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I Will Keep My Mistrustful Mouth Shut . . . . FOR NOW.
Irish_Dem
(47,319 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,298 posts)Bettie
(16,120 posts)investigations of Republicans vs. Democrats.
That was really, really fast and I'm betting that a TFG appointee will return a report that is insanely damaging to the President in a week or less.
orleans
(34,072 posts)and now that you said the words "insanely damaging" the first thing i thought of was ... ken starr
Bettie
(16,120 posts)the entire news cycle will be about this and the DOJ will be pressured to indict the sitting president because...um, reasons.
arthritisR_US
(7,291 posts)dem4decades
(11,301 posts)WarGamer
(12,463 posts)not like they haven't done it before.
gab13by13
(21,385 posts)highly classified. So yeah, someone leaked it already.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Even if Biden did nothing wrong the Republicans are going to nuts over this. Imagine what Trump is going to say. Fuck!
W_HAMILTON
(7,871 posts)dem4decades
(11,301 posts)W_HAMILTON
(7,871 posts)...and then immediately alerting the proper authorities and working with them.
It's far from what Trump and his team did, which was refuse to cooperate, obstruct, finally relent and turn some over, and THEN the authorities had to execute a search warrant to search the premises where they uncovered even more withheld classified materials.
If Trump had done what Biden did, he wouldn't even be under investigation right now.
dem4decades
(11,301 posts)Including Garland.
W_HAMILTON
(7,871 posts)dem4decades
(11,301 posts)That one is still ongoing? Or is it just more evidence of Trump being above the law?
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)It doesn't matter if Biden did nothing wrong. Trump and the Republicans are going to use this to spread propaganda. Guess what Trump is going say. I told you everybody does it. I did nothing wrong. Look Biden had classified documents in his desk
Of course this does not compare to what Trump did. It is still very bad news.
W_HAMILTON
(7,871 posts)If it were not this, it would be something else. Hillary's emails. Hunter's laptop. It's all a bunch of bullshit and it's sad to see so-called allies on the left fall for it yet again.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)spread propaganda about his secret document investigation. Trump could say, look I told you everyone does it. Biden had classified documents in his desk and nothing happened. See, I told you this was a political with hunt. I am not saying it will work. I am just saying this is not good news. Why do you think Garland moved so quickly? This will probably turn out to be nothing. I doubt Biden did anything wrong. That won't stop Trump from using it to defend himself.
W_HAMILTON
(7,871 posts)Here's a hint: he's a fucking liar. Add it to the pile of the tens of thousands The Washington Post was tracking.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)I can't wait for that lying traitor to get what's coming.
Bettie
(16,120 posts)He's paid a fine or two, but no actual consequences. For. Anything.
W_HAMILTON
(7,871 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,319 posts)Go after Biden.
So they are doing it and want us rattled.
They are deflecting from their crimes.
Typical move from GOP career criminals.
bdamomma
(63,917 posts)weird timing, isn't it???? What are documents????
Nothing like the boxes of top secret documents that DJT took saying that they were his.
Such bs and a nothing burger. The freaking magats are going to be crazier than they are now.
Trumpdumper
(171 posts)Why is that so many well-meaning DUers have absolutely zero concept about so many matters in the federal judicial process, one of which is that the prosecution doesn't push for indictment UNLESS YOU'RE PRETTY DAMN SURE YOU CAN CONVICT! This ridiculous impatience speaks to the pitchfork-and-torches approach to the unhinged on both sides. (Of course, now I'll be accused of "both-siderism" and an insane lack of perspective on how different these cases are, blah, blah, blah ... )
Silent3
(15,259 posts)...on ANYTHING. Weirdly, however, almost same-day service here. The story hits the news. Garland acts. Spooky, I tell ya.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)I wonder who leaked this? We have been told time and again the DOJ does not leak
Special counsel to the president Richard Sauber said a small number of documents with classified markings were discovered as Bidens personal attorneys were clearing out the offices of the Penn Biden Center, where the president kept an office after he left the vice presidency in 2017 until shortly before he launched his 2020 presidential campaign in 2019. The documents were found on Nov. 2, 2022, in a locked closet in the office, Sauber said.
Sauber said the attorneys immediately alerted the White House Counsels office, who notified the National Archives and Records Administration which took custody of the documents the next day.
Since that discovery, the Presidents personal attorneys have cooperated with the Archives and the Department of Justice in a process to ensure that any Obama-Biden Administration records are appropriately in the possession of the Archives, Sauber said.
A person who is familiar with the matter but not authorized to discuss it publicly said Attorney General Merrick Garland asked U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois John Lausch to review the matter after the Archives referred the issue to the department. John Lausch was appointed to his post by former President Donald Trump. ensure that any Obama-Biden Administration records are appropriately in the possession of the Archives, Sauber said.
bluestarone
(17,020 posts)Of who could review this? (why a TFG judge?)
Cha
(297,517 posts)It's like the fucking Twilight Zone.
W_HAMILTON
(7,871 posts)...to try to appear fair and impartial, even if they don't need to be.
Case in point, if Trump had acted like the Biden team had in regard to their POTENTIALLY classified information, Trump wouldn't even be under investigation right now. How many times did the DOJ and NARA give Trump and his team to give them all their withheld classified information before they even began a serious investigation into him?
Cha
(297,517 posts)"cooperating".. they need to Clear this Up.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-politics-united-states-government-812ef44a5333f6d93423a67a683fa024
W_HAMILTON
(7,871 posts)...so, why is Biden?
Lest we forget it took over a year of bullshit back-and-forth between Trump and NARA and then the DOJ before an official investigation into the matter took place.
dem4decades
(11,301 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,749 posts)Otherwise, the pukes would howl until the end of time about a cover-up.
Cha
(297,517 posts)Spew Endless SPECULATION!
https://apnews.com/article/biden-politics-united-states-government-812ef44a5333f6d93423a67a683fa024
TY, great aunt!
greatauntoftriplets
(175,749 posts)It probably was an oversight, and they've already been returned. The investigator is the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois. Although spanky appointed him, both Senators Duckworth and Durbin favored keeping him in the job.
Cha
(297,517 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,749 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)It's Un-believable.
Cha
(297,517 posts)I'm worth!
whistler162
(11,155 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)I doubt Biden has done anything illegal. These may not be top secret documents. They could be documents that are no longer classified. It won't matter to the Republicans, they will just lie and spread propaganda. Has Trump said anything yet. It's coming.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,400 posts)Mr. Sparkle
(2,940 posts)Garland should resign, his is completely incompetent and they are totally living in his head, rent free.
W_HAMILTON
(7,871 posts)If Garland thinks his DOJ can't finish their investigation into Trump and instead needed a special counsel to do so, why are they investigating Biden? Just have the special counsel investigate these matters as well.
Once again, in trying to come off as non-political, the DOJ is unfairly treating Democrats in a way they haven't -- and won't -- treat Republicans.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,624 posts)that reminds us all of Holly Hunter. Women don't have a "rule book".
Trumpdumper
(171 posts)agingdem
(7,852 posts)the DOJ is not partisan..and, yes, the US attorney Garland assigned to this is a 2017 Trump appointee but he is was not asked to resign when Biden took office..also many of the judges on the various appeals courts that have ruled against Trump's frivolous lawsuits have been Trump appointees..Biden has to get out in front of this..invite reporters to ask questions when he get back..
I much prefer Trump be indicted on sedition/inciting an insurrection rather than the MAL document theft...a coup to overthrow the government of the United States is heinous and unfathomable and Trump has to be held seriously accountable..
Cha
(297,517 posts)Checks.
Marius25
(3,213 posts)tinymontgomery
(2,584 posts)MOMFUDSKI
(5,624 posts)for the next 2 years. Don't allow your shorts to get all knotted up. I believe the '24 elections will pan out just like the last election. A majority of people will be SO disgusted by the insurrectionist party that they will vote them out. We are living in interesting times.
Silent3
(15,259 posts)Why is this moving at that "Law and Order" pace that we are never supposed to expect?
FoxNewsSucks
(10,434 posts)I guess we don't have to be "patient" for a Democrat to be investigated, and probably won't have to be "patient" if there are indictments either, no matter how undeserved.
agingdem
(7,852 posts)I suspect the US attorney assigned to this nothing document thingy has been on it since November...
Cha
(297,517 posts)Silent3
(15,259 posts)...Trump returned only some, stalled some more, and then more months went by, a search was required, then more months went by before a special prosecutor was assigned.
agingdem
(7,852 posts)Garland and the DOJ are running multiple investigations and grand juries...and the Biden docs were discovered, the National Archives was notified, and they were retrieved the next day..no hiding, lying, stalling, no Aileen Cannon, no special master, no multiple delays, appeals...returned..end of story...
Silent3
(15,259 posts)agingdem
(7,852 posts)the DOJ is not finished with Trump's document theft..I would rather they charge the sonofabitch with treason/sedition/inciting an insurrection...Hitler wannabe Trump did his damnedest to overthrow the government of the United States..on a priority list of Trump's multitude of crimes, I'd say a coup is #1...
Silent3
(15,259 posts)If I steal a car, and maybe committed a murder after, you can arrest me and try me for stealing the car while the murder investigation plods along.
Ohio Joe
(21,761 posts)Polybius
(15,467 posts)You know, in order to look "fair."
Kid Berwyn
(14,950 posts)And if the US Attorney is a crook, his staff will out him or her.