3,011 posts)The royal family is so afraid of bad press on one hand and so eager to partner with them when it serves them, there will never be reconciliation, in my view. The only way for reunification to happen is for the royal family to use their immense power - their voice - to shame the haters. I share Harry's cynicism. It'll never happen
milestogo
(16,829 posts)They have their own PR machine which feeds the tabloids just enough to keep them at a reasonable distance from their senior members. They don't care if individuals get run over in the process - they expect all members of the group to be compliant. Its always been this way. Nothing is going to change until the British public gets fed up with paying for it.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Kaleva
(36,327 posts)According to some here, the only news we in the rural areas have is Fox and RW radio but I and millions of others who live in the boonies are impervious to it
Justice matters.
(6,939 posts)RW hate radio and later FOX NEWS (owned by Murdoch) "saw" how profitable they are and wanted to fill their own pockets the same way.
Kaleva
(36,327 posts)You, me and most everyone here could watch Fox news everyday and that won't turn us into Trump voters because we'll question and fact check everything said on Fox.
Martin68
(22,845 posts)republianmushroom
(13,659 posts)rubbersole
(6,721 posts)Disinformation and slanted perspective is their stock and trade. It's working.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Lawsuits cost especially when one's facing a billionaire.
progressoid
(49,995 posts)Yelling fire in a crowded theater etc.
republianmushroom
(13,659 posts)free speech do you want to live ?
Don't think I would care to live with yours as you probably would like mine.
progressoid
(49,995 posts)Whether you or I like it or not, our views may or may not align with the courts' views.
If you are advocating that you "either have free speech or you don't", then I submit that in the US you don't have an absolute right to free speech. There are limitations imposed by our lawmakers and courts. I'm not saying I agree with it but that's our current system for better or worse.
republianmushroom
(13,659 posts)determining what is or isn't proper.
I'll go with the court
Disagree sometimes, agree most of the time. Yes there has to be some limitations.
Kaleva
(36,327 posts)The 1969 ruling on the Brandenburg v. Ohio case settled that.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/395/444/#:~:text=Ohio%2C%20395%20U.S.%20444%20(1969)&text=A%20state%20may%20not%20forbid,incite%20or%20produce%20such%20action.
progressoid
(49,995 posts)except when the speech "is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action". Isn't this concept the basis for the current civil lawsuit against Trump re: Jan 6th?
Admittedly, my example of Holmes' analogy of yelling fire in a theater isn't ideal. Just trying to point out that this isn't a simple either/or topic. It continues to be litigated.
Kaleva
(36,327 posts)Just that from what I've read , yelling fire in a crowded theater isn't a good analogy .
tritsofme
(17,396 posts)If not for a place like this, I wouldnt even know it was a thing.
Destroyed? Hardly.
jalan48
(13,880 posts)Sympthsical
(9,093 posts)Now that I know what his and William's penises are like, I'm not sure where else there is to go with all that.
People are not obligated to read things. They are not obligated to watch things.
Every single day it's, "The media are the worst thing ever!" Which I heartily agree with. But then ten seconds later . . . "Can you believe this person on TV/in the newspaper/online said this thing that is outragingly outrageous and is an outrage?!"
It's like telling people they should stop drinking while holding a bottle. I mean yeah, but the advice doesn't really land. "No no, I only read/watch the good stuff!" Yes, and daddy's bottle is also for medicinal purposes.
These things endure because people tolerate them. In most instances, people actively participate in it.
If they didn't, it would go away.
OneBro
(1,159 posts)Yellow Journalism is today what it has always been, but now with more political and corporate sponsors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism
KentuckyWoman
(6,690 posts)Humanity does have a big problem.... that so many people consider the swill that passes for "news" to be real. Social media has only made it worse. Good photoshop or whatever they call it now only complicates things. You can't even believe what you see.
It's by design. Fill the media with so much filth that one can barely see the Ida B Wells, Seymour Hersch type news. The goal is to make sure these folks are never seen and if so, not believed.
https://www.pulitzer.org/prize-winners-by-category/206
Saoirse9
(3,681 posts)Don't know how they will do it but I have hope.
Raine
(30,540 posts)for the tabloids to print, it's on him. Maybe Harry should take Pattie Davis' (Reagan) advice and just "keep quiet". 🤔